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tactician

Seri_na October 18, 2020 6:11 pm

I kinda wish she could go for the tactician dude for once and not the pre-teen incel emo wannabe type. He's nice. Got a cool job. Easy to communicate. Respect her and he looks like an actual adult. >_>

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    Soonanoodle October 18, 2020 7:43 pm

    accidental dislike but yeah I agree

    shober October 31, 2020 11:50 pm

    She did say she's asexual so she's definitely not ending up with anyone unless the author is a huge aphobic jerkass and I doubt it because there's clearly sensitivity shown towards LGBT+ people

    Seri_na November 1, 2020 2:02 am
    She did say she's asexual so she's definitely not ending up with anyone unless the author is a huge aphobic jerkass and I doubt it because there's clearly sensitivity shown towards LGBT+ people shober

    She said she's considering herself asexual because she never felt anything ''special'' toward someone. That doesn't mean she is. Also even if she's asexual she can still date and love someone.

    shober November 1, 2020 10:52 am
    She said she's considering herself asexual because she never felt anything ''special'' toward someone. That doesn't mean she is. Also even if she's asexual she can still date and love someone. Seri_na

    Actually in japan the term "asexual" refers to aroace people. romantic asexual people are called "nonsexual".
    it would be pretty asshole of the author if they wrote an asexual woman and basically have her "grow out of it" and end up being a straight so i don't think they'd do that

    Seri_na November 1, 2020 5:01 pm
    Actually in japan the term "asexual" refers to aroace people. romantic asexual people are called "nonsexual".it would be pretty asshole of the author if they wrote an asexual woman and basically have her "grow ... shober

    The author is not the one translating the manga. For all we know its the person that translated it that didn't use the right word or expression.

    Melzinhamj November 24, 2020 11:19 am

    I totally agree, I don't get why in shoujos mangas they always prefer the most unusual ship, love is also strategy...

    NekoLoka November 24, 2020 1:20 pm
    Actually in japan the term "asexual" refers to aroace people. romantic asexual people are called "nonsexual".it would be pretty asshole of the author if they wrote an asexual woman and basically have her "grow ... shober

    Perhaps the author has studied about most sexualities, and is trying to teach to their japanese readers that being asexual doesn´t mean that you cannot fall in love (Honestly, it is very sad that Japan associates so much romance with sex in such an oppressive way).

    NekoLoka November 24, 2020 1:22 pm

    The downside of dating a strategist is that they do not usually respect your opinion, they act like they respect you and agree with you when in reality they plan a long-term strategy for you to give in to them (Then they go from being "strategists" to "manipulators" XD).

    shober November 24, 2020 4:56 pm
    Perhaps the author has studied about most sexualities, and is trying to teach to their japanese readers that being asexual doesn´t mean that you cannot fall in love (Honestly, it is very sad that Japan associa... NekoLoka

    Again, "asexual" in japan is aroace, alloace people are "nonsexual". It's two different words and they don't use the split attraction model like Western queer community do, so there isn't any overlap. Aroace people cannot fall in love.

    If Kiryuu was able to experience romantic feelings, I honestly think she would know by now, and her friend also tells her that she might be "asexual/aroace".

    Also it isn't only japan who associates romance with sex, it's literally every culture in the world.

    NekoLoka November 24, 2020 6:16 pm
    Again, "asexual" in japan is aroace, alloace people are "nonsexual". It's two different words and they don't use the split attraction model like Western queer community do, so there isn't any overlap. Aroace p... shober

    I don't think you get my point.
    If Japan thinks that being asexual makes you automatically aro that doesn´t remove the fact that there are asexuals who aren´t aro, it is simply a wrong idea not to say that they are excluding the idea that romance and sex don´t go hand in hand, perhaps the author wants to teach japanese readers that there are many types of specters and sexualities.
    And it seemed to me that the protagonist is only talking about experience, perhaps she changes her mind or perhaps it turns out that she is demisexual (which is also an asexual sexuality), and since she hadn´t fallen in love before, she didn´t know.
    PS: In my opinion, this sexuality isn´t something that you decide once and cannot change again in your life, rather it is a process of self-discovery while you grow up, and you can surprise yourself (In the same way that something that you liked when you were young and you don't like when you are older and vice versa).
    In these things you have to be flexible and not too hard on yourself.

    shober November 24, 2020 8:33 pm
    I don't think you get my point.If Japan thinks that being asexual makes you automatically aro that doesn´t remove the fact that there are asexuals who aren´t aro, it is simply a wrong idea not to say that the... NekoLoka

    I don't think you understand me either. What I'm saying is that JAPANESE AND WESTERN LGBT CULTURE DONT USE THE SAME TERMINOLOGY. The Japanese equivalent of asexuals who aren't aro are NONSEXUALS (非性愛), which is different from the Japanese term ASEXUAL (無性愛) which ONLY refers to aroace people. UNLIKE WESTERN CULTURE WHERE BOTH ORIENTATIONS GO UNDER 'ASEXUAL', THEY DO NOT OVERLAP IN JAPANESE CULTURE.

    I know that sexuality is fluid, but it is not fluid for everyone and can send harmful messages when portraying the idea of fluidity. Imagine writing a lesbian protagonist and she ends up with a man in the end. She could be discover she's bi, but it honestly really reeks of erasure and sends the idea that being a same-sex attraction is a 'phase'. Same applies to asexuality.

    Seri_na November 24, 2020 9:49 pm
    I totally agree, I don't get why in shoujos mangas they always prefer the most unusual ship, love is also strategy... Melzinhamj

    Because that's the demographic they target. Its the same in a lot of webtoon/manga or even asian video game. Looking like a teen is somehow more popular for most reader than the mature type. Also if she doesn't want the tactician. i'll take him. >_>

    NekoLoka November 25, 2020 5:22 pm
    I don't think you understand me either. What I'm saying is that JAPANESE AND WESTERN LGBT CULTURE DONT USE THE SAME TERMINOLOGY. The Japanese equivalent of asexuals who aren't aro are NONSEXUALS (非性愛), wh... shober

    In my opinion, it seems to me that you perceive it that way.

    cherii March 7, 2021 5:42 pm

    i wouldnt call him an incel lol hes just misunderstood for his rbf

    nayuta March 7, 2021 10:54 pm
    Actually in japan the term "asexual" refers to aroace people. romantic asexual people are called "nonsexual".it would be pretty asshole of the author if they wrote an asexual woman and basically have her "grow ... shober

    I truly hope this is not gonna happen. I also like that she’s self reflected and still self reflecting without just continually being ‚swept away‘ by the, uh how to say, typical romance plot of general manga? AND what sells it for me is that she’s really missing those ‚cues‘ because she’s plainly just not feeling the / thinking about/ in sexual innuendo some of her actions have or others might have towards her (which also makes her suspicious of others intentions and put her a bit on edge) the manga is really interesting and absolutely refreshing.