sorata

And something about Heesung...I don't know if he is a red flag or not, but although he knows that something is going on between Jaekyung and Dan, he still wants to get in between and steal Dan from him, probably because he is someone that wants what he doesn't have or can't have and can't stand to lose from anyone. I, personally, don't like those kinds of people.

Me too! I find JK’s character so interesting plus, he's really hot.

I feel the book has revealed to us that Jk is not a nice person. So when I see comments saying JK should treat Dan better, I find it stupid because Jk isn't that typical green flag that can just change overnight. People need to understand his character and expect these kinds of things.

I also feel a lot of people are overlooking his character development because there's abuse. Jk is slowly changing. He probably doesn't know what he's feeling for our baby and is trying to understand his feelings. He doesn't know how to act on his feelings and does it the only unreasonable way possible. It should also be some kind of trauma because some of his behaviours aren't even normal.

Chapter 34 has shown us how possessive Jk can be. He's simply dominating what's his, he's giving that “show and tell” vibe. I mean you won't foresee less from an MMA fighter. Let's be ffr.

I totally agree with you. Maybe he has some sort of trauma resonating from his childhood, that won't be easy to overcome just because he met Dan. I think he will slowly change for the better, but overall, he has already changed. And let's be honest, he is a dominant male who likes to fuck hard, i don't think that's gonna change, maybe it will become a lot more emotional thouh...Let's see

Super agreeee, somehow everyone(almost) here hating this manga because of how red flag jk is, I mean it does show how "bossy" since the start, no idea why people still complain about this manga, and story can't always have green flag, sometime something difference does set the mood hehe, plus he is not a cheater type, I kinda like how "loyal" & possessive he is towards dan ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

thats an opinion alright..

do you realise that he is a fucking rapist or are like blind to that too?

Omg, did anyone deny that? It's as if the point completely flew over your head.

Second note: I don't think he's a rapist, I think he's an abuser but that doesn't matter because they are both bad terms.

We are simply giving more reviews on Jk personality but it seems you wanna start a fight with how you responded.

The character fucking development where???
The thing op said is just jaekyung's personality and nothing else. He already hated Dan and wanted to make sure about it. The main reason he did all of that for Dan because his body satisfied him longer than anyone did which helped with his jinx.
also he is an abuser as well as rapist.
No i dont wanna start a fight but there has been no character development whatsoever if anything at all it's character degradation.

I'm sorry, but what do you understand by character development???

“ he is an abuser as well as rapist.”

Your opinion that I don't agree with.

the change a character undergoes through the story usually relating to their personality and or looks.

okay? He still is an abuser and rapist. Your opinion doesn't change what's true.

Jk normally has flings, according to the book, he sleeps with different people every time. So the fact that he's settled with Dan is also a sign that he's interested in Dan. I've never seen someone claim a sex partner to this extent, isnt it bizarre to go to such lengths of dominance just to claim what's his? There's definitely something there. He might not be able to express his feelings well but he'll get there for sure.

Jk has started becoming considerate of Dan, although, I think he's still new to the feeling since this recent chapter he just did whatever unreasonable thing that came to his head. It seems he also thought about what he was gonna do for quite some time. Jk wants Dan so feel good when they're having sex( when he grabbed Dan’s d and started stroking him is a sign of consideration of the partner during sex. It also proves that his intention isn't pain or no consent(rape) or when he asked Dan if he liked the toy…come on.

The fact that Dan always complained about his grandma to Jk and Jk went himself to accompany Dan’s grandma is just top-tier and goddamn sweet.

I wouldn't exactly call it rape;

•Jk told Dan to leave after he threatened him but Dan still stayed.
•Jk thinks Dan is experienced because he lied.
•Dan literally sold himself, the fact he requested for another $14,000 is a green light on JK’s part to add more terms to their contractual relationship.

Why do you think the author didn't give a warning sign on rape? Because rape is not what the author intended. It's simply an abusive relationship.

I also feel Jk is very poor at recognising emotions. He doesn't know if Dan enjoys it because Dan never voices his thoughts. Dan always takes it all without his partner knowing. Dan is also at fault.

In no way am I trying to justify JK’s actions eww. I just feel rape is too harsh of a term for this story.

Have you read potn? Roses and champagne? Pearl boy? Legs that won’t work… girlll the tops are far worse than Jk. I tell yoy

Please read my comment above♡.

And I'm sure it as come to thoughts of Jk saying: Why does he always say “Wait”? Isn't he experienced in these types of things? Why does he always refuse and complain? Maybe he likes things that way?

In the second chapter the first guy jaekyung had fucked with clearly stated that they had been hooking up for months now.
He stayed with Dan just because his body is good. Simple words put his hole is tight and enough to satisfy Joo.

At the starting there was no foreplay between Joo and Dan it was only after Dan fainted after having sex with him after he almost got raped by those 3 guys that he started foreplay because of the suggestion of the doctor because he didn't want Dan to faint mid sex.
Maybe there has been a few changes but it isn't big enough to call character development.

I will counter your each and every point of why Jaekyung didn't rape Dan with "Dan said NO"
He said it hurts, he told him to also stop in ch 3 itself
AND. THAT. SHOULD. BE. ENOUGH. FOR. HIM. TO. STOP.
I am not gonna take any "Oh well he mistook it for Dan wanted it" NO. FUCK. NO. If your partner, be it sex partner or a prostitute says no. It's a NO. You stop. Simple as that.
Joo's personality doesn't define him not stopping he is a grown adult around the age of 25 he should know that if Dan said no he should stop and ask him. Neither was their any foreplay whatsoever.

Dan is at very lightly at fault. He is scared of Jaekyung, it's obvious he is taller and heavier and stronger and RICHER compared to Dan. His grandma's life is on the line too. He has to think about a lot of things since he is afraid Joo will hurt him.

also i haven't read those nor do I plan to read romanticization/justification of disgusting stuff like this.

I am only keeping up with jinx because I wanna see how it gets worse progressively.
And I like to find out other peoples perspective on this manhwa. And love seeing people defend Joo's action without a solid point (basically people on insta).

Then, according to your opinion, Dan is an asshole for not reporting him to the police and just stays at his house enjoying his fucking freedom from his other rapists that, oh dear, the other rapist saved him from. Oops, I didn't want to swear so much, but the fact that you see rapists everywhere has gotten the best of me. And, i forgot to mention, that when someone rapes you, you don't have a hard on. Plus, you don't have to agree with my opinion.

hallelujah honey!!!

are you actually and i mean ACTUALLY VICITIM BLAMING? OH MY FUCKING FUCK-
You're too chronically online -.
1. He needs the money for his grandma's debt
2. It's Joo Jaekyung he can easily shut it down with how rich he is (he has a black card)
3. Dan is scared of Joo. I would be too he is black belt in mma.
4. Just because you have a hard on doesn't mean it's not rape. My friend got sa'd she had an orgasm it is still RAPE.

If somebody says NO and you continue. It's RAPE.
If somebody says STOP and you continue. It's RAPE.
If somebody says IT HURTS and you continue. It's RAPE.
If somebody says YES because of their pressurized situation and you continue. It's RAPE.
If somebody is SILENT and you continue. It's RAPE.
CONSENT ISN'T NEGOTIABLE. IF SOMEBODY SAYS NO YOU STOP.

Just be fucking honest and say that you like the manhua and don't just criticize everything anyone says just because your morality levels are higher, You know what? I don't mind criticism, but what i don't like is sarcasm and disrespect to others' opinions.

No i dont like the manhwa why would I give it a one rating otherwise.
It's the most basic ass manhwa with the most basic ass plotline there are millions better than this. I just love seeing people defend Joo without no strong opinion.
And i neither disrespected your opinion neither was i sarcastic about it i just stated that he is a rapist.

Who said I am blaming Dan??? Are you fucking sane? I said according to your opinion if I'm not mistaken...Oh GOD! Why are you reading this kind of manhuas??? Did you not read the other one of the same author? And I don't need you to tell me that when someone says no it's rape...Please get a grip...I'm just saying that if he wanted to escape he could...He is not a prisoner at some dungeon, waiting for the mother fucker who rapes him to come and feed him and also he has Heesung, why doesn't he tell him something? I think he is powerful enough to help him, he is a well-known actor for fucks sake

Then don't keep reading it

because you fucking said that Dan got a hard and that's why it's not rape. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO SAY.
He cannot say it to Heesung because he indebted to Jaekyung and he is SCARED of him for fucks sake-
Bro wasn't raping him till the recent chapters until ch 34 dropped and he did this fucked up shit AGAIN.
AND no I didn't read Bj alex i have no interest in that manhwa whatsoever

I explained it in my comment while replying to Manhwaspicy read it or dont fucking do that idfc.

That's what i'm trying to say...the victim shouldn't feel indebted to anyone that does harm to him...and if you didn't read Bj Alex why did you think that this one would be any different? Just a question, with every respect, do you watch movies that show these kind of behaviours and if yes, are you saying the same stuff to the ones that are watching with you? Do you criticize a movie, like if it shows rape, then the screenwriter is gloryfing rape or something? Because if you do, then i believe the right genre for you is shounen ai and not yaoi. I am just enjoying the manhua man, I don't really care if it shows something disturbing or not, if something is beautifully drawn and has flow and storyline, i consider it good. It's all fiction afterall, no need to turn it to reality...

We are not in his situation and don't know how it is like.
Also I don't have a problem with rape.
Yk what I have a problem with? Romanticization of it. And yk what's even more problematic? This manhwa is under the romance tag and not the psychological tag.
Psychological I can understand because it's supposed to fucked up that's the point there is no romance but if it's under the romance tag the love interest in now way should be raping the mc.
And if you like it like it lol idec but I don't understand why people defend joo by saying he isn't a rapist. He is.
Also fiction doesn't mean it's okay, if it's not okay to show racism, homophobia, misogyny, misandry and stuff like that then neither should be romanticization of rape and abuse, under the romance/dark romance tag.
Have a good day/night/afternoon/evening.

Husband and wife during sex.
wife moans oh yeah, oh no.
The husband stops.
The wife gets angry and slaps her husband.
"Why did you stop!"
"You said no"
"I did?"

True story. She slapped me. For stopping when she said No. No doesn't always mean no.
It is no to sex means no.

You are too chronically online .. It is an insult. it shows you are losing.
1. Are you sure that is the only reason?
2. I am not following this well... to understand this point but I only read a few comments. I have read more.
3. IS he?
4. right you can't control your body. If your friend was SA then how was she raped? Rape is SA but SA isn't just rape. If she was molested and had an orgasm, how was she raped?

Triggered????
Talk to people.

If somebody says NO and you continue. It's RAPE. If no to sex, yes, and Jinx happens differently. what happens after?
If somebody says STOP and you continue. It's RAPE. If you pay attention JK stops then continues. read the story. What happens after?

If somebody says IT HURTS and you continue. It's RAPE. No.

If somebody says YES because of their pressurized situation and you continue. It's RAPE.
No, Sexual Coercion is SA. LOOK IT UP. IF that is what you are meaning here.

If somebody is SILENT and you continue. It's RAPE. WHAT??????? Have you had sex before?

CONSENT ISN'T NEGOTIABLE. IF SOMEBODY SAYS NO YOU STOP.

You have never been in a relationship before. Communication is Key. You talk to your partner. In the conversation, they can change their minds or not.

I will counter each and every point of why Jaekyung didn't rape Dan. I can crush any arguments you have since you are cherry-picking to your POV rather than keeping to the story's POV. You don't seem to understand the story, you don't seem to understand the difference between SA, Rape, or sexual coercion. All of them are SA. But sexual coercion isn't rape. Molestation and attempted rape isn't rape. There are different kinds of no's and stops in sex. It is best to know about something before talking about it. Maybe have some relationship experience before making another reply

He is a sexual abuser. The rapist bit is your opinion.

We are not defending him by saying he is not a rapist because you see rape. Rape is your POV.
It is not okay to claim we are defending him when we are defending the story. How are we defending him? You are adding elements.

I mean good you stopped, just stop if somebody says no it wont fucking kill you to do so. Just ask if they're okay.
Ch3 AGAIN. Dan clearly wasn't comfortable with it and even said it hurts what do i need to explain more go read it.

Yes chronically online yes it's supposed to be an insult who exactly is losing here, are you saying I am or they are?

1. Yes he is indebted to Joo because he paid off of his bills (other reason being he doesn't have a place to stay)
2. Black card is like well basically given to the richest of the richest people in SK you can search more about it
3. If he isn't a black belt in mma (I forgot) then he is a champion of heavyweight smthn and he has been keeping that record for quite a while
4. My bad yes she got raped, but you're no one for me to explain how was she raped. And so I won't explain further. I cannot share anything online.

"If somebody says NO and you continue. It's RAPE. If no to sex, yes, and Jinx happens differently. what happens after?" (didn't understand this)
ch 3 AGAIN, he forced Dan's head on the mattress and said smthn along the lines of "I'll crush your skull shut the fuck up" idk i forgot read that fucking ch.

Yes, not fully. They're saying it hurts, basically you stop... another way of saying stop and you're not stopping borderline SA/rape.

Fine still a crime.

I meant in a situation that if somebody doesn't want to have sex and they have stated multiple times that they dont want this and they just go silent after sometime (could be sa or rape i should have elaborated)

No, I haven't I am a minor (old enough dw)
Yeah communicate by STOPPING mid sex. You proved my point wdym?
Thanks for telling me sexual coercion isn't rape, ik the difference between rape and sa just slipped off of my mind.
I am seeing it in the story's pov and it's rape. and he is an abuser too. so. whatthefuck.

When did i specifically say YOU are defending him I have seen lot's of people defend him (esp on insta)
Rape isn't my pov but something he did to dan. He didn't have his full consent. Fine maybe not a rapist but a sexual assaulter nonetheless and it doesnt make him any better.

Or sexual assaulter (since thats your POV)

I'm sorry for the late reply.

You're correct about being with that guy for months but it's clear Jk is interested in Dan. The fact he took the doctor's advice to treat Dan better is already a green light. The fact he visited his grandma is already a green light, the fact he paid all his debt and let him stay in his home is already a green light. Do you want more? Of course, I'll say more. The fact he saved Dan from those loan sharks(the real rapists) is already a green light. The fact he wants Dan only to himself is a green light. The fact that Heesung said Jk doesn't let anyone stay in his home and he let Dan stay there is already a green light, the fact that Jk is ready to snap Heesung’s neck in two for dating Dan is already a green light. The fact that Jk is going to such lengths to claim Dan as his is already a green light.

The guy is interested in Dan.

Face it. At this point, he doesn't just see Dan as a toy, because if he did, he wouldn't be doing all those things for Dan. He cares for Dan and he might not admit it but he does. Face it.

Dan said ‘no’ and the next, he's asking to go gentler??? Dan said ‘no’ and the next he's asking to go slower??? Dan said ‘no’ and the next he's clinging to Jk???

Dan is asking how to prep himself? Dan is asking Jk to teach him? Dan is asking for more money??? and you say there is no consent at all??? Jk gave him a choice to leave thrice.

Jk always stopped when he noticed Dan crying or shaking or breathing poorly(chap 4) and when he asked what the matter was, what did Dan say??? “..n-no…you just…startled me…”

He prostituted himself. He had a choice to leave the first time but stayed instead.

I don't think Dan is scared of Jk especially now he's growing feelings. I feel he's scared of Jk hitting him which Jk hasn't done.

“I am only keeping up with jinx because I wanna see how it gets worse progressively.”

Bullshit. You and I both know they will end up together living happily lol. Jk will love and fuck Dan and Dan will say he loves it! Jk will fall in love with our baby and there's nothing you do about it! Get worse? You're lying, you want to see the story grow. There's no excuse at this point because why torture yourself if you find something disgusting? That's pretty weird.

Again thank you my dear sir/lady! You took the words off of my mouth!

You're welcome babe♡.

at this point do what you fucking want to. Jaekyung quite literally fucked him after he almost got raped I am not making any more long replies wasting my time.
Yes the story has gotten worse Yk why? Because in the recent chapters he did things with consent from Dan and he isn't doing it now in ch 34.
I also mentioned I love seeing people defend Joo without a strong standpoint.
I know there is nothing I can do about nor am I further interested in this story(the sole reason being I loved the comment section of this story). It's obvious they will end together because this story has a really basic fucking ass plotline.
Either you accept a different opinion or don't.
You don't fuck somebody till they pass out after they almost got raped.
And I know most (might not be you but other people) of you wont write these long ass paragraphs if joo was ugly as fuck and didn't have a great build.

Yeah yeah whatever.

I do have a strong standpoint, but you're denying it lol. But damn, are you jobless? No offense because I find it pretty weird to keep reading something you find disgusting. Comment section? At this point, you're just making excuses.

“And I know most (might not be you but other people) of you won't write these long ass paragraphs if joo was ugly as fuck and didn't have a great build.”

That's why it's called fiction. Which author would want to make their character ugly asf? Although there are few but then again, the majority of authors make their characters damn attractive. Attractiveness is what attracts the crowd, you know. There's really nothing like an ugly ass character in Bl, yeah.

If Joo was ugly, I wouldn't even be here lmao. I love handsome tops with big dicks and toxic personalities, Toxicity brings out the drama! It’s entertaining, that's kinda my main purpose of being here. But you wanna know the difference between us two? I read things that I actually like instead of torturing myself in a story’s comment section that I find disgusting.

Take care♡.

You dont even understand that it's rape reread this whole thing and actually think through and you will realize it's rape.

Yeah pretty privilege is real here and stop defending that man and getting your panties in a twist when somebody calls him a rapist.

I can read what I want and critcize it and I have left reading this story (from now) . I will occasionally still check comments if I want to lmao the main reason I even replied to this comment was because there was barely any development in his character here, he hates heesung and did all that for his hate towards him.

peace out bro

Okay, calm down. No hard feelings.

So, we can't read what we want and like it??? I don't even remember why this whole discussion started in the first place...Because I like JK?? I don't have the right to like him? And you contradict yourself by saying that you will read the comment section occassionally...what the fuck for? you don't like the manga and you want to ruin the mood of every other person here that likes it? you know you use the word rape a lot and i don't know if you really grasp the gravity of its meaning...God, I don't care anymore...Do what you want...I'm done replying anymore

1. Why the fuck are you replying if you're done?
2. When did I say you couldn't like it?
stop fucking jumping to conclusions calm down take a breath and read my fucking comment PROPERLY
3. i clearly mentioned that the whole reason i replied to this comment was because he barely had any character development
4. I can do whatever the fuck I want?? Girl the fuck- i am not the only one critcising here there are other people too lmfao don't get so butthurt when people don't have the same opinions as you (also where am i contradicting myself? I said I have stopped reading this manhwa from now onwards but I will just check the comments occasionally i need your permission for that?)
5. I will call a rapist a rapist. Tf bro-

This is getting on my nerves...Really??? You may not be the only one criticizing, but you are the only one desrespecting the other peoples' opinion! Tell me I'm wrong, no wait give it to me by counting down your reasons, clearly you like doing that very much. I was saying my opinion and i wasn't being desrespectful to anyone, I didn't answer to any other opinion I read in here out of respect, but you were the one calling me blind, if i remember correctly. And honestly, I don't give a fuck if you keep reading this manhua or the comments or not. And yes, I did say that i will not reply anymore, but this is getting far more annoying than i imagined. So, for the love of God, just stop wanting to have the last word and respect that others have different opinions than you. Thank you and goodbye...

I am reading this over and catching up. I don't know how to address you, your name is ridiculous. It degrades you. DTDW, from your first comment to here, your performance has been poor. You said in your second comment you don't want to start a fight but that has what you have been doing since your first comment. "do you realise that he is a fucking rapist or are like blind to that too?"
- That is argumentive, they are blind for not seeing it your way. You can't control yourself or your triggers to where you insult and try to harm others who think differently from you.
- Manhwaspicy and Sorata are the target audience. They have a deeper understanding of the story.
- We are not the target audience. The difference between me and you. I am hostile. I am not forcing a POV, I am not letting my emotions control me. I am not cussing. I am not degrading others. I am not disrespecting other's opinions or them. You are disrespectful. You are gaslighting that is abusive behavior. I can understand the story because I am good at analyzing. I know you have the details wrong and not seeing the story as it. Man, I wished I had that comment from TMSM.... I need to find TMSM's rainbow comment. lol How did he put The story: There is a rainbow: You: Meh! It is too mulit-colored. Call me with it is dark. While it is negative and toxic, you are making it worse and not talking about jinx. "Your opinion doesn't change what's true." He is an abuser, not a rapist. He did not stay with Dan was his body is good. They are a contractual relationship, not a romantic relationship. They are not boyfriends. Why did you think Dan satisfied him? It is not about his jinx that is why JK changed it or it would to his jink. You have missed the subtle character development. And no foreplay isn't why Dan was fainting. Why take one puzzle piece from one puzzle and try to smash it into another puzzle? You will not fool the real target audience that has read and understand the story better than you.

"I mean good you stopped," No, you have no right to say that. I should not stop to a no in pleasure. It is not that kind of no. She said if she meant no she would tell me. we work it out. Communication is the key. You missed the point she didn't want me to stop. You missed the point a no is always a no to sex.
Ch 3 He was uncomfortable but you are missing many things too. IF you have to resort to insults and name-calling you know you lose in the debate/ conversation so how. When you insult like that you are giving the win to the other person. Since your first comment, you have lost here. You have expressed you can't have a civil conversation or have any rational arguments. You know it that is why you behave so ill-mannered.
You wrote me 1-4, I see them twisting things or not understanding me but really " you're no one for me to explain how was she raped." How did you reach that conclusion? That shows your intentions. You are exposing yourself here. you are embarrassing yourself too. There was not logical reason to write that but to try to discredit me and that was on something I don't know. How ridiculous. That is abusive or reading issues.

"If somebody says NO and you continue. It's RAPE. If no to sex, yes, and Jinx happens differently. what happens after?" (didn't understand this)

When Dan says no... what happens after that changes it.

"ch 3 AGAIN, he forced Dan's head on the mattress and said smthn along the lines of "I'll crush your skull shut the fuck up" idk i forgot read that fucking ch."
now read ch 4, where Joo stops and checks on him in concern. You are cherry-picking to your POV and dismissing the real contents of the story or understanding the characters.
I haven't proved your point.
rape is your pov. The story's pov isn't rape. But this isn't forcing you into a POV or calling you blind or anything negative. I don't find cussing cool or educated depending on how it is done. I find you trying to be cool and how you are using them here would seem to be a compensatory for your shortcomings.

Overall, your comments are aggressive or domineering and carry the implication of a compensatory for shortcomings. You are not resolved or come to an understanding. You are dismissing the story and the arguments that disprove you. You are here to impose. It stems from your insecurities and immaturity. Haters never win. They are cowardly people behind a screen trying to hurt others to feel better about themselves due to they have miserable lives or are sadistic. You are saying you hate something about you and you have seen something here that you wished you could be and attacked instead of joining and filling that hole in your heart.

"Rape isn't my pov but something he did to dan. He didn't have his full consent. Fine maybe not a rapist but a sexual assaulter nonetheless and it doesnt make him any better."

Rape is your pov, you are forcing it on others. In none of my comments should give you the impression that his behavior is better since it is not rape. What are you thinking?

"Or sexual assaulter (since thats your POV)" Rape is a form of sexual assault.. It is not my pov... it is yours too. Basically everyone but the ones that don't see any SA abusive.
The one who has no argument is you. You have no strong argument. You have no credibility. You can't fool people who understand the story.

"ass paragraphs if joo was ugly as fuck and didn't have a great build." BAD AGRUMENT.
I am straight. He is not a woman.
TM is into Dan and finds Joo dull and the story dull.
Rose doesn't like him or the story, and a rape survivor. You would find long messages from all of us with different opinions saying this is not rape but SA and abusive and defending the story.
"You dont even understand that it's rape reread this whole thing and actually think it through and you will realize it's rape.: FORCING YOUR POV. IF you read the whole thing you will realize it is not rape. I read the story many times. I read the story with the rape pov in mind but it does not hold water. No one is defending him and they can call out people mislabeling him.
It seems you keep coming back because you were jealous people were bonding over something they liked and you want that bonding or something else you see here. Your words and actions reveal, so much about you. I think you have many deep-rooted issues to behave like this over a trivial opinion on a trivial story. Why are you trying to silence the real target audience? why are you jealous?

Think before you respond because I will read: The Beast Must Die: I will see you think it is a "masterpiece. I just love how messed up it is" I will take the story out of context to show you what you are doing here. I could do this on: Karasugaoka Don't be shy!! or Kiraide Isasete. You read toxic stories. How do you have a bad interpretation of Jinx?

I can do it now... You are basically trying to get us to believe the uke was raped by the seme in Kiraide Isasete and that is his daughter. The uke was raped but not by the seme and that is not his daughter. We are telling you the seme did not rape the uke. yet, we are "defending" the seme and trying not to make him look worse when we are just defending the story. You are right, your opinion doesn't change what's true. Rape is an inaccurate pov.

The beast must die is under the psychological tag and not under the romance tag.
Kiraide isasete and the karasugaoka the male lead didn't rape them. It's not being romanticized. I am not going to explain myself further on jinx or anything else.

Look.. I will keep it simple if I seemed aggressive or disrespectful that wasn't exactly my intention, I usually come off like that and I am trying to change that. I also didn't mean to impose my opinions like uhh the dude with the blue pfp said. I apologise for that to you and everyone.

Jaekyung has not raped Dan. I don't focus on fantasy stories that "romanticize" rape or sa because I can differentiate between fantasy and reality. They are just entertainment and for people to leave their lives for a bit. They don't hurt real people.

I care more about reality and real rape survivors. It seems the ones on the rape culture and against romanticizing rape don't care about real rape survivors. They continue to prove this on this page over and over for how they treat real-life SA and rape survivors but be against rape culture and romanticizing rape. If they actually cared they would be caring about the survivors.

https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/14494601/?page=3
Rose told the OP she was a rape survior on page 1.
The Op tells the rape survivor on page 2

"I'll shove my bring dick onto your mouth so you can shut the fuck up"

and again on page 2
Fyi BelovedRose, Idgaf if you got raped. I couldn't care any less. If you need sympathy, then ask for your therapist

Let me remind you in their original post they said "ppl who enjoy and find the latest chapter attractive are literally concerning and need therapy."

They literally don't care. They are here to hurt others and made themselves look like a rapist. They are rape apologist.


Here she does not say she is a rape survivor but she gets this treatment either way.
https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/14485105/
a hater to her "Ur a fckn weirdo rape apologist. Your dumbass is trying to say that coercive, violent, intercourse where someone has revoked consent or not even given it isn't rape. Words don't mean different things just 'cause you want to excuse someone's behavior. I don't know why you are so opposed to calling a rapist a rapist. Maybe because social context makes rapists seem more evil to you than "sa abuser" does but it doesn't change the fact that it IS rape. Sa abuse? Rape falls under sexual assault. I'd get next to that fact or defect from society babes."

I care more about her and how she is treated than stories that romanticize rape and SA. The ones that are the loudest about romanticized rape/sa abuse seem to not really care about it all. Nor do they understand why or take time to understand. It is like they feel guilty for liking it. I know enough this is not about the tags or what type of story it is. if it was Rose would be attacked by so many for months now.
One day you will look back and be embarrassed of yourself.

Thank you. I am glad you are working on that. Tora means Tiger. Kaze means wind. Both can be gentle or a powerful force. I know I am blunt.

I do want to apologize to you for my last reply I was not saying that about you. I realize that you could get that interpretation after I walked away. I did not make that clear in that reply. I was tunnel vision on how Rose was treated. I needed to step back. I was talking about the past experiences on here. You have only mentioned it. It really wasn't about you but what you said. Let's say I was sending a message talking to you but not about you. I am sorry if you took that as 'to you.' It was also shared to let people see how a rape survivor has been treated over opinions or whatever that one situation was.

It's ok, don't worry, and i'm sorry too if i spoke harsh without thinking! All good and take care!

Okay now everyone apologizing, guess I have to.

I'm sorry if I sounded rude. That wasn't my intention at all. I simply wanted to have a conversation yeah♡.

You are awesome dear as you are!!

So are you! I followed you back♡.