Sorry, guys! During system maintenance, some functions like comment are unavailable.

Is it just me or did the creator draw the tomboyish roughen the character design for the t...

Kiki September 17, 2018 3:43 am

Is it just me or did the creator draw the tomboyish roughen the character design for the tomboyish character? (I forgot her name.) In the beginning both girls were drawn as equally cute and feminine, it was just that one wore more pants. But it's as if, now that the romance is acknowledged between them, she accentuates the masculinity of one over the other...?

Idk. But another reader actually asked if one was a guy now lol! And I totally get the reasons behind that question even if it was awkwardly expressed.

Responses
    Anonymous September 17, 2018 3:53 am

    I also think the same. It's like her character design has change. Back then she looks more feminine but now, it's just guy with long hair. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this in a bad way. I just want to state that her looks has definitely change.

    Kiki September 17, 2018 4:14 am
    I also think the same. It's like her character design has change. Back then she looks more feminine but now, it's just guy with long hair. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this in a bad way. I just want to st... @Anonymous

    If she was drawn like that from the beginning, or if it was all a part of a general evolution in the creator's art style I would have zero issues. But it looks like yet another person who can't envision a lesbian romance outside of a boy-girl paradigm. It's disappointing.

    Zelnion September 17, 2018 7:34 am
    I also think the same. It's like her character design has change. Back then she looks more feminine but now, it's just guy with long hair. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this in a bad way. I just want to st... @Anonymous

    Maybe it’s how you perceive it since the author’s art style changed, but to me she still looks very feminine^^

    Anonymous September 17, 2018 8:31 am
    If she was drawn like that from the beginning, or if it was all a part of a general evolution in the creator's art style I would have zero issues. But it looks like yet another person who can't envision a lesbi... Kiki

    Completely agree.

    Kileya September 17, 2018 3:47 pm

    I feel like it's the clothing and the partial style change. I used to do the same thing when I had crushes or was trying to attract someone. I went kinda tomboyish and tried to be more handsome rather than cute. I'd say it's more of a preference thing + tomboyish-slightly-bigger-and-loose clothing can really make you look rough even if you aren't

    Anonymous September 17, 2018 4:36 pm
    I feel like it's the clothing and the partial style change. I used to do the same thing when I had crushes or was trying to attract someone. I went kinda tomboyish and tried to be more handsome rather than cute... Kileya

    I think it's more the author has fallen into the uke seme trap. A the series has gone on, the blonde haired character is portrayed as the smaller, more girly, naive woman whereas the dark haired character is very "tomboyish" and dominant, rather than showing two average women as opposed to having to make one butch and the other femme.

    Anonymous September 17, 2018 4:40 pm
    I think it's more the author has fallen into the uke seme trap. A the series has gone on, the blonde haired character is portrayed as the smaller, more girly, naive woman whereas the dark haired character is v... @Anonymous

    There's a youtube music video where they use a picture from this webtoon, and everyone, including the uploader thought the dark haired woman was a man. The gist of the song, was "I kissed a girl" song in a man's voice. So people do think the dark haired woman is too masculine, rather than just a woman who is gay.

    Kiki September 17, 2018 10:26 pm
    I think it's more the author has fallen into the uke seme trap. A the series has gone on, the blonde haired character is portrayed as the smaller, more girly, naive woman whereas the dark haired character is v... @Anonymous

    The "uke-seme trap" is exactly the same thing as the "boy-girl paradigm". It's a refusal to see romantic relationships outside of a heterosexual formula. Even in BL bara stories most of the ones I've read do not feature "reversible" as readers call it in the face of reality and common sense.

    My complaint wasn't really about the tomboyish issue. Again I don't mind that. Nothing wrong with being tomboyish. Nothing wrong with drawing a masculine looking female character either. My issue is that artist's character design for the tomboyish character has become even more masculine, the lines have become rougher, seemingly *in response* to the developing romance. And it betrays her prejudices.

    Kiki September 17, 2018 10:29 pm
    I feel like it's the clothing and the partial style change. I used to do the same thing when I had crushes or was trying to attract someone. I went kinda tomboyish and tried to be more handsome rather than cute... Kileya

    What style change? She has always worn pants and slightly loose clothing. In any case, that is not what I noticed. I'm referring to the actual line drawing in her character design, of her actual *physical features* including her face and arms.

    Rocky September 18, 2018 1:40 am

    I also kind of feel like it's her clothes cuz in the latest chapters she really does look like a dude but for the most part she only looks slightly broader and taller than before so yeah she's changed but not drastically I think (=・ω・=)

    Anonymous September 18, 2018 6:16 am
    What style change? She has always worn pants and slightly loose clothing. In any case, that is not what I noticed. I'm referring to the actual line drawing in her character design, of her actual *physical featu... Kiki

    True, the way the author draw her definitely has change.

    Anonymous September 18, 2018 6:17 am
    If she was drawn like that from the beginning, or if it was all a part of a general evolution in the creator's art style I would have zero issues. But it looks like yet another person who can't envision a lesbi... Kiki

    Agree.

    ataraxy September 23, 2018 3:37 am

    ? she was drawn like that from the beginning. go back to the first part, ch. 1-13. pgs. 14-31 contain some of tan jiu's concept art. it does look like sun jing was more feminine in the earliest drawings but became more androgynous before the series even began.

    ataraxy September 23, 2018 3:45 am

    specifically, pgs. 19/31, 20/31, 22/31, 24/31, 25/31, 26/31, 27/31, 29/31...

    in fact I have 29/31 saved and was looking at it one time when my sister saw and assumed sun jing was a boy.

    also looks like older sun jing's style is more ""masculine,"" more leather, pants, and shirts make her seem flat-chested. it makes sense that sun jing now is gradually changing her style.

    ataraxy September 23, 2018 3:58 am
    specifically, pgs. 19/31, 20/31, 22/31, 24/31, 25/31, 26/31, 27/31, 29/31...in fact I have 29/31 saved and was looking at it one time when my sister saw and assumed sun jing was a boy. also looks like older sun... ataraxy

    *shirts that make her seem flat-chested

    Luka September 23, 2018 4:09 am

    While I do recognize your point of basing a lesbian relationship on a guy-girl paradigm being negative as it paints an heteronormative view on a a girl-girl couple, a lot of her early designs (as mentioned in the comments above) showed her as being butchy, aint nothing wrong with that.

    Luka September 23, 2018 4:12 am
    specifically, pgs. 19/31, 20/31, 22/31, 24/31, 25/31, 26/31, 27/31, 29/31...in fact I have 29/31 saved and was looking at it one time when my sister saw and assumed sun jing was a boy. also looks like older sun... ataraxy

    Yesssss, I support & love my butch daughter

    Anonymous September 24, 2018 3:44 am

    If you look at the early side arts you can tell she was always intended to be the more masculine of the two. Also I think she looks plenty like a girl rather people think she looks like a guy because anime/manga/etc got people so desensitized to those girly boy bishies that they don't realize it's the other way around.

    Anonymous September 24, 2018 8:35 pm

    Yup agree with past few comments. Shes always been more tomboyish which isn't a problem - there are plenty of stories with two femmes etc so why not have some with a more butch character and a femme? Idk I just think you're looking into this too deeply - art styles develop and change, and his includes exaggeration of features etc, there's nothing wrong with this!

    Kiki September 27, 2018 5:45 pm
    specifically, pgs. 19/31, 20/31, 22/31, 24/31, 25/31, 26/31, 27/31, 29/31...in fact I have 29/31 saved and was looking at it one time when my sister saw and assumed sun jing was a boy. also looks like older sun... ataraxy

    I don't know how many times I'll be able to explain that I meant the line art in relation to specific parts of her physique and not the fashion. (Her essential fashion style has not changed much and I for sure don't associate leather with being masculine anyway for crying out loud.) The lines in the 29/31 design are far more elegant and the face far more delicate than anything we're getting for that character now. Ergo it's the *complete opposite* of what my post addressed.

    If you don't view the change as I do or think that it's a response to anything (or that it even happened at all), no problem. But it takes more than baggy pants and shirts to make a character butch, and I'm over people in the thread thinking *that's* what I'm referring to. Or constantly defending her right to be tomboyish when I already stated *that* wasn't my issue either. I ain't about to link to Youtube drawing videos for clarification and I probably don't have the vocabulary to explain my critique (I don't draw) clearly so I'll end it here. Agree to disagree.