All these yaoifangirls thinking being "uke" and "seme" are fixed descriptions on how homos...

and this is why, seke is lifeee
and please, don't make it sound like all fujoshies like this fixed thing...
nor make it sound like all yaoifangirls only care about fuck, there is shounin ai , you know? and many of those fangirls like it more than yaoi...

Yaoifangirls are by definition into yaoi, you ignorant pleb.

yaoifangirl refers to a fangirl reading bl, any kind of it, do u think ppl really have times to give specific names?
and the fact the u only reply to that bit, makes u the ignorant twat...

Hi! Actual gay man here. Yeah, the whole idea of splitting queer sexuality into "tops" and "bottoms" is hella problematic, but it's also not just fujoshi. It's a Western thing too. It's extremely prevalent in Western porn, and in the general presentation of gay men and women within the media. Either way, just rambling about how yaoi fetishizes queer people isn't going to help anything. Honestly, if you're going to complain about the fetishization of queer people, you're going to be complaining your entire life. If you have a problem with it, then do something about it. Support queer representation and queer authors (there's a mangaka called Mentaiko who's a gay man who makes BL manga, and he's a great place to start). Don't just randomly complain on a forum about how fujoshi are fetishizing queer people; it will solve nothing and just make you look like an fool desperate for conflict. Also, I need to ask... Have you read any yaoi manga? Because the good ones typically ignore the false dichotomy of seme/uke as well as the strange heterocentralism present in the idea of the feminine bottom and masculine top pairing. Like, even the one you're commenting on doesn't really follow that trope.

Wow this went on for a while. Anyway, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

We all needed every word of this.

It's all fiction thou... you don't see people complaining about dragons in a fantasy story, just because they don't exist in rl...
Read whatever rocks your socks and skip what you don't like (:

Oh my God did a gay man just call being a top or bottom "problematic" and a "Western media" invention? That's literally slang gay men invented for their sexual preferences. In Japan, there are multiple terms for being the dominant or receiving roles during sex.

He didn’t call it a western media invention though. Merely stated that it is heavily prevalent in Western media too... ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Also, I think he’s talking about feminine Uke and Masculine Seme, which are the stereotypes prevalent in yaoi, and which are quite problematic in RL!

As a few others have pointed out, I never said that identifying as a top or a bottom was in of itself problematic - what is problematic is expecting a strict adherence to these roles from every queer person, as well as seeing sexuality in such strict binary terms with no wiggle room. What is problematic is people expecting one's preferred sex position to, for some reason, correlate with gender presentation (y'know, that old stereotype of feminine bottoms and masculine tops).

Also, never said it was a "western media invention" - I said it wasn't just in yaoi, since the original poster only directed his statement at "yaoifangirls". Honestly, the terms have probably been around since humans have. The problem only happens when queer sexuality is restricted to only those two things, especially since it tends to come with the weird feeling that I also get when people ask me if I'm the woman in my relationships (No, I'm not. Neither of us is the woman. That is the POINT).

Preach!

Love Mentaiko! May I ask if your name is a reference to Priapus? (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

It's not, actually! But man, now I wish it was... I'm not that clever, though, it's just a WH40K reference that I am probably pretty unqualified to make...