For the people who think Nakyum can have a happy&healthy relationship with Seungho

Once Nakyum realizes learned sir is a grasping, manipulative poser rather than an idealized father figure/role model, he will be desperate for a replacement attachment figure. He has a trauma bond with Seungho, which is similar to stockholm syndrome. He will need to idealize Seungho as he previously idealized learned sir. Which means idealizing his own pain amd suffering as something beautiful and pleasurable (bdsm) and feel gratitude to Seungho for inflicting the torture. If you saw the series Outlander, there was a similar dynamic between Captain Jonathan Randall and Laird Jamie Frazier. http://besttvcharacters.com/the-best-outlander-characters/

I think it will happen after his learned Sir betrayed his trust and seeing Seungho in pain will lead him to care...

I personally don't think that Nakyum will fall in love with Seung ho. I feel like the author is taking a different route than the usual victim falls for victimizer after character development. Even after Nakyum finds out that Inhun is a shady selfish hypocrite, he still will not turn his eyes towards Seung ho. The answer to me is in this scene: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/yahwacheop/uu/yahwacheop-chapter-2/8/
the part where he says "Still, I thought he'd be more dignified. I should have known. All the nobles are noble only in appearance." Meaning he has the lowest opinion of Seung ho. If Inhun falls from his pedestal, he will not have anyone else to look up to as a representation of dignity. Also, this scene on ch28: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/yahwacheop/uu/ibx_chapter-28/pg-8/ - with the mirror and how terrified he looks after he sees the reflection of himself been embraced by Seung ho. Nakyum thinks he is filthy for the paintings he creates and for his sexual preference. Seung ho is a representation of everything he hates about himself.
This new development with the mirror is going to make it even worse for Nakyum. For Nakyum the idea of seeing himself doing those things with a person he considers filthy is torture. There is no way Nakyum will fall for Seung ho even after he changes (if that even happens)

I feel like (just thinking out loud) Yoon needs to fall (get broken) break his pride/arrogance, something profound happens to him, and Nakyum can see him weak/vulnerable he may be able to see Yoon as just a regular human man and not this untouchable larger than life noble. Once broken Yoon may be able to grow gentler, grow as a character. Then Nakyum may be able to understand and come to forgive him for what he has done. I see Yoon as a character that has closed himself off completely from everyone else. I feel like (wishful thinking maybe or reading too deeply into some of the story's details) he has been hurt very deeply and that has twisted him into this mean, violent man incapable of love or affection. And these kinds of characters sometimes become so mean precisely bc they were once so gentle and naive and pain then warps them. characters like these can be redeemed and often all it takes is something so small like affection from another living person. And I can see Nakyum perhaps being the one person who reaches out to him when he is at his weakest/lowest. (Kind of Beauty and the Beast maybe?) I'm just rambling. Maybe I'm totally wrong and Yoon is just an asshole.

This is beautiful in it's own way! I love dark dynamics like this but it's not healthy whatsoever. I'm asking how it can turn into a healthy dynamic as well because people want them to make up and be together. How can it be healthy and happy.

Don't get me wrong I'm that boat of ppl who wouldn't mind a dark and complex dynamic between Nakyum and Seungho (now I am moreso in that boat lol) but I'm talking to people who seem to think they can make up and start over and forgive their past interactions. I'm asking how Na could get to that point, not how Seungho can make him but how will he get over his own trauma personally?

Definitely going to look that show up tho sounds interesting >>

See that's that "It just takes a good woman to save him" type shit. That's a very harmful trope that needs to die imo. It doesn't allow the characters to grow on their own and it's rather predictable writing. An abusive man will almost certainly have a tragic past but we need to stop thinking those people can be cured by love. It's a myth and since Byeon seems to be going after some semblance of realism I don't think they will have Seungho be cured by love. He needs to work through his baggage on his own and shouldn't have Na as an award for doing it. If something profound happens to him it should be his journey alone to work through, affection from another is not enough.

Especially since they said Na and Seungho will be happy in their own way. That makes me feel like they would want most of their big developments to happen separately. I agree that Na would sympathize with him and would probably see him as more of an equal if he were more vulnerable but why should he love Seungho? Why would they go the unrealistic route of love curing trauma (on both sides) when the author has been pretty honest so far? Not saying it's impossible, just seems like a weird turn after everything that's happened.

Plus, again, no one's talking about how difficult it would be for Na to be intimate (romantically or sexually) with someone who has inflicted trauma on him. If he somehow became more open and decided he was okay with Seungho how could they touch each other and be truly open emotionally? How can Na trust Seungho after everything? Y'all saying how Seungho will change but what after that? Seungho's ways won't just disappear after he's been that way most of his life, what then?

Sorry for the million questions but with a realistic story like this it wouldn't make sense for them to suddenly be trusting and loving towards each other. There would be A LOT to work though.

btw you should check out this video on abusive dynamics in fiction, very eye opening imo and some of the dynamics remind me of NaHo so much (they mention Beauty and the Beast too) it's called "Abduction as Romance":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8xL7w1POZ0

Like C0rmack said, why would he accept someone he never liked nor respected? Yea Na is a softie but how will he get over his own inner turmoil to fall in love with Seungho? I agree that he's capable of forgiving Seungho don't get me wrong. I actually look forward to them possibly having closure, closure happens all the time between victims and perpetrators. I think that would be ideal but--

Romance is a whole 'nother /level/. Say Seungho starts treating him gently, why should Nakyum trust that he's being real when he's snapped on Na before after showing him affection. He literally gives Nakyum pleasure and affection then turns around and abuses him. How would Nakyum then start trusting that his actions are real?

And again, why does Seungho automatically deserve the same man he victimized just because he realize he's an abusive and unstable man? Why should Nakyum be abused then turn around and help Seungho heal? That's such an overdone plot device and tbh I can't see Byeon doing the typical "A bigger asshole makes the other asshole look good" route.

I think it's possible for learned Shit's betrayal to bring them together but who's says it won't develop into an abusive relationship? Well actually it's already an abusive dynamic, who's saying that won't continue even if Seungho starts to open up and be vulnerable? Will that change years and years of his toxic behavior in such a short time? Will Nakyum SURVIVE trying to change him?

Actually, that would be an interesting (if painful) route for the story to go lol

Tbh, I also don't know how the author could transform their relationship into a healthy one. I can only think of the overuse trope of "changing because of love", which it will make me kinda disappointed if the author decides to choose that path.

In my opinion, it will depend on the future interactions ,beside sex, between them. After all, Nakyum returned to help his teacher, basically becoming his spy, so he'll have to find a way to gain Seungho's trust, cause I doubt he's going to find a lot information just by having sex with him. Seungho might be horny, but he's not stupid.

you're right abt the abusive rls. their rls wont be a healty one ...

I was only posing one kind of scenario that could result in a more or less happy ending for both of them within the constraints of this story. This is not grounded in reality and I really do see it as a modified beauty and the beast. At the end of the day if I have to look at this

Realistically then no, Yoon should be arrested and Nakyum should look for a healthy relationship with someone in a balanced psychological state. Through suspension of disbelief, I am able to read and enjoy this story when otherwise I would be horrified. I'm not going to debate abusive relationship dynamics. I mean beauty and the beast is foundationally one of the most messed up classic stories of all time primarily because of the laundry list of psychological problems however it is also one of my favorites regardless. The scenario I mentioned would only work in fiction and would only be acceptable because this is a work of fiction.

Although like I said earlier my comments are just me thinking about the topic question. The only way I can see Nakyum come to care for Yoon is through a beauty and the beast style trope, overused or not. Otherwise I do not see a mutual relationship being possible.

okay I get it. That is possible, I personally don't think Byeon would do that but you're definitely right that it's a possible outcome. Sorry I misinterpreted