THANK YOU, Lightasus! This ^^^^ is what I have been trying to say all along. You just did it better. :)
*sorry, that was me, forgot the name...* THANK YOU, Lightasus! This ^^^^ is what I have been trying to say all along. You just did it better. :)
Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I feel, regardless of any time frames, how ever long one may consider them to be, we have enough quality information to assess and evaluate these characters properly.
P.S.: Agree on Akihito and the professional identity (I guess that's why "housewifey" Akihito makes me cringe so ;) ).
QUOTE: "First off, my comment is about readers' blithe acceptance of Asami saying something sappy like "Don't toss my heart around" but then turning around and saying "I love you" is sappy and insisting Asami would never say anything sappy, when he already has." END QUOTE.
First of all, since this is directed at me, I never said anything about the "don't toss my heart around" quote being sappy or not sappy. I didn't mention that at all. So let's not put words or opinions on my mouth, please. Second, this is a phrase that is very difficult to translate to begin with, as those with Japanese proficiency will tell you. So I wouldn't get to hung up on the exact words or deeper meaning here. It's not exactly the best translation possible. Third, I have stated repeatedly that what I, PERSONALLY (!), don't want, is for them to go down the sappy fanfiction love/domestic bliss route which I feel would be out of character and not fitting the story. That is my OPINION. Yes, I do have one. I asked this before and I am asking this again: Can we please accept and respect that this is how I feel about it and not try and digest that or "prove me wrong" in any way? Because I find that very opinionated. You are free to make a post saying: I think they should and will say ILU at some point because they are [insert your opinion]. But please do so without trying to depreciate mine, please. Needless to say I have no problem with other people having different opinions on the matter. I would just like mine to remain a valid one, too. That's all. And that really IS my final post on the matter. ;)
I don't want him to be a housewife either. I wrote "with" instead of "without" on my original response. I meant to say I want Aki to be committed without being a "housewife". :)
Not like it would be hard for Asami to go to another country but they wouldn't be able to marry in Japan anyway.
I don't mind too much Akihito's "housewife" tendencies simply because he doesn't take it overboard. He's just responsible as someone who's had to live alone for a while. (If it started being like on that one fantasy of his, then it would be a bit much).
I definitely want to see them committed in what could be considered a marital way but I want Akihito to really establish his career first. And maybe learn some self defense. Like it would be interested if people in the underworld knew of them and someone tried to kidnap him and he just beat the crap out of them. Lol
Or someone tried to pull information on Asami out of him and just provides them with something useless saying he would never betray him (yes I did just steal that from a recent fanfic that popped up but my point stands).
That's what I want from them. Committed but not dependent. For Asami to be able to trust Akihito with knowledge of his world and for Akihito to sometimes be able to use his own connections to help Asami. They really don't need I love you's.
I know it occurs in many other manga, however it depends on what is sensei's intention. She's been avoiding it for more than a decade, Viewfinder didn't get first published yesterday.
"The man is not an idiot. He knows how to use language, including a direct statement."
Sure. Asians avoid direct statements as a cultural preference, does that make them all idiots?
They deliberately avoid to state things in a forward manner on a daily basis because it would be seen as blunt in their culture. There's sixteen ways to imply a "no". Here's one (a very typical situation):
A Japanese businessman wants to tell his Norwegian client that he is uninterested in a particular sale. So he says "That will be very difficult." The Norwegian eagerly asks how he can help. The Japanese is mystified. To him, saying that something is difficult is a polite way of saying "No way in hell!". Dave Barry tells the story of being on a trip to Japan and working with a Japanese airline clerk on taking a flight from one city to another. On being asked about it, the clerk said "Perhaps you would prefer to take the train." So he said "NO, I want to fly." So she said "There are many other ways to go." He said "yes, but I think it would be best to fly." She said "It would very difficult". Eventually, it came out that there were no flights between those cities.
"A Japanese manager explained his culture’s communication style to an American: “We are a homogeneous people and don’t have to speak as much as you do here. When we say one word, we understand ten, but here you have to say ten to understand one.”
"Japanese can find Westerners to be offensively blunt. Westerners can find Japanese to be secretive, devious and bafflingly unforthcoming with information. French can feel that Germans insult their intelligence by explaining the obvious, while Germans can feel that French managers provide no direction."
I don't know, make a research on high context and low context languages. That is why translating from Japanese is so tricky; so little is said, so much is implied. But the translators have to interpret it and adapt it to the English grammar and make it seem natural to the native speaker, but so much is lost in the process.
Besides, he did not say "Don't toss my heart around". He just didn't. So I don't see the point of your first paragraph, I thought you were arguing on the logic of other people at this point.
It will never end!
Thanks for explaining that. I find those kinds of differences to be interesting (as well as explaining parts of the story). Context is always important.
When this story ends. I really want it to end with them getting married.