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HoneyBee July 21, 2026 8:00 pm

Mini rant, if you disagree thats cool. Tell me WHY you disagree cuz I like these discussions.
I hate how a large majority of BL is just a sex driven plot instead of there being a plot but then they just have sex sometimes. Like ooooooo he's cursed... so you have to FUCK HIM to get rid of it! ooooooo he's poor and has debt... so you have to FUCK HIM to pay his debts for him. Thats why I kinda pray that stories like A Lovely Meal just stays a cute vampire story and doesnt become 18+ just because the author feels pressured from fans. It has such a cute wonderful plot and I personally feel like that will change the vibe of it for me (this is all personalllllll dont get ur panties in a knot if you disagree, youre allowed to like smut I think it's just become too excessive to a degree). I feel like a lot of people wont read a story unless theres some form of sex in there and find it to be some sort of flaw if a story is just purely based on an actual plot instead of the point of the plot is to lead to sex.
Dont get me wrong! I think theres a place for these specific stories that are purely sex based. Sometimes ya just gotta read a pornhwa lmao. But I hate reading a story with no smut and the comments are just flooded with "WHEN ARE THEY GONNA FUCK??? COME ON!!!" And then you get an authors note that says "I included smut scenes cuz my publishers thought it would bring in more of an audience." Like I cant imagine how sad it has to be for an author/artist to put their heart and soul into a story only for it to be met with "Oh thats cool but like you need people to fuck in this or less people are gonna read it."
All in all, my opinion means nothing and I'm just talking into a void but Idk it was a random thing I was thinking about lmao.

Responses
    Wendychoux July 21, 2026 8:04 pm

    The same reason why hantai, and the porn industry in general is so big, because society like it, it feeds in the fantasy and pleasure of people, and sex genuinely do something to the brain and it is also something that can be turned into an addiction, but if you want more details on that I'm sure you can found some video or documentaries on the subject on youtube

    aaa July 21, 2026 8:06 pm

    it’s very obvious imo when an author draws their art around a story they’ve clearly already drafted up vs when an author crafts a story around their art style. typically the latter is half assed and has to revolve around some sort of sex-driven plotline.

    rilakkuma July 21, 2026 8:06 pm

    A lot of people feel the same way you do (including me)

    TheHolyCow July 21, 2026 8:08 pm

    I totally agree with you to me the tension between leads is better than any actual intimacy so I get where ur coming from boo. Sometimes I think comments exaggerate but I know some of them are there for one thing and one thing only but tbh sometimes I get uninterested if they do end up doing it like halfway through and I can never finish the story idk why but it’s a curse call me weird but I can’t help it

    Fwopfwop5000 July 21, 2026 8:10 pm

    I love when smut scenes are making love not just fucking. Like there was one story recently I was really enjoying until the first time and it just felt so focused on them cracking every other scene past that.(manhattan romance if anyone is wondering) and I’ve had it happen with SOOO many stories. Like my top stories either dont have smut, or it’s not enough to drive the plot. My top three are payback, which while it does have smut it doesn’t happen til there is a lot of development between the characters and there’s tons of tension instead. Reunion which has three that are genuinely the most beautiful intimate scenes I’ve ever read. And then netkama punch which doesnt have any. I wish more stories didnt feel the pressure to add them because it ends up feeling forced in

    HoneyBee July 21, 2026 8:12 pm
    The same reason why hantai, and the porn industry in general is so big, because society like it, it feeds in the fantasy and pleasure of people, and sex genuinely do something to the brain and it is also someth... Wendychoux

    I mean I understand that part of it, but at some point I feel like it should be recognized how damaging it is. If you can't survive through a story without the flood of chemicals that your brain gets when you see sexual stuff then ya need a little detox lmao.
    BUT that requires some type of self awareness to recognize when you need to take a step back. Unfortunately a lot of people don't see the issue with it so they don't take the time to heal that part of their brain.
    Also, a lot of us started reading BL very young and unfortunately got introduced to sexual situations when we shouldn't have had access to it. I feel like this is a huge contribution to the problem tbh. One of the first BL mangas I read was Koisuru Boukun on KissManga and LORDDDDD I should not have been reading that as a kid lmfao. Idek what kinda infuelnce that had on my brain and its perception of certain things.

    HoneyBee July 21, 2026 8:16 pm
    I totally agree with you to me the tension between leads is better than any actual intimacy so I get where ur coming from boo. Sometimes I think comments exaggerate but I know some of them are there for one th... TheHolyCow

    Yeahhhhh I have dropped a good amount of stories cuz the plot has just been pushed to the side and they just fuck every chance they get. Like omg I get it but I wanna know wtf is happening in the plot. I start to feel icky sometimes cuz I'll be binging a lot of stories and then I just realize I've been laying in bed for hours just looking at people sex lmaoooo and I'll just have to cleanse my brain with some fluff

    HoneyBee July 21, 2026 8:20 pm
    I love when smut scenes are making love not just fucking. Like there was one story recently I was really enjoying until the first time and it just felt so focused on them cracking every other scene past that.(m... Fwopfwop5000

    I feel like payback is a good example of incorporating smut in a good way lmao. Like the plot is still there FULLY but they also be doing the nasty, ya feel lol

    HoneyBee July 21, 2026 8:24 pm
    it’s very obvious imo when an author draws their art around a story they’ve clearly already drafted up vs when an author crafts a story around their art style. typically the latter is half assed and has to ... aaa

    YES! This! Sometimes it feels like a story is only created cuz someone has a good art style so they feel like they have to create SOMETHING. That's why I really like when artists adapt novels instead of trying to create a story when they kind of don't have the skillset for it (some artists are blessed with both the skills of art and writing though lol). Some people have the genuine artistry at creating a story and building up an actual universe and some people dont but thats okayyyy lol.

    talktothepeach July 21, 2026 8:37 pm
    I love when smut scenes are making love not just fucking. Like there was one story recently I was really enjoying until the first time and it just felt so focused on them cracking every other scene past that.(m... Fwopfwop5000

    I feel like you’d love Shutline if you haven’t read it. They walk that perfect line (in my opinion, maybe most of the audience) of great art, consistently thought out plot and chemistry driven sex scenes. Not just mindless porn.

    Literally some of my faves for intimacy, Shutline, The Broken Ring and My Sunny Days give me the feeling of being provided fresh air after being Dutch Oven-ed for days.

    Fwopfwop5000 July 21, 2026 8:50 pm
    I feel like you’d love Shutline if you haven’t read it. They walk that perfect line (in my opinion, maybe most of the audience) of great art, consistently thought out plot and chemistry driven sex scenes. N... talktothepeach

    Yes I have read all these you mentioned theyre so good

    talktothepeach July 21, 2026 9:04 pm

    I think something that bothers me as much (or even MORE) than authors coasting on “sex sells” and sprinkling one scene of plot for every 10 scenes of porn, is seeing art so egregious that you have to question what the fuck you’re looking at.

    There have been moments I’ve wondered who green lit the designs for the entire slop spectrum, hetero to BL, because who the fuck are they using as a reference to generate what are essentially caricatures of the human body.

    Women who look like toddlers with melons, men with giant breasts and assholes disturbingly similar in structure/position to vaginas than to actual assholes.

    Wendychoux July 21, 2026 9:18 pm
    I mean I understand that part of it, but at some point I feel like it should be recognized how damaging it is. If you can't survive through a story without the flood of chemicals that your brain gets when you s... HoneyBee

    Yeah that why I said it is also an addictionbecause pointing it at it extreme help to understand how grave it can be on people, I also think porn addiction is kinda hard see from an inside perspective but also outside one because this is something that is in general very private.
    Personally I was lucky I started with BL that didn't have sex content in it.all the people I know who read BL started around the same age as me (around 12) ans we didn't start the same why and now the grown ass person that I am realised something about how this kind of stories are marketed, we know that sexual content is for adult even when I was younger but it was marketed as if it was for teenagers and that is a big problem, and if you had up the mindset around this age when it comes to sexual content whether the person is educated or not, it just end up being a shit show