yup.
i really don't like his character at all. Like if you are planning on trying to do good for the kingdom, don't start off with murder, like what the actual fugde?!
talk to the king, convince him, communication is key. why try to bring piece to your beloved country with such an ugly stain!? stupid ass effing move. had he talked, and convinced the king, or his subbordinates of an alternative, then he could show the king that what he proposed is working. but noooo, his ugly personality preferred assasination. what an ugly character he is.
thereis absolutely nothing, NOTHING that can justify his disgusting behaviour. I wish the worst upon him for making yona and hak go through what they went through.
arrrrg, my hatred for a just a manga character is real xD hahahaha
I totally feel you!
Like, okay let's say the king was actually a horrible person (but so was his father soooo) anyway, for his love for the country and for Yona and Hak I don't know how he could even do that!
Trying to kill her after and pushing the blame onto Hak like what??!!!! You guys grew up together for godsake!
It's like, does he really think that the truth won't be reveled at some point? I mean so many people already know about it, it's just a matter of time before the masses to as well!
I do feel like he could have been an amazing king but he just chose to be a god damn asshole so fuck him
Ok but first of all, is totally justify since the king was the one who killed his bother and so woon's father, and second for what we've seen on the flashbacks the king had some kind of grudge with soo won and obviously wouldn't let him interfered in his country, as for why he treated yona and hack like that, is because they new what happened and needed to chase them out of the country otherwise all did (killing the king, taking the power and losing his best friend) would be in vain. The generals of the 4 tribes new what had happened and everybody was ok with it except mundok and the ppl of the country kinda know as well but the don't care because thanks to so won there are less dying of hunger, ppl have actually rights, other countries can't abuse them, have much better quality of life, so they don't care who killed the king who would not care about their ppl, they just care to know if the new king is doing right, and so far, he is.
yeah that's how I feel, I didn't hate Soo Won, in fact he's my fav character in this manga, I like him so much but I don't know why if I was at his place, I would feel really depressed because obviously he loves Yona and Hak but then because of his ego and goal he ignored the feelings he had with his two childhood friends. I MEAN CAN'T YOU SEE HOW HE ALWAYS LOOKS LIKE HE WAS SAD ?! And that's why I feel he's really pathetic ╥﹏╥ I love Soo Won both with Yona and Hak but I realised their relationship would never be like before
wait which chapter was it revealed that the king killed his father? its been a while since updates ahaha
but wasn't soowon father like, a dick? i remember the conversation yona had with soowon, about how his father would perform disgusting acts against the people of the neighboring countries. and i remember soo won not even seeing what his father did as bad.... like yo that is concerning.... knowing your father mutilated people...and being okay with that....like what the eff? i think soo won has some mental issues, or skewed sense of moral and empathy. which was probably thanks to how his father raised him, and the time period they're in, a War period, its sad. (well we ourselves are kinda close, with almost every country owning nuclear bombs *-*)
Of course, if the king did kill his father, thats messed up to ( the king could have tried to communicate with his father, if that didn't work, maybe lock him up?)
oh right, about the flash back yona and soowon had about the king not letting him into the spirit tomb (i think thats what it was), i thought it was for soowons own good. i did not see a negative from that flash back at all..... sure the manga artist drew it so that the king looked down and his face looked scary....but he was looking at a small child who is shorter than him.. xD plus it was the memory of a child... they interpret things differently. if an adult towers over you, of course they will feel intimidated, thats why most adults kneel down to the kids eye level to talk to them, its less intimidating.
omg don't get me started on the other tribe leaders...... like how pathetic of them. they couldn't come together to convince the king of better alternative methods? all they did was blame him. like NO! if you see that something is wrong with how someone is doing things, and that it is negatively affecting you and others, you don't just blame them for your situation WHEN YOU HAVENT DONE ANYTHING TO IMPROVE YOUR OWN SITUATION YOURSELF! like stop playing the victim, its pathetic. no one is going to take pity on someone who isnt willing to help themselves......even if they don't listen to your reasoning, don't just effing kill them... like why the hell is that your second option? thats all you can come up with; 'if they dont listen, kill them?' i wouldn't want to be lead by those tribe leaders, sheesh. those tribe leaders just sat back and bitched, without really doing anything, giving thier responsibility over to a teenager. (i think soowon is a teenager, sure acts like one).
hmmm, i guess in their time, killing people was more "normal" and the civilians were probably desensitized to that cruel behaviour. but just because it was a normal act, IT DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT. just because something is accepted by the majority of the population, doesn't mean that that something is right/correct/truth. Thats a herd/sheep mentality, such a scary thing.
phew i wrote a lot... xD
wow really? he is your favourite.... not to be a bitch, but.... i don't think that is something to feel sorry for. why pity someone who knows exatly what he is doing, his ill intent is all there!
yea he looks sad, BUT HE BROUGHT THAT UPON HIMSELF?! hahahaha can you not see that? if he didn't kill the king, he wouldn't be in the situation he put himself in.... xD
its worrying that you feel empathetic for him.
real talk;
there was a study done on young girls who watched disney movies like Beauty and the best' the results were concerning. When the researchers asked the girl how they would feel if they were in bell position, the girls said if they just behaved at listend to the beast, everything would be fine, that they would be okay. because they saw the beast as a lonely character, they felt sympathy for an abusive character "that could change".....
beauty and the beast is about an abusive man, who locks a girl up in her room....and the kids said they were fine, because they would listen to him....'
yo, dont you see how sad that mind set is? they were willing to accept unacceptable behaviour, because he was a lonely character, and maybe because he was the lead male of these so called fairy tales so much....
like im not attacking you, or anyone, just wanted to open you eyes.
But that doesn't justify killing your friends too. Solving murder over murder is totally pathetic.
lol relax, I didn't justify his actions was right, Ofc what he did was wrong, he got the punishments for what he did, he lost both of his chidhood friends, he was sad but he kept it in, trying to look tough, he's never going to get happiness however you look at it, that's why i said his character is PATHETIC, ofc, I don't feel sorry to him coz that's what he got for killing the king.
As for why he is my fav character is probably because I favor in a long haired character and uhm he got that looks ╮(￣▽￣)╭
( yeah, I think any male character that has blond/white/gray long hair is very attractive even tho the character is the antagonist)
hmm to me, it seemed like you were romanticising the idea of a "pathetic" character.
but its cool, we all have superficial biases. i just assumed he was your favourite because of his character personality, i thought you liked him because he was a sad, lonely character who no one really likes xD because you were sympathizing with him, even used the word depressed.. o.o but if its because of looks, that makes more sense, nothing attached to how he is as a person, but more so how he looks huh. i gotchu.
Anything goes in a coup d'etat
Hmmm....I don't think what he did was completely bad...yeah, maybe it wasn't the most civilized way to take over the kingdom but if there was another way he could think of he would've take It, if you pay attention to the first chapters the king becomes unreasonable when it comes to weapons, and i think the others tribes did tried to reason with him but didn't work, that's why they were so disappointed on him, coz in the end the king has the last word. We see this story through the eyes of yona, and of course she is gonna see her father as 'someone good', but he wasn't good, or at least not a good leader and was harming his own country, u can see that when the leaders of the tribes betrayed him that easily hoping so won would do it better, or when his own ppl were celebrating at the news of their king being murder, I mean, to the kingdom king ll was like...the ruler of north korea, or Maduro from Venezuela, or like some countries in Africa, the country was so poor the ppl were killing each other for a potato!! I mean that's saying something, while the king would give his previous daughter everything until she became an ignorant spoil brad. So won killed a single person but saved a whole kingdom, I think that's fair enough. And I bet, In this time and day, if the ppl of the countries I mention could choose to kill their president and end their suffering, they would do it, is a fact (づ￣ ³￣)づ
If he didn't rebel Kouka Kingdom would have long gone to hell because King।। was too "kind" to let his soldiers fight, the way he did things were wrong but the porpose wasn't.
no, i don't think you can say "hmm you know what, this time murder was good"...... like no, murder is never, and should never be a solution. its a weak persons solution. like even when yona murdered that guy in the harbour village with her bow and arrow. That was a bad move my yona. she shouldn't have killed him. i mean i'm pretty sure they have a jail system, he should have repented in jail.
yes, we do see it mostly through yona's perspective, that is a good point you made. But we also see it through that cute tenant boy and Hak's perspective too. It is only through soowons perspective that the king is seen as "bad" or "evil" and i think that is because soowoon admired his father too much so wanted his father to be the king. and when he learnt that someone other than his father was king, he probably felt dissapointed. and subconsciously started to see his uncle is a negative light. but of course, like everyone, this is all speculations. I don't think the king killed sowons dad at all. sure sowon said it, but thats all the evidence you have....only him saying it. the mangaka never showed any scenes of the king killing his older brother. And i think the older brother truly did not want to be king, he probably wanted to help his little brother with the kingdom. because you see, the only really why we think that king il was a "bad king" is because we only heard it from the characters, there were no scenes in the manga actually showing how he was a bad king, everything was from word of mouth. but the mangaka as shown us how the oother people are. there is the scene clearly showing sowon holding a sword that was lodged into the king. now, it could have been that maybe (a really mother effing big 'maybe') that sowon stumbled upon the king in that situation, and coincidentally at the time he grabbed the sword, yona walks in. for all we know, the king could have told sowon to look after his kingdom because with the sword impaled in him he knew he was gonna drop dead. but with that scenario, it doesn't make sense why he would need to lie to yona, so thats why i think that is not what happened.
i think the people easily believed some false rumors or lies about king il, ( imean the mangaka painted it so that we believed king il was a coward of a king and one who did not like weapons) - its that easy to persuade someones thoughts, because people usually don't question things (sadly) they just go off the information presented/given to them.....
hahaha watch when this manga gets completed and i am way off xD hahahaha i probably am hahahah
Seriously? Omg I'm well aware that this is your opinion and can't change it but look, is not like we're accusing him without proofs, he was a bad king and that's a fact, even yona herself admitted, if u go back to the yun's past, or yona's first visit to the fire tribe or when they when to the water tribe and found the nadia etc etc, what do you think the manga is about?? Someone killed the former king because was a bad ruler and now the current king is trying to clean the mess the king ll left, the princess who survive recognized her father weakness and is trying to amend for it after seeing the deplorable state the country is in. And they explained so won's fathers position long time ago, he was someone who liked the war, when his father choose ll as a king he was ok with it, and became a respected and violent general who at the time gave kouka a lot of power and fear, so won didn't want the crown but to fight along side with his father, the yo hon was killed for his lil' brother, that's what we been told and it's the truth until proven otherwise.
Is not that ppl easily believe rumors', you have to understand this is a manga and everything the mangaka says is caved in stones coz, like even if yona is the main character if The mangaka says at the end she ends up with lili, or that soo won is the real reincarnation of king hyryuu then that's how it is, we'll be mad and make a tantrum but at the end it doesn't change anything, so if the mangaka say king I'll was a bad ruler and kill his brother....that's how it is
Okay waaaw you guys wrote so much I didn't read everything lol
Point is... this is manga we shall chill XD
ikr.. it's just a manga, there's no point in fighting abt smth fictional╮(￣▽￣)╭ I literally just said Soo Won is pathetic, that's all, no hard feelings or what
Same here. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Soo Won's character is somewhat looks pathetic to me..