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Gurl, i'm both this idiots combined, so i can understand both of their sides. But imma hav...

Suck my tortellini April 19, 2026 4:52 pm

Gurl, i'm both this idiots combined, so i can understand both of their sides. But imma have to side a bit more with jaehyuk here, bc im the type who's ready to risk it all for their loved one too. Garam's an overthinker like i am though, but what can u do given his past.

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    pennyinheaven April 20, 2026 1:22 am

    I'm an overthinker but I side with JH. It's one thing to be an overthinker, but another thing to take things for granted and eventually take advantage of another person. I normally side with GR because he makes sense but this time, no.

    cms_maru April 20, 2026 8:58 am
    I'm an overthinker but I side with JH. It's one thing to be an overthinker, but another thing to take things for granted and eventually take advantage of another person. I normally side with GR because he makes... pennyinheaven

    "take advantage" wdym. there's issues on both side. like jh wanting to announce the relationship but never communicating and just springing out in the public. plus let them cool off. Garam knew talking things at that time would only lead to arguments so he decided to take a step back and let things cool off for a while and left a mode of communication he was comfortable with. Jh made really no sense with his ultimatum too. ugh

    pennyinheaven April 20, 2026 9:14 am
    "take advantage" wdym. there's issues on both side. like jh wanting to announce the relationship but never communicating and just springing out in the public. plus let them cool off. Garam knew talking things a... cms_maru

    JH makes sense though. This is not excusing what JH did but him wanting to come out was due to a frustration prior to that incident - GR going off on him on his birthday that JH prepared last minute. JH did everything for GR, yes GR may not agree with all of them but has he showed any appreciation? Aside from sex, has GR done or said anything thanking or appreciating JH?

    Cool off is fine. But why did GR had to leave? Without even telling it personally or letting JH know where? Because someone is willing to negotiate with him but he refuses. JH even knew when to talk about it or not - JH didn't want to argue on his birthday but GR just couldn't get it was inappropriate. Even the next day, JH was understanding enough to not press on but GR just went on his normal day, like nothing happened. No thank you, no sorry.

    JH is showing effort but GR is not. GR thinks JH is just always be there waiting and accommodating him. How is that not taking advantage?

    cms_maru April 20, 2026 10:47 am
    JH makes sense though. This is not excusing what JH did but him wanting to come out was due to a frustration prior to that incident - GR going off on him on his birthday that JH prepared last minute. JH did eve... pennyinheaven

    Nope. That's not taking advantage. You are really understanding of Jh struggles but lack the same values when talking about Garam. The bday incident, Jh was the first one to go off. Sure Garam slapped the rings away and that was a bad things to do but then Jh went on throw the rings away and even kicked the trashcan when Garam was reaching out. Then they had a fight. Sure it was hurtful for Jh but it is not excusing the fact that he acted angrily and violently. The frustration is never an answer. I understand every nuance of wanting to come out but your partner not wanting to but that was something he should have brought up not just sprung up in public. That was a very bad, I mean very very bad thing to do.

    "why did GR had to leave?" because Jh has a habit of exploding and arguing. Do you think Garam can cool off while living under the same roof when the person you argued with is in the same house? telling Jh personally was not an option because Jh is impulsive in his behavior. Everything, the ultimatum, the fight everything will be the same just this time Jh will be the one to leave the house. Do you think Garam would not feel suffocating and uncomfortable in the house he did not pay for or has a name on it?

    You can't argue with me that Jh's anger issues is not a bad thing and every misunderstanding and fight they have, Jh anger issues make things for the worse. You really prove my point. During the birthday, he did not want to argue but he did. Again don't give me that "oh garam did this so jh was justified"

    Again. The things you feel are justified but the actions you take are not really justified and that applies to both of the characters. If it's wrong then it's wrong.

    You say Garam is taking advantage of Jh but isn't Jh also doing the same? isn't he being very entitled too? demanding they come out or he will break up, non-consensually outing Garam and then getting mad at Garam because he did not like it, Garam telling him he felt the rings were too early so he threw them out cause if you don't want to wear it then why keep them, cutting parents off and turning it onto garam saying i did this for you what did you do for me, the apartment.

    About showing appreciation thing. Again that is something you bring up and tell your partner that I am feeling underappreciated. Not bring that up in a fight and get mad at them. Also I feel like readers are being way too impatient. The fight happened last night and they get mad that it is not addressed that morning. Another fight happens and they get mad that it is not resolved immediately. Even though we read this weekly and are in the argument for like a month or more, it's not the same for the characters. Even the most healthy couples take time addressing the problems in the relationship, it is the same even for married couples or couples with kids. same for everyone. so just keep the timelines in mind and learn to be patient.

    pennyinheaven April 20, 2026 11:41 am
    Nope. That's not taking advantage. You are really understanding of Jh struggles but lack the same values when talking about Garam. The bday incident, Jh was the first one to go off. Sure Garam slapped the rings... cms_maru

    JH was patient enough. He didn't want to talk about the parents and what not. When he angrily asked why keep his birthday, GR started inserting stuff they should be talking about some other time. JH tried to ignore but couldn't because GR didn't stop. He didn't even say thank you for preparing it last minute. Jh gave him grace by sleeping outside the room but no hello, he just left.

    Again, JH was indeed impulsive but NOTHING that did not relate or react for Garam. Even when he tried to out him, it was a response because Garam has been ignoring him. Bottomline is appreciate the guy despite not agreeing with him with everything. Garam is not meeting halfway, it's JH who has to reach out every time. JH becoming MORE impulsive is him becoming desperate because GR just won't let up. Worse, he was made to feel they were becoming something but apparently not.

    No way JH is perfect. He is very much flawed but the effort is there. Loud and clear.

    cms_maru April 20, 2026 1:30 pm
    JH was patient enough. He didn't want to talk about the parents and what not. When he angrily asked why keep his birthday, GR started inserting stuff they should be talking about some other time. JH tried to ig... pennyinheaven

    No way you are going to spin Jh's wrong actions and impulsive are due to Garam. He has been like that since the beginning of the relationship. If you are still trying to glaze the efforts but ignore how wrong the efforts are, I will not even try to argue. Even more so when you ignore all of my previous points and continue to insert your justification for the mistakes of the character while admonishing, almost hating on the other.
    Jh's glazers here might even top solo leveling glazers.