Im scared to read it, did he rape him....?

No he’s just aggressive but it’s consensual

Yes he did. Ignore the usee above, yeseung's provocations were never meant to be consent for whats happening to him, that's just his trauma response to grooming, aka seeking affection from the people who abuse him.

You can see in the chapter he asks gyeol to stop multiple times and he seems scared and cries, its non consensual

Don’t ignore me you’re lying. He doesn’t ask him to stop multiple times. Unless it’s clearly non consensual you can’t just write it off as rape. He’s scared that Gyeol will leave him and hate him not that he’ll get hurt.

You’re right that it’s a trauma response but your perspective is so black and white that you’re ignoring all of the gray area in the context of this chapter.

Reread the chapters, he asks him to stop and slow down and tries to suck up to him so gyeol forgives him. Its true hes not scared of being hurt, and that he is scared of gyeol leaving, but that literally doesnt make it any better lmfao ??? That goes to show you how shaken and unstable he is at the moment, just because he doesnt make a clear proper yes or no doesnt mean its consensual tf? He's not in any state to be having sex repeatedly right now but gyeol literally blatantly and knowingly ignores that part and continues his actions anyway. It is SA.

Neither of them are in the proper state to be having sex if you want to really be fr, but it’s their stupid way of communicating with one another. It’s not one-sided.

Then inspire me with your naunced take on a story with clear eroticism and sexualization of abuse or trauma bruh. The grey area you're talking about is yeseung still responding to gyeol in the bath scene I'm assuming, but literally a few panels before he was showing how much he's scared kf gyeol leaving him, yeseung sees this moment as the only way of surviving gyeol's anger and is acting on it to stop further escalation, gyeol is very reactive snd implusive and I don't doubt him for a minute to hit or do something to yeseung in the heat of the moment, if he regrets it later on is in no way an explanation for this situation

In this specific context, yeseung is not thinking about his own desires, hes ignoring his discomfort and fear because he wants gyeol's approval and affection and the only way to get it is with going with whatever gyeol wants instead of stopping it, this also stims from his fear of his boss and groomer, he's literally trying the same method he has been doing with his boss on gyeol and that's not a good sign by any means.

If everyone in the comment section has a similar opinion, why do you think yours matters the most? You can be as desensitized to rape as you want, but it’s not going to stop people from calling it what it is. Try to read Yesung’s body language, he acted almost the same way with the old man. Are you going to say that was their way of “communicating” as well? Fucking dumbass

I'm with you on this. It broke my heart cuz Gyeol treated him no better than that old f*cker.

True, gyeol is also pretty violent and hot headed so he can't make decisions correctly, but it goes to show you their toxic dynamic if anything, if gyeol is not willing to change for yeseung and become more aware of his actions he'll constantly hurt yeseung and further emotionally drain him, and again I need you to understand the fact that yeseung isn't "opposing" it isn't a clear indication of consent, it's ultimately all he's ever known to do descalate situations, which is by fawning and letting ths abuser do whatever he wants (in past cases the boss, but in here gyeol), yeseung is not in the right headspace to give permission because his psychological and emotional response is overriding his brain and exhausting him mentally enough to not be able to think properly of how to calm down gyeol in another way, in that sense the bigger fault lays within gyeol who literally knows of yeseung's trauma and abuse and grooming situation

I see it more as Yeseung seeing Gyeol as a safe haven away from the old man and that is why he is scared. He checked out for a moment because he’s in his head about the situation. Yeseung genuinely fears the old man and would rather endure Gyeol’s anger where he feels safe then have Gyeol hate him and have to go back to him. However, Yeseung has been conditioned to respond to the old man and that’s why Gyeol is so angry cause he doesn’t understand the extent of his trauma.

I’m not saying either of them are in the right but it’s a very delicate situation that neither of them know how to handle.

I’m not desensitized to rape, nor will I respond to your immature name calling. We can all have our own opinion on this but neither of us will be 100% correct because we aren’t the one writing the story.

See how you didn’t answer my question either? And yes, you are desensitized. In your own words, you said, “He was scared to lose Gyeol but not to be hurt,” as if that was supposed to be any different. Since when does consensual sex involve fear or resistance ? If it were consensual to begin with, nobody would even be questioning it. And you don’t have to be an author to understand what’s going on. Once you consume repetitive sexual abuse content, you can tell right away. Fucking dumbass x2

I didn’t answer your question cause I didn’t feel the need to, fucking dumbass. I don’t think my opinion matters the most, I’m just a regular commenter. I don’t care if you agree or not. And I won’t argue about it.

Bro I actually love you thank you for calling these rapist apologists out youre genuinely the only one with common sense in this convo

you’re welcome xx I’m dragging anyone or anything who’s defending gyeol’s weirdass behavior

Dubious consent is a sugar coated term for rape. It's to make rape scenes palatable for readers, and even as an acceptable and forgivable act inside a supposedly romantiv relationship.

Yeseung gave his consent not because he wants to feel good having sex (the right way), but because of his trauma, and for Gyeol not to hate him. He thinks that's what he deserves. If you tell me Gyoel can't recognize Yeseung's fear and trauma, that makes him stupid and idiot, but still a rapist.