Your Translator Here to Explain Something...

thank you for translating and providing additional source material. However the issue is the entire plot is pandering to a heteronormative audience and more importantly reads as performance activism to feed their need to exclaim so to speak "I have black friends too" i can't be racist. The plot is about a gay man who's relationship with a fujoshi girl allows him to accept parts of himself, the same girl who still cannot understand the difference between acceptance and "understanding". In fact we have an entire scene of her doing just that, by taking on the role of his savior by explaining to others how she sees gay people in such a tone deaf way. Or someone as homophobic and prejudice as a character like Ono getting to piggy back the opportunity to insinuate his "acceptance" gives value to Andou through the opinion of his peers. it's all down in poor taste. I understand the author's intention and given Asia especially Japan's negative views on homosexuality but ability to profit from it, it's the best i can hope for.

You're welcome, I do try ┗( T﹏T )┛

The manga makes this a more approachable story is the easiest way I can describe this. In the novel, we have one outlook: Jun. It's grim, gritty, and overall disturbing how he thinks. The author really captures his mental disturbance. However, this chapter is through the eyes of Miura in order for the reader to realize a bit of themselves in her. It isn't heternormative I'd argue...more like, trying to make it relatable so they can see their own being inside of her .Only then can the story take you on its final moments to truly get down to business.

Maybe to some this seems to be in poor taste, but I can only look at yaoi and wonder: is this in bad taste because its meant to be taken realistically? Because there are a lot more problems in that field than here as the author tries to explore topics most do not dare to touch in Japan. Putting yourselves in a Japanese person shoes shows that the reaction from the crowd and the push for him to kiss her is exactly what would've happened. Jun and Miura knew they couldn't escape it, and while they didn't mind it, it's something that should've never happened in a public setting. Like Jun says,"How can they simplify the world with such dumbfounded optimism?"

And I understand that point and the context but it all faults to Miura’s “good intentions”. She just does not understand Jun or at all what his reality is. But that’s framed as charming and her attempt of forgiveness when if this was in any way “ realistic” exponentially more dangerous. Jun had already attempted suicide for such an outing from Ono but it’s both Ono and Miura’s acceptance that is portrayed as Jun’ s life line. All of it is insulting if you actually look at from a queer perspective. Her grand gesture solidified that regardless of the crowds reaction.

I'm not arguing this was the smartest thing she did...Ono made it worse himself too. But as you said, it was Miura's "good intentions" to utilize the stage she won as something to fight for Jun's good name. This is how she saw to put an end to the rumors. It probably worked, but as a consequence the two have yet to establish what their relationship truly is. Hopefully everyone here will feel better about this with the final three chapters...if they stick along for it, that is. We're so close Σ( ￣□￣||)

I think a problem some are having is we are looking at this from the view point of the West. While LBGTQ people still face prejudice here, they are more accepted here then in the East. So when we see a sexual orientation being represented this way we tend to say and think how bad that girl is how she outed him and forced her feelings on to him. We dont think about it always from how in that part of the world were it might not be illegal but homosexuality is still looked at like something to overcome. Heck even in the US many still think its something one can overcome and get married and have a happy family. Its not like that for those people and i think as much as we hate to admit it alot of people who are LGBTQ have at one point and time thought the same thoughts as the MC. Heterosexual girls have fallen in lust with a homosexual boy and wished that they liked them in return but know that wont happen. The same thing happens between heterosexual people and homosexual people. "I like this person but they dont like me. Why cant they just like me?" I did find this chapter a bit hard to read but i understood where it was coming from and until we have the entire work i dont think this will make sense.

Yes, yes and yes! Context is extremely important here. I know there are faults to it, but unlike my other series "Until I Meet My Husband", this is still fiction. Nevertheless, it brings a lot of important issues for an Asian demographic and while it is not noticeable now, once all the chapters are released I feel (hoping) people can be able to piece together all the pieces to the puzzle and find the messages the author sprinkles throughout.

Glad to see you liked my response. I was afraid it wouldnt make sense since i wrote almost right after waking up and not having coffee yet. That and i forgot to reread to mame sure it made sense. Lol

Basically virtue signaling

that's what i've gathered. I appreciate the translator's opinion and them even providing this material to read, but i just honestly find this plot disingenuous for many reasons. Maybe it's my bias and my lived experienced as a Western queer poc, but I'm left with the impression Asian,Japanese, queer people can only experience misery, partake in pedophilia, or must be "saved" based off this plot. Moreso when I read "Authentic" asian queer narratives in this genre in general. And when many authors do attempt to break these stereotypes it is done with a lack of understanding of how this comes across to actual queer people as harmful or there only options in life, ex. kill your gays.Though there are outliers with wonderful depictions warts and all. I can't speak on behalf of the author themself as some as suggested they are a queer man, but this plot reads to me in the same league of BrokeBack Mountain or Call me by Your Name there's clearly something great here but the all problematic elements are just ignored in favor of the grand narrative. There needs to be some sort of self awareness when writing these sort of plots because of how little queer representation there is at it stands. Andou's experience as a gay young man is completely valid as is the real men who face his reality everyday. I just wish the author went the route of creating real allies or real self realizations that did not really on heteronormativity or if not having Andou start make those realizations that his actions/thoughts are his own cage. I just feels personally like he's going backwards rather than forwards in a way a lot of partially closeted men rationalize such as Andou's older lover. And because this plot is framed in accordance to an audience that regularly fetishizes the lived experienced of queer men, it comes across in part as a self insert with Mirua meant to make us feel good that there is someone to champion Andou through it all, rather than Andou personally casting off his victimhood even with what little character strength he may possess. This isn't even about him necessarily having to be openly gay to be "happy", it's that his happiness does not have to be tied to his actual queerness. At least in that way I enjoyed Mr. fahrenheit because he a foil that juxtaposes this very idea to our main.

and despite Mr. Fahrenheit's death, it's the option of choosing personal happiness despite the limitations is my point. But i acknowledge this form of "final happiness" is a moot point given the character's motivations and circumstance.