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People keep whining about having only hotel dates or what not. Are you blind? The presiden...

Anonymous May 30, 2019 9:12 am

People keep whining about having only hotel dates or what not. Are you blind? The president obviously loved Soohan. The author made it so that he is ALWAYS THERE when Soohan need him the most.

Eventhough they had only hotel dates and no one found out, in the end the wife almost had Soohan KILLED. So what do you think would have happened if the president dated him openly? He already said he was going to divorce his wife. He was even going to give up on his revenge for him. HE WAS GOING TO GIVE UP GOING AFTER HIS MOTHER'S KILLERS for him.

What more do you want for him? The president has showed his remorse countlesss times that evn when he was apparently 'using' soohan he showed that he cared for his talents, he cared for him. The president has always tried to be understanding to Soohan eventho Soohan tried to make him jealous because he knew Soohan missed him. He literally said Soohan can do anything he want in his company for goodness sake..

if it wasn't for the crazy wife, who by the way, KNEW that their marriage is meant to be beneficial financially and repuation-wise only. He would have given up on his marriage, his revenge to be with Soohan. And people are still blaming the president?

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    Luca May 30, 2019 9:54 am

    What about his son? I’m more concerned if the son would have mental problem after being abandoned by his father. And I wasn’t gonna stand up for the wife but the whole situation wouldn’t have happened if Soohan had just given up on another person’s husband. When you’re married, whether it’s for business or for love, you expect your significant other to cherish the relationship and not commit infidelity. Maybe what Soohan and Yoon had was love but it’s also an unhealthy relationship. But then again, I’m still more concerned about the son. It’s usually the children who gets the most backlash when the parents are on bad terms. It’s upsetting how people only cared about the main character, Soohan’s feelings when there’s always cannonfodder who also suffers.

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 10:34 am
    What about his son? I’m more concerned if the son would have mental problem after being abandoned by his father. And I wasn’t gonna stand up for the wife but the whole situation wouldn’t have happened if ... Luca

    "I’m more concerned if the son would have mental problem after being abandoned by his father." My siblings and myself had been abandonned by our father and we don't have mental problem. Sorry to disappoint you.

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 10:41 am
    What about his son? I’m more concerned if the son would have mental problem after being abandoned by his father. And I wasn’t gonna stand up for the wife but the whole situation wouldn’t have happened if ... Luca

    its not his biological son..

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 11:40 am
    What about his son? I’m more concerned if the son would have mental problem after being abandoned by his father. And I wasn’t gonna stand up for the wife but the whole situation wouldn’t have happened if ... Luca

    Oh please. Stop with the BS. What's with your fairytale view of marriage? It was a marriage of CONVENIENCE. Not borne out of love. She KNEW THAT COMING IN. If she expected a proper husband she should have TOLD HIM. If she wanted someone to love her in the end, SHE SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING BEFORE SHE MARRIED.

    But NOPE, both of them went into the marriage KNOWING IT WAS JUST OUT OF CONVENIENCE WORSE MONEY. They went into the marriage knowing It’s NOT FOR LOVE and she wants to get angry?

    Then what happened after that? After knowing the man she caged won’t love her? After HE SAID THAT HE WOULD DIVORCE HER?

    She refused to divorce. Practically caging the man.
    Next, almost HAD SOMEONE KILLED. (Someone who had NO OBLIGATION to her by the way. He was not the married one.)
    She FORCED sungjoon to go on with the revenge eventho HE WANTED TO GIVE UP for Soohan.
    Then what happened when she forced him to continue? He was sent to the MENTAL HOSPITAL. Then she dared to act like she had to sacrifice herself?? Eventho it was HER FAULT that he had to continue because she THREATENED SOOHAN’s LIFE??

    Like I said, I was going to synpathise with her at first. But then she came off as batshit crazy, trying to KILL SOMEONE, practically sending sungjoon to mental
    Go postal and then acting like the victim?

    All this because her Husband did not love her in a marriage that was not one of PROMISES? Nuh uh.

    It’s one thing to whine and whine and whine about the woman. But at least SHOW some understanding of the story before you talk shit. You act like we only sympathise with the main character but YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ARE BLINDLY SIDING WITH THE WIFE just because as you said ‘she’s cannon fodder’ without trying to use some braincells to understand the story.

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 11:42 am
    What about his son? I’m more concerned if the son would have mental problem after being abandoned by his father. And I wasn’t gonna stand up for the wife but the whole situation wouldn’t have happened if ... Luca

    And the whole situation wouldn’t have happened if soohan didn’t go after a married man?

    Lol, PEOPLE GET DIVORCED ALL THE TIME. It was the wife’s own fault for clinging onto someone who wouldn’t love her back. Even at the side story you know that HE WILL NEVER LOVE HER BACK. Yet she wants that.

    All this wouldn’t have happened if she LET GO instead of clinging onto someone who wouldn’t love her back. Who kills someone because of that? Who almost gets someone sent to a hospital because of that? She claims to love him yet she almost killed someone he loved and forced him to continue a revenge EVENTHO HE WANTED TO GIVE IT UP AFTER ALMOST GETTING KILLED IN THAT ACCIDENT.

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 11:45 am
    What about his son? I’m more concerned if the son would have mental problem after being abandoned by his father. And I wasn’t gonna stand up for the wife but the whole situation wouldn’t have happened if ... Luca

    And what BS are you spouting pretending to care about the Son? You’re just insulting single mothers this way. Stop yourself. Do you think it’s not worse to be in a family where the Father would practically hate his mother? Where the Mother is OBSESSED with his father’s love that she obviously doesn’t care about her own safety or her Son? Look at the way, sungjoon wanted to protect both the mother and Son but she didn’t care because she wanted to manipulate sungjoon.

    But good on you, forcing people to be together and not caring about anything else. Lol

    Everanon May 30, 2019 12:27 pm

    Well, to summarise, Soohan is the real bitch here, he seduced Yoon first knowing full well he was married...before the extras it was explained that he knew Yoon was married but still didn't incline Yoon's offer to live with him. Yoon was just trying to help him first because he was struggling in a foreign country with no one to rely on. That's why in that extras he was adamant to sleep with Yoon.. man he was horny and desperate af...and also he never rejected Yoon's buying things for him and shamelessly went back with Yoon in Korea...
    Wheew for a man that feels very undignified, he should have some face...and he also plays victims when he thought Yoon just dumped him, rather than trying to find the problem why Yoon suddenly changed attitude towards him, Soohan just get swept by by Taeyul. This is the first time an MC really left a bad taste for me and I didn't wish for his happiness

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 12:44 pm
    Well, to summarise, Soohan is the real bitch here, he seduced Yoon first knowing full well he was married...before the extras it was explained that he knew Yoon was married but still didn't incline Yoon's offer... Everanon

    Yoon could have rejected him. As far as I know, no one force him to have an affair with Soohan (not even Soohan himself). He is responsible of his cheating.

    Luca May 30, 2019 12:52 pm
    And what BS are you spouting pretending to care about the Son? You’re just insulting single mothers this way. Stop yourself. Do you think it’s not worse to be in a family where the Father would practically ... @Anonymous

    First of all, do reply in a single comment. And second, I have no way of confirming whether your words of you being neglected by your father is true or not so I won’t bother with that out of the context statement since that’s so out of the topic and I don’t care for your sob story. Can you even confirm your statement for all neglected children? You can’t anyway so no use in lingering about that. Third, even if it’s not his biological son, it’s stil his son when you have a relationship with the mother. The son would have expected that he’d have a father now but apparently he’d be disappointed with the fact that his current father also neglected him. This usually happens when the son is only a child. Fourth, there’s multiple cases where children developed mental problems when the parents are not in good terms. Fifth, it’s a marriage for benefits which means that both Yoon and his wife had mutual agreement when signing the marriage contract, that’s also another reason why she refused the divorce. Sixth, Soohan knew that Yoon had a wife but he still cling to a married man in hopes of being his loved one. Seventh, I wasn’t insulting single mothers. I’d be glad if the son would receive parental love from both his father and mother instead of being neglected by either.

    Eight, why don’t you try to calm down and have this discussion in a serene way? I’m not gonna be in a discussion where the other person is being very forceful and offensive. Ninth, I wasn’t trying to completely stand up for the wife. She did wanted to kill Soohan, the person who’s having an affair with her husband. Everyone had their fair share of issues. Tenth, I haven’t even gotten that deep into the issue and you’re already gotten so in depth to the point that you’re accusing me. Eleventh, please do use some brain cells to explain your statement in a more serene way instead of being like a madman by forcefully trying to integrate your statement on someone else. Twelfth, if you think I’m blindly siding with the wife, then you’re blindly siding with Yoon. You’re not even considering his faults and it’s as if you’re putting him on the pedestal. As you continued to ramble correct and incorrect statements about the wife, there was never a reflection of Yoon’s behaviour nor Soohan. Another thing is I’m not siding with the wife, I know she’s a woman who tried to kill her husband’s mistress but that wasn’t my main point. I’m more concerned of the son. Thirteenth, I’m not trying to be in a fight, I prefer a calm discussion so if you are trying to argue here, I’d like to have no part in it unless if you decide to be in your mangago account ofc.

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 1:04 pm
    First of all, do reply in a single comment. And second, I have no way of confirming whether your words of you being neglected by your father is true or not so I won’t bother with that out of the context state... Luca

    "Can you even confirm your statement for all neglected children? ": can you prove that ALL neglected chidren have mental issues ? you can be raised by a single mum and not having mental issues. I have been raised by a single mum and I have no problem. I'm a perfectly fine adult. Stop insulting my mum, my siblings and myself .

    Luca May 30, 2019 1:30 pm
    "Can you even confirm your statement for all neglected children? ": can you prove that ALL neglected chidren have mental issues ? you can be raised by a single mum and not having mental issues. I have been rai... @Anonymous

    First of all, I’ve never stated that ALL neglected children would develop mental problems. I have however stated that there’s a higher risk for them to develop mental issues like depression or anxiety disorder. There’s plenty of such cases on internet, it’s quite easy to search. And I doubt that neglected children have never questioned of their father/mother’s absence despite one parent’s care. And I’d appreciate if you wouldn’t bring your family issues considering that there’s no actual proof of what you’re saying anyway. And tho I doubt you’re a fine adult also considering that you were just forcefully trying to integrate your statement on someone else and was just putting a cheating man on a pedestal without actually doing reflections on his behaviour. And another thing is I’d also appreciate if you stopped the “Stop insulting....” cuz that’s plainly your thoughts on my words which I never meant negatively anyway. To me, this is a rational discussion and in my opinion, all the characters have their own fair share of issues. There’s no victim here excluding the child ofc. Well, unless the author decided to explain the child even further then I guess there’d be context to explore in regards of the child’s situation.

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 2:03 pm
    First of all, I’ve never stated that ALL neglected children would develop mental problems. I have however stated that there’s a higher risk for them to develop mental issues like depression or anxiety disor... Luca

    "First of all, I’ve never stated that ALL neglected children would develop mental problems.":
    ok, so why when someone tells you "I was well raised by my single mum and I have no mental issues" your answer is :" lies"? You also want proofs ! SERIOUSLY ?

    As a "victim" (to use your own word, because I don't think of myself as a victim) of "father"'s neglect, I confirm that not all children have mental issues, but you decide that I'm a liar. Sigh....................

    I know other people who are in my case and are fine adults, and I know people who were raised by both their parents and have mental issues.

    I don't put cheater on a pedestal because my "father" was one of them and that's the reason why he neglected/left us.

    Concerning this story, it's not even his child, and it's not because the author don't show them together that he neglects him.


    Oh, by the way, there are several "Anonymous", it seems I'm not the only who felt insulted by your statement about children abandonned by their "father".

    Luca May 30, 2019 3:06 pm
    "First of all, I’ve never stated that ALL neglected children would develop mental problems.":ok, so why when someone tells you "I was well raised by my single mum and I have no mental issues" your answer is ... @Anonymous

    Again, no actual reply to my statement. I’m not very interested in hearing you bring your story here. I’ve met multiple people who tried to divert attention and gain sympathy from their life story. If you have no discussion left, I’ll leave~. Oh before that, it’s not about being blood-related or not, it’s mainly about a child’s feelings and yea he does neglect them. You just said that he and his wife live separately and that you think they had no relationship whatsoever and his son is under his wife’s care. And if there are several anons, my statements applies to you all too especially the one who said “And what BS are you spouting about pretending to care about his son?” Do make yourself visible. I’d like to advise you to speak in a serene way when trying to counter someone’s statement. And if there are really different anons, why don’t you speak up or at least apply a nickname? It’s quite irritating to speak with someone who doesn’t want to wear an identity.

    I’ll counter each of your statements with my best. I’m also in need of a great discussion where I could talk to someone without a tense atmosphere. It’s boring to hear anyone who speaks out of topic with their life stories or whatnot so I’d appreciate if you try to stay in the topic. Last but not least, it’s not that I dislike Yoon. In fact, the one I dislike the most is Soohan. But anyway, just like I said, everyone have their own issues and their own faults whether it’s Yoon, Soohan, Taeyul or Yoon’s wife. And I do have sympathy for each of them tho back to my main point, I’m still more curious of his son. If there’s no actual reply left, I’m leaving~ Btw, if you feel THAT insulted, I actually meant no harm. It’s merely a statement based on a couple of cases that’s happened throughout life. You also are aware that there’s multiple statements which indicated that neglected children have higher risk in developing mental problems.

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 3:20 pm
    First of all, do reply in a single comment. And second, I have no way of confirming whether your words of you being neglected by your father is true or not so I won’t bother with that out of the context state... Luca

    By the way there are TWO different anons. One is the original poster: me. The other is the person YOU INSULTED by saying abandoned children will have mental issues. Don't put us the same way.

    afroluv May 30, 2019 3:31 pm
    What about his son? I’m more concerned if the son would have mental problem after being abandoned by his father. And I wasn’t gonna stand up for the wife but the whole situation wouldn’t have happened if ... Luca

    The son has a biological father out there as well as his mom. He was never Yoon's responsibility. The elders who set up this paper-only marriage did not require him to have a relationship with the stepson.

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 3:33 pm
    Again, no actual reply to my statement. I’m not very interested in hearing you bring your story here. I’ve met multiple people who tried to divert attention and gain sympathy from their life story. If you h... Luca

    You realise you speak like a child. You literally insulted someone and alot of other people by presuming whether they will have mental issues or not by being abandoned.

    And btw I'm still the first anon. Please use your fucking brain and choose your words wisely.

    "which indicated that neglected children have higher risk in developing mental problems."

    You do not tell people they will have higher risk of having mental problems, you are like a CHILD trying to sound mature but failing BADLY. Stop it. We, adults, can tell when children like you are trying to sound smarter. News flash. You don't. So you can stop now.

    Please look at your words properly again, who are you to say people will have mental problems? You can say they have developmental problems, deep-seated issues, trust issues. But to place it all under 'mental problems' just shows how lacking you are in any knowledge.

    It's obvious that you are simply pretending to care for the child, simply for the fact that you don't like people badmouthing the wife. Or that you want to prove the 'president and Soohan's relationship' as toxic which is PATHETIC at best.

    We are NOT GIVEN ANY info on the president's relationship with seungjae. You can even see that the wife doesn't try to use Seungjae saying 'Seungjae needs his father.'

    This already precludes that they do not have much emotional ties with each other. So UNTIL the AUTHOR actually tells us the true relationship between Seungjae and Sungjoon everything else is HEARSAY. We and YOU cannot conclude what will be best for the child. If Sungjoon is already ABSENT from their life which is assumed by the new extras that shows Sungjoon ALWAYS ALONE and even MOSTLY WITH SOOHAN.

    Then it can only be BETTER for the child that Sungjoon doesn't try to create a bond when he has no feelings for the child or the child's mother.

    Saying all this, once again we have NO IDEA their relationship.

    SO YOU ARE SIMPLY ASSUMING, that every child needs the father. Which IS NOT THE CASE. We DO NOT KNOW THEIR RELATIONSHIP. But to assume EVERY SITUATION IS THE SAME. First with YOUR IDEA OF HOW MARRIAGE SHOULD WORK, or how the 'father' SHOULD STAY WITH THE CHILD NO MATTER WHAT is ridiculous.

    That is NOT THE CASE. It may even be MORE DETRIMENTAL for the child isf Sungjoon stayed. But you don't care, do you? Your solution for Sungjoon to stay simply for the child is so childish. You think with such a black and white mind and your solution is just the same.

    Understand that you can't solve EVERY situation the same way. Once again,

    1) we do not know the relationship between sungjoon and the child
    2) We can't say whether it's better for him to be with the child or not

    What do we know? Sungjoon hasn't been there together with the mother for A LONG TIME. The EXTRAS even show that. EVEN BEFORE Soohan was in the picture, Sungjoon wasn't even staying with his wife and child. He barely talks about his wife or child. His wife barely even brought up the child when negotiating for Sungjoon to come back. All this actually shows that Sungjoon and the child may not be close.


    FORCING them to be together may be worse. The fact that you can't comprehend all that, once again, shows your childlike mindset. Grow up. Not every situation is the same.

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 3:36 pm
    Again, no actual reply to my statement. I’m not very interested in hearing you bring your story here. I’ve met multiple people who tried to divert attention and gain sympathy from their life story. If you h... Luca

    And once again. Please stop trying to sound like an adult. You don't. you literally sound like a child trying to pretend to be an adult by acting sophisticated. I can just imagine you growing up and looking at your own words and being embarrassed. Stop it. I literally cringe reading your paragraphs.

    Adults do not sound like that, kid. Kids trying to wear grown-up pants sound like that. You need to stop. I even read your reply to the other anon above 'If you want to have a discussion with my, I'll gladly.' god I never cringed so hard. People can read that this is not a normal writing style for you. Stop it. For your own sake, not mine.

    You sound embarrassing.

    Anonymous May 30, 2019 3:41 pm
    Again, no actual reply to my statement. I’m not very interested in hearing you bring your story here. I’ve met multiple people who tried to divert attention and gain sympathy from their life story. If you h... Luca

    You are embarrassing. Let's leave it at that. And please stop telling people that they or children will have 'mental problems'. That's really insulting. I know you do not know that yet because you're a child but we do not go around telling others that others may get 'mental problems.' When you grow older, you will know the proper words to use to show that certain things can be DETRIMENTAL to people but don't go around using 'mental problems' as blanket statements. We do not even say that those with depression has 'mental problems' because it's INSULTING. Same as saying 'that person is mental.' Which once again, I know you won't understand. So please at least know the difference and never say that again.

    And maybe look away from the internet once in awhile. You need some growing up to do.

    Rai-taka May 30, 2019 3:41 pm

    People here sounds like they’re on drugs

    Luca May 30, 2019 3:45 pm
    You are embarrassing. Let's leave it at that. And please stop telling people that they or children will have 'mental problems'. That's really insulting. I know you do not know that yet because you're a child bu... @Anonymous

    Hmm you don’t have anything to counter my statements so you resort to giving me advice? You sure need some growing up to do. Literally not interested in replying to your sob stories. Adios~