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Salem Saberhagen December 28, 2017 7:37 pm

When will yaoi mangas embrace the concept of switching?
It could save a lot of grief

And it bothers me a little when one person caves.
But anyway, this was still an enjoyable read

Responses
    morning_dew December 28, 2017 7:50 pm

    Or they can, you know, not do anal at all if both are against being penetrated. That would save some grief, too.

    Salem Saberhagen December 28, 2017 8:27 pm
    Or they can, you know, not do anal at all if both are against being penetrated. That would save some grief, too. morning_dew

    Yes, that too. But I don't think I've ever read a yaoi where both characters consciously abstain from anal sex.

    morning_dew December 28, 2017 9:10 pm
    Yes, that too. But I don't think I've ever read a yaoi where both characters consciously abstain from anal sex. Salem Saberhagen

    I know, but there are quite a few gay people/couples who do irl (because it's not their thing). I think it would be interesting, too, because it's not something I've seen in yaoi before. I know that would bore most yaoi fans though lol.

    Chie December 29, 2017 12:55 am
    I know, but there are quite a few gay people/couples who do irl (because it's not their thing). I think it would be interesting, too, because it's not something I've seen in yaoi before. I know that would bore ... morning_dew

    Omg, that sounds rlly cute and romantic (?) Idk, I would like to read a yaoi like this (=・ω・=)

    Queenbanana December 29, 2017 6:33 am

    I know!! Why can't they freaking compromise. Do rock paper scissors for whoever is going to do it first, then take turns for god's sake it bothers me so much too

    Suck my tortellini December 30, 2017 7:04 am

    well it really depends on the couple if they want to switch. i have 2 gay friends and i always ask them if they want to 'put it in' or 'getting put on', and they both want to be the bottom because they like the feeling, and being a top is a hassle for them (with that thrusting or wtv.) oh shit im getting real here lmao.

    Salem Saberhagen December 30, 2017 8:15 am
    well it really depends on the couple if they want to switch. i have 2 gay friends and i always ask them if they want to 'put it in' or 'getting put on', and they both want to be the bottom because they like the... Suck my tortellini

    Yeah. I know. Switching isn't for everyone. And most people have personal preferences. But in this case they're both "straight men turned gay" and these sort of mangas are tricky in that respect, because they (sometimes) have one character being goaded into bottoming when they don't want to, and that irks me a little.
    Since the premise of two men suddenly turning gay already doesn't seem realistic (to me) I'd personally hope to see the ideal situation where the characters switch and are happy. But again, that's simply me projecting my own preferences onto the characters. I respect the mangaka's decision to go down this route, even if I don't agree with it on a personal level.

    Salem Saberhagen December 30, 2017 8:16 am
    I know!! Why can't they freaking compromise. Do rock paper scissors for whoever is going to do it first, then take turns for god's sake it bothers me so much too Queenbanana

    I know we'd all like it to be as simple as rock paper scissors to "make it fair", but the reality of it isn't that easy.

    Salem Saberhagen December 30, 2017 8:21 am
    I know, but there are quite a few gay people/couples who do irl (because it's not their thing). I think it would be interesting, too, because it's not something I've seen in yaoi before. I know that would bore ... morning_dew

    It would be a fresh and realistic take. But I'm of the opinion that a good chunk of people who read yaoi don't want realism. They are, to some degree, fetishising gay couples. Which is why regardless of how good a story is, how good the character and plot development is, if there isn't a sex scene... They start complaining about it.
    And as always the comments section are full of people (much like myself) complaining about who tops and who bottoms

    Salem Saberhagen December 30, 2017 8:26 am
    I know, but there are quite a few gay people/couples who do irl (because it's not their thing). I think it would be interesting, too, because it's not something I've seen in yaoi before. I know that would bore ... morning_dew

    There was this one yaoi though that came out recently which was based on a true story of a gay man and a straight man who started dating, and they abstained for a really long time because the straight man wasn't okay with being physical. I forgot the name of the manga. But anyway, I liked it. It was realistic for the most part. But a lot of people still complained calling it boring.

    Heerya December 30, 2017 5:23 pm
    There was this one yaoi though that came out recently which was based on a true story of a gay man and a straight man who started dating, and they abstained for a really long time because the straight man wasn'... Salem Saberhagen

    http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/tatoeba_konna_koi_no_hanashi/
    This one? :p

    I really liked it too for the sincerity of the relationship and when I saw the comments of other people I was like "Godammit you don't understand anything!" ):