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Kreutzer January 16, 2021 10:33 pm

Arthur is an old man and tess is like 13-15 years by now. Argh. It is already disgusting to me how the story shows him 'shaken' for her (like the comment 'you are usually calm' then 'maybe is because of tess in the story).
So I hope this do not develops from Arthur side further at least when they are still teenagers like that.
I understand Tess teenager runts and first love feelings, this is all ok for her, BUT Arthur responsibility as an adult is completely different.

Responses
    chimchim January 16, 2021 10:50 pm

    Uhm that was his past life tho...like if you died at an old age then reborn your a new person your past life age don’t matter??? So he is a teenager just like her not trying to be rude ofc!! I mean just that he is a teenager and that he was an adult in his past life so it doesn’t matter just bc he remembered his past life doesn’t matter he still an teenager

    maddienorea January 16, 2021 10:51 pm
    Uhm that was his past life tho...like if you died at an old age then reborn your a new person your past life age don’t matter??? So he is a teenager just like her not trying to be rude ofc!! I mean just that ... chimchim

    I agree if I were to grow old then die and become reborn my mentality word be of an old women

    chimchim January 16, 2021 10:58 pm
    I agree if I were to grow old then die and become reborn my mentality word be of an old women maddienorea

    Yes same lol I would still think like an old lady and everything just be in a whole new body and just having to start over from the start

    Kreutzer January 16, 2021 11:00 pm
    Uhm that was his past life tho...like if you died at an old age then reborn your a new person your past life age don’t matter??? So he is a teenager just like her not trying to be rude ofc!! I mean just that ... chimchim

    Of course his past life matter. Age is not just what is outside the body.
    You can use any word you want tp explain, but this is just excuse for pedo relationships.
    If a old wizard possessed a young boy body in the school to date the other 13 year old girls everyone would see it as wrong. This also applies to Art, he is a good guy, but he still has a old man experience.
    All his experience is ok to everything in the story, but just for romance we need pretend he is 13 year old boy? Bs

    XxXxX January 16, 2021 11:08 pm
    Of course his past life matter. Age is not just what is outside the body.You can use any word you want tp explain, but this is just excuse for pedo relationships.If a old wizard possessed a young boy body in th... Kreutzer

    Please don’t take this the wrong way, I’m genuinely curious. But does him having his past memories and experience have any effect on your view? Because in Chinese mythology, when we die and go to the underworld, we drink a soup of forgetfulness before we get reborn. What does the story become then if Art was simply reborn without any of his memories or experience? Does this make the romance a little better do you think? Or do you think that your take still applies whether or not he has his memories/experience? Or does this make the story into a completely different story?

    Kreutzer January 16, 2021 11:12 pm

    Oh, I barely wrote it and there are so many down votes. I have 24 year old (half of Art mentally age in the story) and I couldn't bring myself to fall in love with a 13 year old even if my life depends of it. There is a big difference in mentality. Even if I reincarnated, I would still keep my memories and experience. So 13 year old would still look kids for me anyway.
    I said that Art should not show interest in girls until the adult age (20 or so) because it sounded like obvious.

    chimchim January 16, 2021 11:16 pm
    Of course his past life matter. Age is not just what is outside the body.You can use any word you want tp explain, but this is just excuse for pedo relationships.If a old wizard possessed a young boy body in th... Kreutzer

    All he has left if a bit if his memoirs of his past life he said himself that he doesn’t even remember much like everything is starting to fade away so I don’t see the problem here? If he sees himself as a young teenager and just have memories of his new life then how is he a pedo?? His past life have nothing to do with his new life! Atm he is more mature and have a more adult like mind so..

    XxXxX January 16, 2021 11:24 pm
    Oh, I barely wrote it and there are so many down votes. I have 24 year old (half of Art mentally age in the story) and I couldn't bring myself to fall in love with a 13 year old even if my life depends of it. T... Kreutzer

    I agree with you. Sometimes it’s easy to get lost in the fantasy and forget about actual age of our characters. I know I never pay attention. But then you take a step back and realize it, it takes away the magic of the story a little. But from what I’ve seen so far, I would argue that Art isn’t necessarily interested in the girls around him like that just yet.

    Kreutzer January 16, 2021 11:30 pm
    Please don’t take this the wrong way, I’m genuinely curious. But does him having his past memories and experience have any effect on your view? Because in Chinese mythology, when we die and go to the underw... XxXxX

    Hello o/
    So, if you reincarnated but have no memory of your past life, you are just a normal person having to experience everything in life the first time, so no problem in romance or whatever.
    This is not Art case. The story would turn 180 degrees, if it was. He would not be so mature as he is, he would not develop warships, he would not knows how to use a sword with a 4 years body.
    But rght now, He use his experience to fight, to deal with people and a lot of things.
    There would not be a problem in romance if he develops something for Tess after she became an adult, but for now...what a man with so many years of experience sees in a 13 year old girl?
    My best friend is 26 year old and married a 43 year old man last year. There is a huge gap in their ages, but they are both adults. It's ok if there is a gap age difference, but if they are adults.
    A 50 year old man flirting with a 13 year old is pedophilia.

    maddienorea January 16, 2021 11:31 pm

    In the novel I believe he said he doesn’t want take interest in girl just yet because he’ll feel like a pedo

    Kreutzer January 16, 2021 11:37 pm
    In the novel I believe he said he doesn’t want take interest in girl just yet because he’ll feel like a pedo maddienorea

    Exactly, there even this mention in the novel. When I read it, it made sense amd I was relived. But for what it seems 13 year old is ok now for them oO

    Other person mentioned in thread his previous memories are fading away...and like. A few chapters ago he drew the design of an warship with his previous memories. He still has enough memories to draw designs and fight, but not to remember he is an adult and other are kids?

    Kreutzer January 16, 2021 11:43 pm
    All he has left if a bit if his memoirs of his past life he said himself that he doesn’t even remember much like everything is starting to fade away so I don’t see the problem here? If he sees himself as a ... chimchim

    A few chapters ago he drew the design of an warship with his previous memories. He still has enough memories to draw designs and fight, but not to remember he is an adult and other are kids? Think about it.
    You say his past life has nothing with his new, but he still uses everything good of the past to his benefits. This story would not need be a reincarnated story if the past is useless.
    When he was 5/8 year old he said the others just look like kids to him. What changed now when they are still 13 year old? I think is a strange choice of the author starting things here when the story at this point don't even need romance.

    chimchim January 16, 2021 11:51 pm
    A few chapters ago he drew the design of an warship with his previous memories. He still has enough memories to draw designs and fight, but not to remember he is an adult and other are kids? Think about it. You... Kreutzer

    That is indeed true too, for me I don’t think this story need any type of romance I mean not for art at least I see him as a teen and have all the time so I don’t think much of the romance stuff and more about the fighting etc yk, I think he knows he is reborn yk but what he did in his past life is starting to fade away like he knows that it exists just not much of it!

    Ofc his past life has a meaning in his new life ofc and it’s useful indeed but after reading this for a while I can’t really see him as an old person anymore for some reason it’s stuck in my head that he is a teen

    Kreutzer January 17, 2021 12:27 am
    That is indeed true too, for me I don’t think this story need any type of romance I mean not for art at least I see him as a teen and have all the time so I don’t think much of the romance stuff and more ab... chimchim

    Sorry if I was rude, I think I can understand you a bit better now. But this is the big difference as the way we read this story, to me Art is more an adult than a teenager at this point.
    There are a lot of 'second chances' stories I read, but even when they reborn as baby, they become adults at a fast pace or they already comeback/travel to a point when their body is of an adult. So both mind and body are in sync. I like omniscient reader..., trash son of the count's family, a returnee magic..., kill the hero, etc.
    So this story situation when he still is a kid is not that normal to me to read (usually just in shoujo stories when the girl is daughter of someone important). Also, most of the MC I saw, despite make some wrong judgement here and them as any human sometimes (Cale and Desir can't stop to make their group worried with them), they still have conscience about who they truly are (adults with responsibilities) .
    It's not I am saying Art is hunting girls, of course he is not. But I would be blind if I not see Tess is the FL. I can't just see him just a teenager when he as the others make use of his past experiences a lot of time.
    All I hope is that he just show interest in her after she is a at least 18 or so, not 13 -.-
    And is not like I hate romance in stories, but sometimes...the point in the story don't really none at all ...

    chimchim January 17, 2021 12:39 am
    Sorry if I was rude, I think I can understand you a bit better now. But this is the big difference as the way we read this story, to me Art is more an adult than a teenager at this point. There are a lot of 'se... Kreutzer

    Exactly! I get what you mean and btw I wasn’t trying to be rude either! art really act more like an adult than a kid but ngl I have seen many parts there he acts like a teen his age too so that’s why I’m stuck with the thought that he is teen! I feel the same about that the part where you said that you hope he shows interest in Tess when she is 18+ I don’t think it’s good for them to start showing love interest when she is still young but wait are they 13?? They feel so much older like 15 idk I don’t think they have ever said their age

    Kreutzer January 17, 2021 1:09 am
    Exactly! I get what you mean and btw I wasn’t trying to be rude either! art really act more like an adult than a kid but ngl I have seen many parts there he acts like a teen his age too so that’s why I’m... chimchim

    It seems Art (body) is 12 years old now, He died at the age of 38 in his past.
    Tess is 13.

    I'm talking by memory, I would have to read the wb again to be sure. Sorry if there are any mistakes, I didn't read the novel ╥﹏╥

    Reshaine21 January 17, 2021 1:34 am

    Then are you saying all of the reborn and reincarnated stories are all bad because they liked people who are much younger than them?


    I'm sorry if I may sound rude to you and all and I don't think you're wrong at all but I've read this in a story somewhere that Art being reincarnated is both him being 13- 15 year old and 30+ years old. Yes, he has some memories of his past life when he was 30 and so but it doesn't matter right now, Art right now is a 13 - 15 year old , and no I'm not saying they should love each other and all but Art also hasn't even expressed feelings for Tess, obviously it's Tess who was bothered by it because she obviously likes Art. At a young age pf 18 below, things like puppy love and crushes can happen and it's normal and Art being a 13-15 year old right now despite of his past has that privilege ...

    So yeah .... He maybe once 30 years old before and his memories of that time has GREATLY helped him get stronger but rn AT THE CURRENT PRESENT TIME He is also like Tess, a growing young boy ...

    Thank You.

    Jia15_VAP January 17, 2021 1:59 am

    Sameee.. actually I just hate Tess.. pissed the fuck me off ugh

    NightRoseFox January 17, 2021 2:12 am

    I'd like to say that there are two other reincarnated souls from Art's previous life, and I believe one of them is Tess. So just because she lost her memories of her past life does that make her a teenage girl again? What if she had remembered and Art had forgotten? I don't think his memories from his previous life determine his age. There are plenty of teenagers that are way too mature for their ages. He used his knowledge to help him advance, and the country advance, not to have a girlfriend. Plus I'd also like to point out that he never had any love affairs in his previous life. He focused on self improvement, so what is wrong with him taking his second life and doing with it what he didn't before, like fall in love? If you base his age on his previous life, then even his mother would be too young for him to have been born to her. After all he was like 50 when he died! Seriously I'd get it if this was a time regression, and he was the same person, but he's not. He's a totally different person in a totally different world. And technically Tess is actually older than Art age wise, so how is he the pedophile? I just don't see how those dots connect. Plus she is waaaaaay more interested in him right now than he is with her.

    Kreutzer January 17, 2021 3:27 am
    I'd like to say that there are two other reincarnated souls from Art's previous life, and I believe one of them is Tess. So just because she lost her memories of her past life does that make her a teenage girl ... NightRoseFox

    Yes, because she lost her memories she is a teenager again. This is so obvious -.-.
    If Tess with a 50 years old mentality flirted with a 13 year old boy Arthur, I would still find it creep. Memories have a important play to say to ourselves who we are.
    The memories of his life are of good use to everything, but no for his age? Think slowly about it. Gaps like that are the things pedos love, so we can't let it be as normal things and need reflect about it.
    His past is part of the person he is today. Even if we move to other country and start a new life with different people, this didn't mean our past is erased. He is still learning a lot about the world, but his use and remember his past memories now and then. He is not a completely different person, he is someone with a new chance with personal development.
    Saihate no paladin is a story of reincarnation were barely none of the past of the char is used because of the life he had. By the way, he had no love in his previous life, even like that in his new reincarnation he still saw himself as an adult-.- this is a common sense.

    A family relationship can start at any time, AT ANY AGE, hence why people adopts. Hence why when my friend married again the kids of her husband called her mother even if they are not far apart in age. In my view this is why Arthur could call his parents this way with sincerity.
    But romantic relationship are not like that.
    Here what I answered before:
    1. There would not be a problem in romance if he develops something for Tess after she became an adult, but for now...what a man with so many years of experience sees in a 13 year old girl?
    My best friend is 26 year old and married a 43 year old man last year. There is a huge gap in their ages, but they are both adults. It's ok if there is a gap age difference, but if THEY BOTH ARE ADULTS.
    2.It's not I am saying Art is hunting girls, of course HE IS NOT. But I would be blind if I not see Tess is the FL. I can't just see him just a teenager when he, as the others MC, make use of his past experiences a lot of time.
    All I hope is that he just show interest in her after she is a at least 18 or so, not 13 -.-
    And is not like I hate romance in stories, but sometimes...the point in the story don't really need none at all ...