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nah i’m dropping it if jooin ends up with that r@pist instead of cain

naima January 16, 2021 5:53 pm

nah i’m dropping it if jooin ends up with that r@pist instead of cain

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    Fatalpoison January 16, 2021 9:39 pm

    Yahwi did not rape Jooin. It is up to the drunk person if they were raped ot not. Literally the exact same thing would have happened even if Jooin wasn't drunk. Also a few chapters later Jooin has sex with Yawhi when HE is drunk. Does that mean Jooin is also a rapist????

    Fatalpoison January 16, 2021 9:40 pm

    And don't forget, when Jooin realised they had sex he was upset about the fact Yawhi pretended it didn't happen, not that he was drunk when it happened

    seeeeenpai January 16, 2021 10:12 pm
    Yahwi did not rape Jooin. It is up to the drunk person if they were raped ot not. Literally the exact same thing would have happened even if Jooin wasn't drunk. Also a few chapters later Jooin has sex with Yawh... Fatalpoison

    I think it's more the fact that he touched someone and had sex with someone who was clearly not in their right mind. And not telling the person after that is even worse. But since Join was okay with it I guess you could say it was consensual. Still touching a person who is so drunk is just not socially seen as a necessary good thing

    ばかみたい January 16, 2021 11:15 pm
    Yahwi did not rape Jooin. It is up to the drunk person if they were raped ot not. Literally the exact same thing would have happened even if Jooin wasn't drunk. Also a few chapters later Jooin has sex with Yawh... Fatalpoison

    Mmm... It was? Jooin was so drunk that he couldn't recall a thing the day after, so Yahwi did rape him by taking advantage of him being intoxicated. Yahwi also had the audacity to blame him for not remembering. It was rape and if they continue to have a relationship is because of the plot, not because is not rape anymore. Also... What is up in trying to pin Jooin as he someone who raped Yahwi to save his ass for being called a rapist? It's weird. I'm not part of any team but seeing people trying to justify Yahwi is really concerning.

    Fatalpoison January 17, 2021 12:25 am
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    Yes exactly. This is the point I was trying to make.

    Fatalpoison January 17, 2021 12:28 am
    Mmm... It was? Jooin was so drunk that he couldn't recall a thing the day after, so Yahwi did rape him by taking advantage of him being intoxicated. Yahwi also had the audacity to blame him for not remembering.... ばかみたい

    I didn't call Jooin a rapist. I was being sarcastic and addressing the double standard some fans seem to have. If Yahwi sleeping with Jooin while he was drunk is "rape" then why is Jooin having sex with Yahwi not considered rape?

    minutta January 17, 2021 12:29 am

    save yourself the time and drop it now then

    ばかみたい January 17, 2021 12:30 am
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    Couldn't care less? Jooin was emotionally destroyed when he realizes what happened and he felt used because Yahwi knew and yet he played with him, so Jooin does understands that what Yahwi did was wrong, he goes as far to question him if it was fun to play with him having no recollection on what happened. It was dissapointing how this aspect didn't go further, I don't like how the story never goes back on how Yahwi took advantage of him in that state and continue their """"romance""""".... Tiring excuse? Rape is a tiring excuse to you? Good to know.

    January 17, 2021 12:33 am
    Yahwi did not rape Jooin. It is up to the drunk person if they were raped ot not. Literally the exact same thing would have happened even if Jooin wasn't drunk. Also a few chapters later Jooin has sex with Yawh... Fatalpoison

    Thank you!! If only others seen it like you. They just want any excuse to hate on Yahwi so Cain can be seen as the better option. They always bring up that rape shit, they're like a broken record.

    Fatalpoison January 17, 2021 12:35 am
    I think it's more the fact that he touched someone and had sex with someone who was clearly not in their right mind. And not telling the person after that is even worse. But since Join was okay with it I guess ... seeeeenpai

    I do agree that it can be problematic, but it is up to the drunken person if they consider it to be rape or not. Jooin had been lasting after Yahwi for ages. He would have absolutely slept with him whether he was drunk or not. The alcohol just gave him Dutch courage

    Fatalpoison January 17, 2021 12:36 am
    I do agree that it can be problematic, but it is up to the drunken person if they consider it to be rape or not. Jooin had been lasting after Yahwi for ages. He would have absolutely slept with him whether he w... Fatalpoison

    Lusting*

    Fatalpoison January 17, 2021 12:42 am
    Thank you!! If only others seen it like you. They just want any excuse to hate on Yahwi so Cain can be seen as the better option. They always bring up that rape shit, they're like a broken record.

    Thank for the support! I was starting to think I was the only one with common sense. To be fair I can see both sides but it is obvious that scene was never supposed to be interpreted as "rape".

    ばかみたい January 17, 2021 12:42 am
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    You are losing patience with me not agreeing with you and having a rational discussion? How old are you? I don't have to think like that and I'm not okay with a trope even if it's use in other BLs. Your argument is generalization? So basic.

    Fatalpoison January 17, 2021 12:44 am
    Couldn't care less? Jooin was emotionally destroyed when he realizes what happened and he felt used because Yahwi knew and yet he played with him, so Jooin does understands that what Yahwi did was wrong, he goe... ばかみたい

    You totally misread that conversation. Jooin was upset because Yahwi pretended it didn't happen NOT because he thought he was raped.

    Fatalpoison January 17, 2021 12:45 am
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    YESSSSS!!! Thank you for speaking the truth

    minutta January 17, 2021 12:48 am
    Couldn't care less? Jooin was emotionally destroyed when he realizes what happened and he felt used because Yahwi knew and yet he played with him, so Jooin does understands that what Yahwi did was wrong, he goe... ばかみたい

    soo are we going to ignore the fact that right after jooin asked him if it was fun to play with him, he also said that he doesn’t care about anything else as long as yahwi’s feelings changed? not trying to defend him for that scene bc it was unnecessary and fucked up, but jooin didn’t broke down just bc of it. it was an accumulation of things: the usb incident, yahwi paying him for sex, never showing any signs of liking him and ofc the fact that it looked like he played with his head the entire time. the story never furthered that plotline bc it was resolved in that episode sure, it was underwhelming, but jooin had never thought about that scene or be grossed out by it nor did he bring it up again. he wasn’t even uncomfortable around yahwi later on so no matter how disappointing it is, it’s already dealt with.

    ばかみたい January 17, 2021 12:48 am
    YESSSSS!!! Thank you for speaking the truth Fatalpoison

    What truth? That I have to be okay with rape because other BLs have it?? That's a fallacy. Read a real book.

    Fatalpoison January 17, 2021 12:52 am
    What truth? That I have to be okay with rape because other BLs have it?? That's a fallacy. Read a real book. ばかみたい

    I'm agreeing with what they said about how the author never intended that scene to be interpreted as "rape" because it isn't.

    ばかみたい January 17, 2021 12:57 am
    soo are we going to ignore the fact that right after jooin asked him if it was fun to play with him, he also said that he doesn’t care about anything else as long as yahwi’s feelings changed? not trying to ... minutta

    I don't ignore it. That just makes the situation worst because after he took advantage of him, Yahwi treated him like a prostitute and broke his heart in the process. It's really absurd how this issue is treated like nothing because the story still romanticize them. The story is dumb for having Jooin still being in love with Yahwi despite this and how he also forced him to have sex with him after he saw Jooin going out with Cain, but now we have to be okay with it since we have Yahwi pulling up a 180° change of attitude like he didn't fuck him until he passed out a few hours ago. I don't see anything romantic in their relationship.

    ばかみたい January 17, 2021 1:01 am
    I'm agreeing with what they said about how the author never intended that scene to be interpreted as "rape" because it isn't. Fatalpoison

    If that makes you happy, believe in it. "Jooin didn't get rape even tho he did not remember himself consenting having sexual intercouse with Yahwi nor any action they did in the process because it was probaly not the author's intention" Okay