Because it's an underdeveloped part of the story. We barely know anything about val, and it makes readers curious. You yourself said val isn't interesting and that's because the author barely writes her, or gives her any depth or growth.
The world building is amazing so I wasn't complaining much, but when u tag something yuri people will start expecting yuri u know
Tbh, the apocalyptic aspect of "only 1% of men are born and we all mistreat them like object" is so unbelievable and unrealistic. Knowing how society and women irl are, the little men left would be protected than mistreated. There has been plenty of old society where there are less men due to the loss of war (China used to send 100,000 men to die in a stupid war), and men were NOT mistreated. It's simply biologically impossible for women to treat men like sexual object where we kill each other to harvest their sperms. I just can't see it happening, so all these evil hypocritical female characters just makes no sense to me, and come across as extremely uninteresting.
Now. A toxic lesbian character are a thing, and woefully unexplored in fiction. So I'm soaking up Valentine's moment in the story, as limited as they are.
Idk if what I'm gonna say is true but I think the plot is really interesting it shows that men are being treated the way women are (not the shelters tho) the story it's self talks alot my racism and sexism but if you are only reading it for the lesbians then it makes sense why u don't see it interesting since we till now barely see any of Val and Jess interactions
It could have been interesting, I'm reading the whole passage through, but it's unsound and implausible if this world exist. It's all doom and gloom with little to no good humanity. Everyone's out for blood. I understand most people wants to compare patriarchy to a fictional matriarchy, but humanity would never turn to trafficking as a normal society. You're free to enjoy the story, I just find it meh.
Trafficking is the norm in many places in the world right now, and idk If I missed smth but trafficking in the Manga is frowned upon and illegal? It may seem like the norm cuz both Mc do it
Okay apart from the personaly preferences, the latest comments here have been pretty interesting, because in my eyes a world without men wouldve actually have been a utopia.
Growing up I have constantly heard news of rapes, female foeticide, honor killings and other horrific crimes against women, so for me, a world where these the perpetrators of patriarchy don't exist in large enough numbers to harm women, I would have activitly choosen to make sure humanity just exists as is with a few men for reproduction. But despite this being a so called utopia, the women in this manhwa still uphold patriarchy, still center themselves around men be trying to "solve" the crisis, or seeking validation from men (like in the case of kitty), and most women are still unempathetic towards the struggles of other women (like in the case of hanna's mom having been raped).
It's interesting to see that classisim and racism still exist even if men don't exist, I wonder why the women (in general) in the manhwa didn't unite over eradicating such issues? Because presently, I see on twitter, women talking about how men are same no matter the country, that they will oppress women in some new flavour across all cultures.
Their biggest issue just seems to be wanting to solve the gender crisis in this manhwa.
Why not focus on other fields restricted for women in our present age like science and technology?
Why hasn't there been any other novel breakthroughs? Why not develop the artificial womb that was mentioned in this manhwa earlier even further so women don't have to bear the burden of bearing male offspring, when sometimes it also happens to be rape like in case of hanna's mom?
Idk, I still keep feeling for a manhwa that's about a world with little men and woman are the dominant sex, they still seem to center themselves around men a lot
I hope they show more anecdotes and perspectives of women in this world and their lives in general, or maybe show how the women who were oppressed by men in the past feel now in a world without their oppressors.
lmao. you made all this up because you can't imagine a world were women act just like men when they have power. There are women who act like the ones depicted in the story and we live in "patriarchy" Women traffic other women, they are part of gangs and they commit sexual violence and murder. You haven't studied ways in which men have been oppressed. It's uncomfortable to you because you think women aren't capable to harm the way men are. Im here to tell you, its not the case. Women and their harm is explained away and dismissed as not as harmful as men. A world with just women will have the same problem we face now. it would just look different. Women are not a monolith.
Oh you're one of those . I never said women are harmless, I'm saying women are not the same as men. Fucking loser.
lmao. and your a fucking loser bio essentialist that think women are not as bad as men by the virtue of being women. You're the fucking loser that erasing real victims of violence perpetuated by women. FUCKING LOSER. You're one of those weird ones that thinks harm is only concentrated in men. Loser. lmao. That's the loser thing to do.
Ignore them they are a troll no woman was in a rape training academy with tens and millions of men, no women raped Gisele pelicot, no women formed an island named after themselves to traffick children and eat them.
Women would have been involved, but they never have done harm in the same capacity men have and its documented.
Lmao. I’m not a troll and we can go there if yall want. You’re highlighting Gisele to show what? That men can rape? News flash women are rapist as well. There was no rape academy. And yall going to act like women aren’t ever coercive and ever drugged their partner ? . Even if that was to ever get to the news, yall would act like she didn’t do it. What’s the argument here? That women haven’t drugged or raped? Lmao.
Lmao. Women harm in society always gets minimised by people like yourself and that other fucking loser. A woman killed 2 of her autistic kids couple months ago? One murders a girl what she thought was dating her boyfriend, another one killed her boyfriend couple weeks ago. What capacity are yall talking about? Lmao. At the height of the British empire, it was a woman at the height of it. Yall precious women owned enslaved Africans. They also voted trump in. And yall want to talk about capacity? Women commit crime by proxy as well.
Y’all’s argument will only ever make sense if women as a group have never committed crime in any capacity as never. Only then can yall argue they don’t have the same capacity. Outside of that , it all bio essentialist arguments which erase women who have been victims of other women violence. Thats the enraging part. Which is part a lot of people are shocked at the depiction of women in this work lmao. Calling me troll for saying women have the same capacity to enact violence. Go and see how violent women are to children. Talking about “capacity”. Be for real.
Can you give me statistics please of the amt of crimes commited by women like rape, creating trafficking islands and etc and compare it to the men who do the same crimes? Thank you
And ignoring the violence women face by men and society due to which they end up taking it out on their children is disingenuous.
No one's shocked at the depiction of evil women. It's the lack of good women who exist in abundance in the real world.
Also u said the academy doesn't exist:
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2026/03/world/expose-rape-assault-online-vis-intl/index.html
Lmao. That article that everyone is misquoting and not centring the women who have been victimised? Lmao. The 62 million was a visit to a porn site. Not to a rape academy. And 62 million visits includes women as well.
Go and read the article and elevate the women voices and stop propagating misinformation. Tf. What the article found is serious in its right without the lie about rape academy that’s been going around,
Who is ignoring violence? It’s u guys with your bio essentialist take that is erasing victims of violence.
Lmao. You want the art to show kind women? But okay with how the men are depicted because women “don’t have the same capacity”? Lmao. So you want them to show women caring?
How quick yall are to justify women atrocious behaviour in society towards children but then act like men who exhibit the same behaviour and attitudes are inherently like that. Jokes.
U still haven't given any sources of women perpetuate harm on the same scale as mentioned. All ur arguments fall flat and seem personal
What an interesting set of questions. Lmao creating tracking islands. A woman facilitated the trafficking of those women. We’ve all seeing the S file where women were offering their kids? There was a pedo case a while back that a women facilitated - she facilitated access to her baby so he can assault the baby boy? What you talking about ? Have you not heard of the case where the sister raped her younger sister alongside her boyfriend?
And on rape… you know what the gag is? Many countries don’t even have rape defined as someone a woman can do.
What you talking about? Your argument is women don’t have the same capacity. And I’ve given you instances were they committed the same harm the men committing to show they definitely had/have the capability. Talking about my arguments fall flat. My argument being women have the same capacity to harm? Lmao. You can’t give me an instance where women as a group never harmed so your argument of capacity is what’s falling flat.
why r people saying they want more couple screen time i feel like the most interesting parts of the story is the plot and characters. all the characters are really interesting (except valentine) but i wish the story was less rushed to flesh them out. like i thought kitty’s reliance on sexual validation to hide insecurity was interesting and the sister brother characters were complex