garbage

I could hardly consider this incest tbh, technically it is bc they’re related by coming from the same parent god but they’re not human… it’s feels pointless to apply human morals and ethics upon gods who only serves their own purpose and desires.

Also enjoying such dark stories like these doesn’t immediately mean it’s a kink. People can enjoy these bc they know it’s fiction and that’s where the line is drawn, I like the incest/SA/ and other taboos in stories not bc I want it to happen to me or to others, it doesn’t make it my kink. You’re weird for saying that. I like these elements bc it keeps the story entertaining and it there to intentionally make feel and think for myself like this or that scene is bad or this character is bad for doing it, so I feel bad and that’s the point, it succeeded in evoking a feeling regardless if that’s good or bad which is what creative works/art are supposed to do.

I get what you're saying, but I think you're giving “it's fiction” way too much credit here. You can recognize that something is fictional without treating “it’s fiction” as a carte blanche that exempts it from moral judgment. Obviously enjoying a fictional portrayal of SA or other taboo subjects doesn't mean you want it happening to you or someone else, but that doesn't suddenly make the interest itself immune to criticism either. If someone says they genuinely enjoy stories where coercion, rape, incest, etc. are used as entertainment or major sources of appeal, I don't think it's unreasonable to question that taste. You don't have to secretly want those things in real life for people to find the enjoyment uncomfortable or disturbing, especially when these aren't just imaginary concepts with no real-world equivalent. And the “they're gods so it's hardly incest” point doesn't really work for me either. Their species being different from humans doesn't somehow nullify the familial relationship the story itself establishes; if characters are deliberately written as being related and that relationship is then sexualized, calling it incest is hardly some bizarre stretch. You can say their world doesn't follow human ethics, sure, but that doesn't erase what the relationship is. Also, ENNEAD already had plenty to work with without relying so heavily on sexual violence. The power struggle, mythology, betrayal, manipulation and the characters' messed up relationships were interesting enough on their own. A story can make you angry, uncomfortable or fascinated through its writing without rape or sexual assault having to carry that weight. You can enjoy those elements for whatever reason you do, that's obviously your choice, but I'm allowed to look at that same enjoyment and think it's pretty questionable. That's kinda the point of having opinions lol.

Tell me you've never read Egyptian (or Greek tbh) mythology without telling me you've never read Egyptian or Greek mythology. Yeah, of course this story is going to have dark, difficult themes that clash with our modern mindsets. Understand that these elements you're talking about were established by the mythos itself, not just arbitrarily invented in this webtoon to satisfy some modern author's/audience's "fucked up kinks."

Creating a story based on the lore of the Egyptian Ennead and having these darker themes (godly incest, rape, abuse of divine power) is like making a story about sirens and having them drown sailors. It's a darker side of the lore you're engaging with--these stories have evolved over the course of human history, in different times than our own, and that means there are going to be things that don't adhere to our modern morals. That doesn't mean everyone reading and enjoying the hypothetical siren story likes seeing people drown, or that everyone reading this series just does it for their "fucked up kinks." (Also, I can't believe there are actually people kinkshaming in the comments section of mangago, of all places).

It can definitely be uncomfortable to read the rape scenes (it always hurts my heart to see Seth suffering) but with the exception of that one early bonus chapter set in an AU, none of the nonconsensual intimacy in this series is glorified or portrayed as something to enjoy. Also, they DO HAVE warnings at the beginning of chapters containing rape and/or violence. So you can definitely avoid it if you want to.

That's not even addressing the fact that this story is MEANT, at times, to be heavy and uncomfortable. The CORE themes in this webtoon revolve around complex relationships between guilt and fear, past sins and present atonement, what it means to be a god, and the nature of humanity. The romance is similarly nuanced, engaging with questions about vengeance and forgiveness, loyalty and obsession, and rejection and companionship.

Also, we're at chapter 212. Not sure when you stopped reading, but given that you didn't even read the whole story, you're in absolutely no place to say "more than half" of the romance is just "rape and sexual assault." The comment is a) frustrating, and b) objectively wrong. The relationship between Seth and Horus has been developed far more through non-sexual interactions than it has sexual ones.

Don't like, don't read. But you don't need to call the series "garbage" either.

oh my god pagi is just sharing their opinion. its NOT that deep yall

and anyone is allowed to express there disagreement with his opinion , not a big deal ╮(￣▽￣)╭

agree with you , I like UNCHANGED MAN alot , not because I have a kink for all those dark themes like r@pe and all but the way author has wrote it , every chapter just makes you want more .