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Recommendations? Titles?

Cleopatra March 17, 2019 1:08 pm

I like to make lists about problematic tropes in yaoi I think and I was thinking that next in line should be one about semes who act straight or are all "no homo bruh" and in general about yaoi couples that are just blatantly super straight yet miraculously go the gay way.

I MEAN, DON'T WE ALL HATE TO LOVE AND LOVE TO HATE THEM?

Suggestions? Recommendations?

Responses
    Stupide-Renard March 17, 2019 1:13 pm

    "no homo bruh" Hidoku shinaide of course. :3

    Bumblebeequeen March 17, 2019 1:30 pm

    Hate it when girls are put down for no reason and just villains for no reason?? Or when the girls are only there to cause unnecessary drama and are just acting so whiny and stupid- tied up in twins

    Cleopatra March 18, 2019 3:46 am
    Hate it when girls are put down for no reason and just villains for no reason?? Or when the girls are only there to cause unnecessary drama and are just acting so whiny and stupid- tied up in twins Bumblebeequeen

    omg yeeeeeah. and they are bullying the uke because somehow his magic butthole skills are making him basically the same with a female heroine. Like WHYYY YOU A WOMAN WHY YOU WRITE ONLY WOMEN U HATE??

    Cleopatra March 18, 2019 3:47 am
    "no homo bruh" Hidoku shinaide of course. :3 Stupide-Renard

    hahah yeah that's the first that came to mind too

    Bumblebeequeen March 18, 2019 7:40 am
    omg yeeeeeah. and they are bullying the uke because somehow his magic butthole skills are making him basically the same with a female heroine. Like WHYYY YOU A WOMAN WHY YOU WRITE ONLY WOMEN U HATE?? Cleopatra

    omgggg sis, when they compare the small fragile uke to a doll or like a girl!!!! And also his beauty is all they care about

    Cleopatra March 18, 2019 6:48 pm
    omgggg sis, when they compare the small fragile uke to a doll or like a girl!!!! And also his beauty is all they care about Bumblebeequeen

    ahahahah I can feel the bond lol
    and then the uke is jealous of all the women around the seme somehow but the seme only is on the look out for predatory tops or something >__> yeah yeah the uke is tooootally not a woman with a penis riiiiiiiight......

    did yaoi literally invent the concept of a feminine penis???? *SHOCK* O_______O

    Bumblebeequeen March 18, 2019 11:11 pm
    ahahahah I can feel the bond lol and then the uke is jealous of all the women around the seme somehow but the seme only is on the look out for predatory tops or something >__> yeah yeah the uke is toooota... Cleopatra

    Or when they call it a pussy I just cannot
    Also sis hate it when one of them says that they’re gay but the other thinks that they want a girl or sum?? Bitch he said he gay!!
    Also ngl incest freaks me out even in fiction it’s very grim but I don’t like the whole step brothers in love ?? Especially when the family separates again and they’re no longer step siblings but still think of themselves as step siblings (love or hate)

    Cleopatra March 19, 2019 3:21 pm
    Or when they call it a pussy I just cannotAlso sis hate it when one of them says that they’re gay but the other thinks that they want a girl or sum?? Bitch he said he gay!!Also ngl incest freaks me out even i... Bumblebeequeen

    "Or when they call it a pussy I just cannot" --> *throws up a little*
    buttholes are never exits in yaoi only entrances lol they are basically vaginas but tighter >_> (sometimes not even lol)

    AHAHA yeeeah the trope of yeaaaah you gay as helllll... but I mean "straight" marriage is a thing all ppl do and want amirit??? although that has a lot to do with Japan's issues with being outspoken about anything "controversial".

    Hmmm I like to (half-ironically) say incest is wincest in fiction lol (I love forbidden love shit) and tbh I don't find incest in real life problematic in itself (like, if it's two consenting adults and they don't have a bunch of kids and everything then meeeh) BUT, the issue with real life incest is that it usually stems from abusive relationships or one person essentially grooming the other, so.... yeah >___> not healthy bruh

    In yaoi it freaks me out if it's normalized, like OH DON'T MIND ME JUST ANOTHER DAY FUCKING MY BROTHER AND ON TUESDAYS IT'S DADDY TIME (which, is a plot of a manga that exists) but if it's put under context then I'm doooown.

    One of my weirdest fantasies was having a threesome with twins (THANKS YAOI) ... then I met real life hot twins and realized that even at the idea if they are "sane" they'd throw up a little in their mouth and felt very stupid lol ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Well I can still secretly get into it and that's where weird yaoi comes into play hahahahahah this is why I love yaoi, it really exposes women's bizarre internalized obsessions, turn ons, fantasies, insecurities, fears, everything.

    Reading comments also always makes me understand on how people think in their time.

    ex: rape tropes are reeeaaaalllyyyy falling out of favour these days when back in the early 2000s it was all the rage really. Women are starting to filter out these weird fantasies they have of being coerced into sex (because a lot of women feel guilty about having sexual fantasies and like the idea of having no responsibility and agency over them, which is what happens if someone forces you in the situation - it makes us enjoy it in a twistedly guilty free way - WHICH, WEIRD, but also explains why all the rape trope manga end up kind of romantisizing or watering down the abuse - women are fucked upppppp).

    OMG WHAT IS THIS WALLTEXT WTF MY NEXT ESSAY IS GONNA BE ABOUT YAOI Y'ALL CAN'T STOP ME and then I'll make it into performance art woohoooo

    Bumblebeequeen March 19, 2019 5:22 pm
    "Or when they call it a pussy I just cannot" --> *throws up a little*buttholes are never exits in yaoi only entrances lol they are basically vaginas but tighter >_> (sometimes not even lol)AHAHA yeeeah... Cleopatra

    Yes sis English essay come throughhh- also I get it, I’ve read so many yaoi mangas which have rape that I’ve become desensitised to it and whenever it comes up I’m like “ooo yay they’re finally gonna get together” which is not something that I should be thinking yanno. I think that whole idea of succumbing to wanton pleasure and desiring these kinds of things are very much so due to women’s own perspective of themselves and their own agency as you said. Though yaoi does give a bad rep to gay relationships in general and doesn’t always show the healthiest way of going bout things

    Cleopatra March 20, 2019 10:36 am
    Yes sis English essay come throughhh- also I get it, I’ve read so many yaoi mangas which have rape that I’ve become desensitised to it and whenever it comes up I’m like “ooo yay they’re finally gonna ... Bumblebeequeen

    yeeeeeah or all the times characters who are actual gays are predators and the main characters are just "poor straight people who fell for each other as an exception to the rule and AGAINST. ALL. ODDS." And you're just sitting there like.... Sure, Jan.

    I mean... people writing yaoi have issues man

    Bumblebeequeen March 20, 2019 1:18 pm
    yeeeeeah or all the times characters who are actual gays are predators and the main characters are just "poor straight people who fell for each other as an exception to the rule and AGAINST. ALL. ODDS." And you... Cleopatra

    Yes deffo, it’s so clearly aimed at females especially straight females just from the narrative frame and how the issues are worked through. Why is it always there’s that exception tho? Swear that rarely happens in rl ffs