?? i think it has more to do with the character being emotional, and therefore sometimes irrational, rather than a gender thing. i mean u just said people hate him for being stupid, so obviously those ppl dont consider him a cinnamon role?
One half thinks the other uke is a stupid uke bastard who abandoned his baby and the dad. The other half forgives the uke for everything because, that’s just the way he was brought up.
Reminds me of the situation here. Half of readers think the uke cries too much and way too easily. The other thinks it’s ok because of his trauma. Personally, I think had he been a shoujo heroine with boobs, he would not have been so easily forgiven, let alone being considered a ‘cinnamon roll’.
Lol the sexism and misogyny in BL is the stuff of legends.
so u think rather than it being 50/50, if he was a girl, most readers would dislike him for crying?
i think its not totally black and white. i mean, its possible that an MC that cries a lot is more common in shoujo, so ppl that read shoujo may be tired of that trope. i don't think "crybaby" MCs are as common in BL, so people are more lax towards it. i mean most of the time i see the ukes cry in a manga its just during sex lol. but i could be wrong. i mean, most people that read shoujos are girls, so i just wonder why they would be so judgmental against their own gender?
or maybe its less that they are hateful of women and more that they infantilize gay people? like "ooh he's a wittle baby he doesnt know any better"? idk haha. i dont really disagree with you! i do agree ppl tend to be more forgiving to men being emotional and dont treat them like they're hysterical bc its "that time of the month" -_-
also why do u keep bringing up boobs lol?
The boobs are totally a thing lol. Go to any female/shoujo work, see a schoolgirl heroine crying over something similar, can’t share to Yamato what’s bothering her, get sexed up and watch the readers get annoyed and flame her to bits. Here, he has a schlong (as hard as it is to believe) and becomes everyone’s fav cinnamon roll. All is ok, I’m just commenting on what I see.
This reminds me of Love Is Not An Illusion all over again. Half the readers hated the uke there for being stupid (middle of series), the other half defended him cos of his apparently sad tragic background and all.
Makes you wonder if Hozumi would’ve still been considered a “cute cinnamon roll” if he had been a 17 yr old teenage girl with boobs and a vagina who cries all the time, especially over Yamato. Yeah, I figured not.