Okai. Tbh we can’t consider this rape. Obviously Junho could fight back even in “this ...

I think about it too for a while now...

Probably because of the novelty of having sex with a man, and Kang make he cum and moan like crazy. Tbh, this comic would have been better without that kind of blackmail

It missed a chance ╮(￣▽￣)╭

the novelty? I think that Junho is gradually realizing he's a homosexual. If it was a novel experience, he would maybe like it once. That would agree with your idea of the novelty of having sex with a man. However, as a rule, straight men do not enjoy regular sex with other men. If Junho was not gay, he would not be going along with the sex. He would be half out of his mind by now and it would be clear to anyone how stressed he would be. He certainly wouldn't be fantasizing about having sex with Lee Kang.
They're lovers. They just don't know it.
Junho is very homophobic. Without the events of this story, he would still be homophobic, so I can't agree that the story would be better w/o the blackmail. There wouldn't be a story without the rape and blackmail

707 you really don't understand the reason? Junho is sexually attracted to Lee Kang. If you believe that the rape is the worst thing on earth, that Junho suffered and felt tortured and it ruined his life, you'd be way off. sorry. The reason is simple: They like having sex with each other. Neither of them want anyone else. To both of them, it feels good with this lover, better than any other lover.. Sexually active people know this.

Sorry, Junho may not be gay. He was dating a woman before, so it's possible that he's Bisexual. And to be honest, this one would be the First time that they really have sex. Do not fool yourself, Junho was blackmailed and raped before now. This is the first time that Junho has given a modicum of "consent", even if not properly spoken, so It can still be novelty for him.
You are oversimplifying a couple of things when you say that Junho "enjoyed sex". The act of Junho "enjoying" It could be a selfdefense mechanism so he can cope with the reality of being raped multiple times. Yes, physiologically he may have enjoyed, but I would remind you that one of the reasons that people can't press charges after being raped is BECAUSE their body enjoyed It, they felt guilty because they "enjoyed" and think they deserved It. And, honestly, half out of his mind? Have you talked about that subject with people that have been raped? I assure that you know a few of them, even If they never admitted It, and most of them were abused by their families too.
They are not lovers. Do not romanticize rape. Junho has been dominated since the beginning. He did not agree with being dominated, therefore he didn't give consent, hence he was raped. His life, career, college, his everything was put in jeopard because Lee Kang has a kinky in breaking others.
Yes, Junho is a homophobic bastard, but that was still no reason to rape him, and that's exactly what Lee Kang did.
"There wouldn't be a story without the rape and blackmail". For you to say something like that, I can only think that you haven't read or studied enough. There are tons of stories that ppl are homophobic and still end together. Even If you go to "wattpad" you will see a few hundreds there, but good luck finding the good ones, hahaha.
Lee Kang have so much backstory that It wasn't remotely necessary to use the rape trope.

you certainly have a good act worked out and carefully 'researched" but put it all down to a bunch of theories and stuff sex educators taught you in school. you might as well start from scratch because those people are full of it for too many reasons to explain here.
--Bisexual is a bullshlt category. Translated it says, "hello, gay man, I want to fu*ck around with your feelings with no strings attached, and when it's over I'm going back to women. These people are heteroxuals who want to experiment around with their high sex drive, and they want to road it on gay men. Try going to a gay bar and saying you're bisexual. Good luck. Gay men can't stand "bisexuals" for good reasons.
Now you actually know something that isn't a half-baked theory.
Junho is gay. bisexual is a dumbass catch-all category that pretty much has no real members.

I'm not a patient person, and I'm a little tired of your group of preachy people who think they know it all but have no real experience.
LOL "Do not fool yourself." haha. You sure speak with authority. Thing is, I'm not buying it.
Their relationship is a lot more complex than thinking it's legitimate to say he was raped and blackmailed many times. bullshlt. The line is loaded with shades of gray. jesus. fire yourself.

Consent is a load of heinous, reckless ideas that post-feminists and the rest of the unethical teachers drove it into your brain They ought to be fired. They taught you something as fact. Truth is, they were experimenting on you. The ideas you were taught as ways to prevent rape have never been tested in society. You're the shock troops, and I hope you wake up soon to what was done to you: indoctrination. You were used.
--Every single thing you're saying about the psychology of rape victims is based on women, not men. Men's feelings are different in every way from women's, so fire yourself again as a purveyor of truth. You don't know jack about how a man would internalize a rape experience.

Don't misunderstand me please. I'm saying he'd have run out of patience with the situation, not the rape. It has almost nothing to do with LK raping him except that he would have been tired of it to the point of taking an axe to Lee kang's head,LOL He's not all that affected by the rape. This is a fictional story, and him acting like a rl rape victim would not service the plot, and anyway that's not what's happening here. The two men have a strong sexual connection. It would be pointless to get a female rape victim's take on it. How can you not see how irrelevant female rape victims are to this story?
I'm not speaking for women. I'm speaking for men.
Save the deaf ears stuff. I like and am turned on by some rape in fiction. I find it romantic and hot. It's covered under freedom of expression under the bill of rights so good luck telling anyone they shouldn't create fiction with rape as an element. You might as well tell it to the wind.

This story wouldn't exist without the rape and blackmail. It's integral and the author has the right to create her own plot without your or anyone's interference. We are discussing art not text books to be passed out in grade school. Just because other authors don't include rape in their stories doesn't mean this author's expression should be invalidated.
--I don't like the condescending tone you're using so I feel no need to be polite. However, if I niced all this up, you'd probably consider at least some of what I said. I'm fed up with all the bullshlt, and I don't like to mince words with someone who thinks they know everything

You sure made a lot of assumptions there, and even got so far as assuming that I'm someone whom assumes knowing everything, hahaha. You wrote that long reply thinking that I was a kid/teenager that was replying here using "Common Sense"? "Indocrination"?
My reply was made because I studied human behavior, rape, contingencies, trauma and the like, since my major was psychology. I'm not a teenager, I'm more than 25 years(i'm saying this because I don't want to say my real age), and I'm a man too and know very well what a man may have felt after being raped. I never said anything about women, you were the one that assumed It. All I said was directed to men.

What you may have thought was condescencion, was in reality my rational thought applied to the problem in question. I almost never assume that I'm better than others, and I never assume that I know more in a philosophical discussion.

If you think "consent" is a lot of heinous ideas, what do you think is the real difference between modern slavery and work? Rape and sex? Torture and BDSM?
Your whole reply was made using your "common sense" with the basis that I'm a child.

And yes, the author is entitled to create her work as she (or he, lol) deem fit, I never said she wasn't. The same way she has a right to create her work, I too have a right to dislike certain aspects of It. I'm under no obligation to defend a messy plot, rape for the sake of showing naked bodies or how they rationalize rape. Yes, rape is "integral" in this work, but that doesn't mean the author was capable of working the idea right. Same as a student may receive a poor grade after writing a bad essay, she may be on the receiving end of poor reviews because of a messy plot. That's it. I do think she could have worked the idea better. I'm not against rape scenes, i Just dislike How they try to justify and work with It, because they almost never do a good work.

Do Not Insult the Author.
If you say you're a psychology major it means that you're still in school. So don't blame the misunderstanding on me. It's logical to assume you're under 22 years old.
it's your subjective opinion that the writing is sloppy and deserving of a possible bad review. I like the way she worked the idea very much. She created something different. She pushed the limits, and she is under no obligation to present rape accurately as in real life rape. There is no right way to work the idea. Jeez, you should have known I'd throw that one back at you.
There's no justification of rape in this story. Talk about assuming.
Consent is conjecture never tested among any human population. It was created and then spoon fed to school children as absolute truth. I'm opposed to that practice. Educators should not be experimenting with social models on suggestable children. When the results of their experiment are clearly understood, I believe they will be responsible for a disaster. a very bad one.

As a rule I don't use the term "common sense." I don't find it in anything I said here. Can you point out where I said it?

No matter your credentials, yours is the common view, it's been repeated here ad nauseum, and it's tiresome, so I hope you don't mind me saying that I don't plan to spend a lot of time on it. I've already thought deeply on these issues. I hope, however, that you'll at least think about my view

But I never insulted the author? Even If I said that I disliked something, that wasn't necessarily a personal attack, unless I said something as atrocious as "i do not like Black/asian/indian ppl". That's just an example.

Saying that something was sloppily written wasn't a personal attack. Should we act as a bad grade in an essay as a personal attack?
I like her (I use her because it's easier for me, lol. I do not know the author's gender) art. Does that mean that I'm defending the author?
I like how she drew so many emotions in each of her panels. Does that mean that I'm defending her?
I do not like how she depicts rape. One, she is far from reality (and that's ok. You also said that she isn't under obligation to make It seems real). Two, it's a form of romanticizing rape. Three, I'm fed up with amazing art being almost completely destroyed because some authors chose to work with rape (or trauma or "mental disorders") and ruined their works, because they didn't try and research the subject before writing about it(i'm not saying it's her case. I haven't read the whole comic yet). She can draw as she deems fit, it's her prerogative, but it's my prerogative to like It or not. Does any of that means that I'm insulting her?
I think she could have done a better job with the blackmail/rape thing or avoided It completely. Does that mean that I'm attacking her?

Reviews, in essence, use your subjective opinion. Even when doing scientific research you will be unable to free yourself of subjective thinking, since you are a human being trying to interpret data using your view on the subject, though some author's try to deny/minimize that aspect of research. But I digress.

"Common Sense" as I said there was the act of interpreting reality without using a systematic study. Such as "oh, the Earth is the Center of the universe" and the like. Such things doesn't stand scrutiny. I may not be able to explain myself correctly now. English isn't my native language (and It should be pretty obvious after so many mistakes in my replies lol), and it can be hard to explain some philosofical arguments even in your native language lol.

Let's take another subject as a possible example of "Common Sense". You said that bisexuality doesn't exist. Let's assume that that's true, which author or study you are using as a reference? Where is your data? Was said study reviewed by peers?
Now, i'm not saying that I want you to send me the data, thesis, scientific paper and the like here. I'm asking If you have a systematic study behind what you said.
What you said as an example was that If I didn't believe you, I should go to a gay bar and say that I'm bisexual, and they won't like me because of It, because bisexuality is a catchall category.
Now, i'm not saying that bisexuality is a true category or not.
In the past, thousand, Million of people Said that Earth was the center of the universe. Some people were burned at the stake because they voiced their disagreement. Now, after scientific studies about It, the "Common Sense" was disproved. Did It matter that millions voiced their agreement that Earth was the Center of the universe?

When I said that I didn't use "Common Sense" when I was replying to you, I meant that It had a systematic study behind It (then I told you about contingencies, human behaviour, etc).

Don't misunderstand my reply, please. I never tried to be condescending in any of my sentences, lol. It's Just hard to have a philosophical debate, it's harder when it's not in your Native language, and It can be tricky to explain your point of view in the correct way. Know that I never meant to disrespect lol

YOU: she may be on the receiving end of poor reviews because of a messy plot. YOU: I'm under no obligation to defend a messy plot, rape for the sake of showing naked bodies or how they rationalize rape - insulting the author

Gay men can't stand "bisexuals" for good reasons. They are people who want to experiment around with sex, and they want to road test it on gay men. It's like saying, "hello, gay man, I want to fu*ck around with your feelings with no strings attached." No one wants to have themselves used as a test subject for someone who just wants to test their sexuality. Gay men have feelings, too.

It makes me angry that I would need to explain this again because you not only refuse to understand, but also to repeat back what I said by arranging it as if I'd spoken some ridiculous disjointed nonsense.

you say this by tiptoeing around so you can claim it was "maybe" but it's insulting and I think you know it. You don't know the structure or the difficulties of constructing a serialized story. I don't think you have any idea. If you did you would treat this author's plot construction with more dignity, kindness, and acceptance that you don't know the craft or the industry well enough to so harshly judge.