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So from the comments I don't think this is the one for me. On the scale of toxic this didn...

Phoenix July 18, 2026 12:38 pm

So from the comments I don't think this is the one for me. On the scale of toxic this didn’t seem that high but some of the spoilers are showing me that it has everything that gets under my skin.

Hoping to one day find a good ass bl where authors actually develop their characters through consequences and realistic actions rather than a set of smooth brained penguins whose only solution to their mental, physical, and emotional afflictions are bumping uglies and conveniently forgetting the rainbow of abuse they have either just gone through or put someone else through.

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    luminal July 18, 2026 4:52 pm

    Damn, u right but I just personaly try to change the facts in my mind to cope with level of toxicity in most of manhwas (this is just sad lol)
    Anyway, if u could recomend sth actually good u can give some titles. Gonna check ur profile too later ig

    Phoenix July 18, 2026 10:01 pm
    Damn, u right but I just personaly try to change the facts in my mind to cope with level of toxicity in most of manhwas (this is just sad lol) Anyway, if u could recomend sth actually good u can give some title... luminal

    I over think way too much to give recs!!

    These are some of my favourite re-reads, I love them either for the plot or characters in terms of development:

    Stalkers Game (one of my faves)
    Hyanghyeon Text
    Monster in the mist
    Murderer Llewellyn's enchanting dinner invitation (had to hunt this one down)
    The Promise
    Swapping
    Hell and High Water
    One step from hell
    Beware of the Full Moon In March
    After I left you

    Fair warning at points the mc or ml does act shakey in the thinking department but overall these are an A in how the stories are fleshed out. In my mind.

    Also kinda fits:

    The Author of ‘Golden Sparkle’ is not toxic but the characters communicate with actual thought behind their words. Sweet stories if you haven’t read and aren’t looking for solely red flags, these are good.

    The Author of ‘A thousand cranes’ writes interesting and pretty fleshed out characters. Found out recently there are novels so Ill be reading those soon as I find them.

    The Author of ‘Blossoms of the white night’ which you might have read but if you haven’t check it out. Everyones pretty obsessed right now. Age could make you uncomfortable so warning there! But most of the other works Ive read by this author have been amazing (theres like two I haven't gotten to.)

    ‘Wish you all the best’ it’s finished but I just started and the arts kind of rough but I was coincidentally recommended it literally two seconds ago so figured Id share. Ive been warned it’s a rough ride, just in case lower your expectations.

    Tbh there are some other titles that come to mind like ‘Speak of The Devil’ or even ‘Sadistic Beauty bl side story’ (two sides of the same spectrum with one being strictly non-violent and the other hell) that do fit the criteria but theres things about each that make me not want to recommend them. Theres points of mental satisfaction due to acknowledgment of bad behaviour only to walk away with a broken heart because it didn't matter in the end!

    Not sure if these fit all of what Im saying. May have lost the plot.

    Hopefully you haven’t read all of these! I tried to chose mostly the more obscure things Ive read, theres plenty of reviews on the super popular ones out there. Also picked out manwha, manga and manhuas for some diversity.

    Phoenix July 18, 2026 10:05 pm
    Damn, u right but I just personaly try to change the facts in my mind to cope with level of toxicity in most of manhwas (this is just sad lol) Anyway, if u could recomend sth actually good u can give some title... luminal

    I didn’t respond to your actual comment-
    I do the same thing babes, the mental gymnastics I pulled to get through some of these bls should qualify for a silver metal at least. Though we all know this is more likely to end with a trip to the fun house.

    The profiles as private as can be but if you can see my lists go there but they are a work in progress to be organised.

    Yuri July 18, 2026 10:37 pm

    They aren't even really toxic, moreso just stupid lol

    luminal July 18, 2026 11:10 pm
    I over think way too much to give recs!! These are some of my favourite re-reads, I love them either for the plot or characters in terms of development:Stalkers Game (one of my faves)Hyanghyeon TextMonster in t... Phoenix

    Oh my God!! U gave me so many!! And with descriptions!! LOVE U FAM Honestly, some of the titles just seems familiar but I didnt read any of these. Sadly my reading prime is far gone bc life but finding ACTUAL GOOD STORY bring just so much happines to me. So u know. I rlly appreaciate the time u put into this one. Its ur fault if im any more sleep deprived now lol

    luminal July 18, 2026 11:12 pm
    I didn’t respond to your actual comment-I do the same thing babes, the mental gymnastics I pulled to get through some of these bls should qualify for a silver metal at least. Though we all know this is more l... Phoenix

    My theory is that we actually didnt escape the Times of ao3 and wattpad... . This mentality carved too deep inside us...

    Phoenix July 19, 2026 6:32 am
    Oh my God!! U gave me so many!! And with descriptions!! LOVE U FAM Honestly, some of the titles just seems familiar but I didnt read any of these. Sadly my reading prime is far gone bc life but finding ACTUAL G... luminal

    You’re so welcome! I want you to have as much info as possible so of course! With reality and adult hood the way it is I get it, finding a good title or even just a decent one has me kicking my feet again.

    If you don’t mind me asking what kind of stories do you prefer? I like a decent plot but Im all for well rounded fleshed out characters.

    Thank you, I tried my best because you seem so sweet! Lol sleep is a concept for adult bl fans.

    Phoenix July 19, 2026 6:34 am
    My theory is that we actually didnt escape the Times of ao3 and wattpad... . This mentality carved too deep inside us... luminal

    Ao3 is in my blood, if I stop I assume Ill simply perish.

    araminta123 July 21, 2026 2:38 pm

    Jun is not forgetting the abuse, basically the story is the same as the novel, but manhwa artist messed it up by drawing chibi and cute panels, the last two chapters are actually jun pretending to be friendly to yohan, reading the novel it should've felt like he's walking on egg shells, the atmosphere should be dark, he did laugh here and there but still it wasn't supposed to be bright and flowery like how the manhwa artist drew him

    luminal July 26, 2026 8:01 am
    I didn’t respond to your actual comment-I do the same thing babes, the mental gymnastics I pulled to get through some of these bls should qualify for a silver metal at least. Though we all know this is more l... Phoenix

    Ooh yes yes!! Good characters can stop u with even a bad story if their motivations seems intresting!! Hmm if i had to choose a genre, Im in love with psychological horror/slice of life mixed with big chunks of comedy (the more absurd, the better). When it comes to characters i like them smart or emotionally intelligent (this way we are saving, like, 30 chapters at least lol).
    I noticed im weak to this trophy of reincarnating mc to another world keeping all their memories, and them using their knowledge in disadvantageous situatuon.. just where did i get it from

    luminal July 26, 2026 8:20 am
    You’re so welcome! I want you to have as much info as possible so of course! With reality and adult hood the way it is I get it, finding a good title or even just a decent one has me kicking my feet again.If ... Phoenix

    I could recommend u my tiny treasure list i have on profile. Its rlly small bc for a 2 years now i dont have energy to emotionally invest myself in stories if they coudnt be taken lightly. But I keep fighting it!!
    Okay but now that ive got an excuse- I think everything On my list would be great for u EXECPT Let Dai. Its a really touchy, dreamy, and so much heavy one, but at the same time start of main couple is just absurd. It starts w rape, and everyone just forgot about this.. but im there for the second couple and doing olimpic gymnastic jumps for first one.

    If u like angst, I could recommend to u MADK. Its rlly toxic, but author shows them in bad light from the start. Action is taking place in demon realm and for how short this one is, worldbuilding is insane here. Story is just sad, but I dont want to say anymore if u decide to give it a try.

    I xould say one million words more about the rest, but its this long about 2 of them lol. Ofc Im just assuming u didnt read sth from there, bc i just dont have enough for u