I'm just curious so don't take this the wrong way, but why are you upset with the title? Is it because it is given to a women? Do you think it's demeaning? Do you think a man being referred to with a female title is insulting in anyway?
I know for me personally, I hate it because is like saying that because he does chores, he’s automatically the “wife.” Because women are supposed to stay home and do housework. It gives that “women belong in the kitchen” vibe to me. It’s also insulting to men who do housework. Men who cook and clean instead of cutting grass. It’s insulting to both parties because it’s assigning gender roles by saying that the “wife” takes care of the house while the husband brings home the bacon.
Also it’s kind of annoying because a wife is traditionally a woman, so it kind of makes it seem like the couple is saying that heterosexual relationships are better or normal. Whether they see it that way or not, that’s how it sounds. Why can’t they just be husbands instead of the traditional “husband and wife.”
Sorry to butt in, I know you didn’t as me just thought I’d give my unwanted opinion, as I tend to do. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
keep in mind that this story was released in 2008 in japan. there was no concept of husband and husband. id understand if you would get upset over it if they still did this type of thing nowadays, but this was in 2008. so get over it you butthurt people. getting fired up about trivial things that don't directly affect you, isn't going to help you in anyway.
Don't worry all replies are appreciated. i was just trying to figure out if this was a case of misogyny or not. You see, i know this gay guy and he really makes fun feminine gays. Calls them 'sister' in a very degrading manner. he usually uses feminine titles in a mocking way to refer to bottoms. i wasn't even aware that feminine gays get discriminated against even by other gays. Then i came across the entire 'no femme' and 'masc for masc' groups and i have to say it was quite shocking.
what does this mean " 'no femme' and 'masc for masc' groups"??
these groups consist of gay men who hate feminine gays. usually on their dating profiles they would write 'no femmes' or 'masc for masc' which means they only prefer guys who look and act masculine. they are extremely misogynistic. and internally homophobic. which is hypocritical honestly as they are gay themselves but that's the way they are.
That's exactly what I felt, thank you so much for understanding hahahah
Yes I checked the date after commenting, it was my wrong, sorry for that. But I mean, I still see this kind of things nowadays, not as frequently of course (thanks god), so I'm getting kind of saturated about seeing stuff like this, and in such a great story, I felt somehow disappointed. Anyway, sorry if I offended you in anyway, wasn't my intention.
It's exactly what the other comment said, it's just that, why do they call him a wife and not a housekeeper? I felt that as if they were saying that it's a wife's "job" to do all the chores and stuff, and it was that point that pissed me off... Hmm... I'm not sure about the other things you asked since I'm not deep into this topic, and I don't want to say anything that might hurt someone, so the best that I can say is that, the only thing that bothered me was about what I said, I don't mind people referring to, for example, a man as a woman if they're not trying to offend or if there's some kind of agreement between them that it's ok.
Btw, I'm sorry if I offended you somehow, it wasn't my intention (also thanks for not being mean at me ♡)
Well tbh I kinda understand people exploding over stereotypes. Especially when they mix them between genders like calling a man a wife. But it pisses me off when people demean the women who are the ''stereotypical wife". it IS a hard job to do the chores and rear the children. There is nothing bad bout it. IT is the same job that demands same respect as being a doctor. I mean I know women who are literally superheroes cuz there ain't no other way they can manage what they manage. So being called a good wife is something to be proud of even in male relationship not looked at as something filthy.
It is fascinating to read how a slightly frustrated comment took a positive turn into a respectful exchange of interesting point of views and honest curiosity! It's really nice compared to the hatefull discussions you can often find! Thanx everyone, this really made my day!!!
First of all I like this manga but
If it's boys love, why are you referring at him as a wife just because he's doing the chores? It's really annoying to read stuff like that, even though sensei's work is amazing and I like the story and all, this really pissed me off.
Some of you might think I'm overreacting or such but I had to take it out of my chest because I can't stand when it happens in yaoi, that's it ╮(￣▽￣)╭