I still abide to the comment that the male best friend with the senpai thing is way too forced jfc. Technically it "made sense" because that's what we're told.
but overall it did feel like it came out of nowhere orz and even afterwards i couldn't feel any of their chapters. Even the mangaka sometimes admit to just writing this and that about them half hazardly so eh ig in a way it help for me to not take their existence seriously? Sigh. I'm still bummed out of that. I just remind myself of the mains to heal myself.

Tbh while I'm perfectly capable of adjusting myself to the gag vibe aka not taking everything seriously. I do get a bit miffed everytime they downplay the morally questionable bits like with the ml's dad among other aspects of other characters that are quite morally questionable. It takes me out of the story jfc. They weren't seen as joke no, but i felt like they brush it off like it's no big deal?
Ig i just want to say, despite the mains imperfection at times, their loyalty is Impeccably Outstanding at it's core. Even though some characters or parts turn me off, these two are doing the hard carry.