god, as much as i love ameri as a character, she really have no chemistry with iruma. peak...

honestly they do have chemistry it's just my personal preference to not like big women with tiny ass men

there’s also that but i just really can’t see ameri outweighing clara and azz importance for iruma

clara and azz are just friends to him. He has romantic tension only w ameri

yeah lol it’s pretty much canon given how the author is building ameri’s backstory for iruma but then again doesn’t change the fact that I can’t see her outweighing clara and azz importance for iruma. also don’t people find it weird shipping a big matured looking woman over a tiny man? it’s a fetish atp ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I don’t. She just taller than him and more developed, but they’re around the same age. I don’t find it abnormal at all. This author might just like tall women like megan thee stallion lol. I get it tbh

ofc since they’re teenagers. that’s why i said she looked mature for her age looking like in her 20s but even elizabeth with her height looks like a teenager so while you don’t find it weird then I do particularly so, and it’s not helping she’s almost twice the size of iruma which i’m so bothered and idk how you all see it and decided they look good together. i mean salute to you for finding it romantic but not me

Are we forgetting the whole evil cycle arc, or the end of the harvest festival, or the heart breaker arc??? Or CLARA EVIL CYCLE AND AZZ AZZ?

I get youu!! I can't even fathom their relationship being much more than friends, and the way it is I can see that Sullivan, Opera, Azz-azz, and Clara is the most important to him

lol their relationship will be more than friends tho. The relationship that won’t be more than friends is w clara & azz. Ameri inspired iruma to be better, while clara & azz are growing with him at the same pace. Iruma and Ameri will have a strong relationship w each other. They do suit each other very much. Comparing their relationship w clara & azz is weird bc they have different relationships. Y’all are attempting to degrade iruma & ameri’s relationship, but whether yall like it or not, it’s happening and it does make sense lol.

no one’s degrading their relationship? but it’s also right to say that it’s a very weird ship given their dynamic be it physically or emotionally. sorry but ameri’s action sometimes makes me uncomfy that it feels like a grown woman having some thoughts on a kid given that ameri is just a year or 2 older than him. also i think you have it mixed it up, clara and azz inspired iruma to be better. whereas, iruma was more comfy with ameri for the fact that she knows he is a human. lol without that linking them I wouldn’t even say that ameri has that much of influence on him. but then as you said it’s undeniable that the author is giving ameri all the necessary advances to get close to iruma but no I wouldn’t really say it’s reasonable since their chemistry is literally overruled by the trio

Yes, y'all are degrading their relationship by stating that Ameri's relationship with iruma could not be as strong as azz & clara's relationship when they are two completely different relationships. The definition of degrade is to lessen a value often done by comparing, and that's what y'all are doing. Otherwise, where did Ameri come from? Why is Ameri being mentioned when discussing azz & clara's relationship? The purpose is to degrade. Denying doesn't change the fact.

Also, I do not have it mixed up. Iruma has stated and in their moments it showed multiple times that he wants to catch up to Ameri. I'm not saying that azz & clara hasn't helped give iruma the strength to grow, but it was Ameri who inspired him to get stronger. Azz & Clara are the ones getting strong with him.

It doesn't only go for here, but irl too. Men always want what they can't have, or they know is higher than them. It completely does make sense that he will get with Ameri, as she gives him the challenge. They like to be challenged. Besides, y'all argument was about her looks initially when she's just a tall more developed woman... she still around his age. Anyways, clara & azz have a beautiful friendship with iruma and shouldn't be compared with any other relationship he has. Whether y'all like it or not, he will get with Ameri and that does make sense.

okay if pointing out their weird dynamic is degrading then so be it. also lol it’s not just her looks as a grown woman that’s weird but also how she acts almost like a stalker with her so said affection completely nerfing her strong character. now for the betterment thing, lol i think you have once again have it mixed up. while let’s say that ameri is indeed the catalyst for iruma wanting to be strong but she’s not really the main reason no? ameri challenges him to be strong since she’s strong and the embodiment of strength in school whereas, iruma wants to be strong to protect those dear to him especially his friends and this was pretty emphasized on walter part arc where he was so weak that he was needed to be protected by his friend azz. so while ameri might be the benchmark for him to be strong his ultimate reason was just to not be separated with his dear ones. it has already been emphasized many times on the manga how important azz and clara is for him and even to his development. so i pretty much stand on the fact that ameri’s existence won’t outweigh the trio’s bond.


also aren’t you the one degrading the trio’s relationship by constantly saying they’re just friends? it wouldn’t hurt to acknowledge that azz&clara’s importance is so much more that even on times of crisis they’re literally his first main of concern. i know ur an ameri simp but it’s not cool dude lol. you glaze one while discarding another. altho given the recent development the author made, ameri might or not might not be the main interest but it wouldn’t really change my mind how her relationship with iruma is pretty much forced and pretty much find the trio’s dynamic reasonable. i mean she’s a good character but yeah lol i have no fetish on a grown mature looking woman having thoughts on me but it might be different on men tho ..they’re always peculiar? lol

How is saying they’re just friends degrading…? They’re friends lol. Would it be better for me to say soulmates? Well then, the trio are soulmates . Honestly, you’re putting too much value in how she’s drawn. It shouldn’t be that deep. It’s not like she’s sexually harassing him w her body. It’s your preference though. If you don’t like a grown woman body, oh well. She has it though and she’s his age. Those are the laid out facts. What should matter more is her personality than how she’s drawn. You care too much about how she’s drawn…

wait what?? She doesn’t stalk him… If you wanna talk about obsession, there’s literally clara & azz lol. That’s literally why y’all like them so much and how they’re relationship got like this. Hey, why do you say you love Ameri’s character again? Bc for someone that loves a character, you’re viewing her in a very dislikable way. Is it to seem reasonable to then make a claim that you don’t see her w iruma? If so, then that’s not cool and honestly very immature. It’s a common tactic people use to make their opinions more appealing. Lets not do thaaattt. Just say outright u don’t want her w iruma. No need to compare two completely different relationships to feel better about one.

Also, I never said she is the whole reason he wants to get stronger. He definitely wants to get stronger for azz & clara and everyone that’s precious to him. However, since Ameri is the catalyst to that, the one to initiate him wanting to get stronger, that’s a big impact. That establishes a difference in their relationship to others. All this to say, their relationships are different to be compared. It ain’t pretty nor is it fair to do that.

Actually, all this leads to this question. Why does iruma and ameri’s relationship have to outweigh his relationship w azz & clara? Never mind the big fact that they have two completely different relationships to even be put on the same pedestal, why does it bother y’all so much? If it doesn’t, then that’s okay lol. It doesn’t have to. That doesn’t mean it has any effect towards his relationship w Ameri.

she does acts like a stalker sometimes. and if we talk about obessesion isn't ameri one too? right from the start it has always been her with her one-sided affection and you all eat it up because in that way she becomes cute? and since you might not be reading I do like how she's written as a strong character but I do get irk how she is is paired with a tiny man given she's almost twice in height and when standing together they look like a mother and a kid. lol sorry if i find it weird?? maybe if iruma was designed like sabnock I might actually ship them but they just had to do this weird pairing giving like a pdf but they have to make it legal so they are just a year or 2 apart. and if I may say their first few scenes wasn't really that appalling and helping for the so said dynamic. I DO understand the power gap the author is bridging but is it so wrong for me to be uncomfy on how she acts and she is portrayed? lol. maybe the main reason the trio is much more preferred because for all we know it's a form of sanctuary for iruma and his emotional support. so yeah im not being weird for wanting a teenager to actually have a dynamic with those he has much more chemistry. it's also not helping that japan has a thing for an older women so I can pretty much understand the author's choice but lol i find it weird so sorry?

also when did I ever say I like her for iruma? isn't this whole argument because I find their ship weird and forced whereas you find it romantic? I pretty much stated that while I do like how she is a strong character it's giving OOC sometimes with how she acts. tho i pretty much acknowledge that the author is leaning to them (idontknow how many times ive written this since you seem to act blind) buut then again, i find their ship weird and that's me. sorry im not so baited on the preferred 'waifu' you all call her. now, why does it need that ameri needs to outweigh clara and azz's importance? lol would you prefer a man having someone much more important than his so called love interest even outside of his fam? cause right now, if given a choice clara/azz or ameri, it's giving that iruma would likely choose the former.

Now I feel bad for taller women, they can't be ship to whomever because they are tall and mature looking despite their age

I don’t have a problem with Ameri’s “obsession”. You’re the one that brought an obsession as a problem first. I don’t see her as having an obsession w iruma tho bc she doesn’t cling to his side and has a clear goal for herself. She doesn’t base her whole life on Iruma. That’s what I love about her bc she doesn’t stick to his side like glue as if she’ll die from being cm apart from him, and she challenges him to grow stronger. I love that lol. So, yeah, I have to disagree that she has an “obsession” with him. She’s very much normal and
just a girl in love for the first time. Meanwhile, clara & azz clings to iruma every chance they get lol. So yeah, I don’t see where you’re getting “obsession” from her. Much less complaining about her when azz & clara’s obsession w iruma is 10x more lol. It seems to me that you view Ameri’s expressions negatively bc you’re associating it w how she looks, since u already don’t like how she’s drawn like a mature woman.

Besides that, it’s not like I don’t get how you feel about the way she’s drawn compared to iruma. I was also caught offgaurd when I first started reading it, but I just associated it w the fact that she’s a fox demon and it has minimum care to me as long as her personality is bearable and her age isn’t ridiculous. It’s just a drawing lol. Again, it’s not like she’s acting vulgar.

All this to say, I just think you’re putting too much value into how she’s drawn and it’s weird to compare two completely different relationships to degrade another in order to feel better about one.

PS# ? I think you misread lol. I didn’t say you like her for iruma. I can very much tell you don’t