So I'm not going to say that fiction doesn't affect reality because that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the words people use to describe things that are in fiction (specifically shota/lolicon). So CSAM stands for child sexual abuse material, and recently I saw some discourse on my fyp about the anime MHA (I don't watch it so I don't know about specific characters) and apparently there was an artist who made a doujinshi (I believe it was at least) about a ship from MHA which I think the artist de-aged the characters or at least one of them (I'm not entirely sure because people were saying different things about it) and made one of the characters rape the other. Now people have dived straight into calling that doujin CSAM, which is where I have a little problem with it. I'm not saying the comic isn't disgusting and I'm not going to look for it either (I also have a problem with people trying to find it but I'll say something about it in a second) but the problem is because it's fictional it legally cannot be considered CSAM, because CSAM is more serious then a doujinshi of fictional characters. There needs to be a victim for it to be CSAM, but because there's no specific victim because there fictional it won't be considered CSAM. Again I'm not saying it's not disgusting, but I don't think we should be calling it what it's not. Now another thing I wanna say is that if we are calling that doujinshi CSAM, you legally shouldn't be trying to find it or share it with other people. CSAM is illegal, and sharing it around with other people ESPECIALLY MINORS is also illegal. You can get in serious trouble for that. I'm not talking by my feelings or your feelings, I'm talking regards to law about it (which does differ depending on countries, but real people will always take priority over fictional characters). I also believe that doujinshi was shared only with trusted people of the artist (or followers, one or the other) and people have managed to get in just to leak and share the entire thing with other people which is a stupid idea in my opinion. Regardless of what you think of people who indulge in problematic media, it is best to let them stay in their own space instead of barging in and creating problems with these people that won't ever be solved.
So I'm not going to say that fiction doesn't affect reality because that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the words people use to describe things that are in fiction (specifically shota/lolicon). So CSAM stands for child sexual abuse material, and recently I saw some discourse on my fyp about the anime MHA (I don't watch it so I don't know about specific characters) and apparently there was an artist who made a doujinshi (I believe it was at least) about a ship from MHA which I think the artist de-aged the characters or at least one of them (I'm not entirely sure because people were saying different things about it) and made one of the characters rape the other. Now people have dived straight into calling that doujin CSAM, which is where I have a little problem with it. I'm not saying the comic isn't disgusting and I'm not going to look for it either (I also have a problem with people trying to find it but I'll say something about it in a second) but the problem is because it's fictional it legally cannot be considered CSAM, because CSAM is more serious then a doujinshi of fictional characters. There needs to be a victim for it to be CSAM, but because there's no specific victim because there fictional it won't be considered CSAM. Again I'm not saying it's not disgusting, but I don't think we should be calling it what it's not. Now another thing I wanna say is that if we are calling that doujinshi CSAM, you legally shouldn't be trying to find it or share it with other people. CSAM is illegal, and sharing it around with other people ESPECIALLY MINORS is also illegal. You can get in serious trouble for that. I'm not talking by my feelings or your feelings, I'm talking regards to law about it (which does differ depending on countries, but real people will always take priority over fictional characters). I also believe that doujinshi was shared only with trusted people of the artist (or followers, one or the other) and people have managed to get in just to leak and share the entire thing with other people which is a stupid idea in my opinion. Regardless of what you think of people who indulge in problematic media, it is best to let them stay in their own space instead of barging in and creating problems with these people that won't ever be solved.