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kurarisu July 25, 2019 5:56 pm

Just quickly scrolled past the secondary couple’s screen time?

I would genuinely like to read about their story if only it didn’t disrupt the flow of the main characters so often.

    ˙ǝdou July 25, 2019 6:27 pm

    Me lol

    amv.kakashi July 25, 2019 6:35 pm

    if you’re going to be like that, you might as well drop the whole thing all together ( ̄^ ̄)ゞ

    Kitty July 25, 2019 8:00 pm
    if you’re going to be like that, you might as well drop the whole thing all together ( ̄^ ̄)ゞ amv.kakashi

    Or they can just read what they want to read because the couple in this chap is just a filler lol

    ˙ǝdou July 26, 2019 4:53 am
    if you’re going to be like that, you might as well drop the whole thing all together ( ̄^ ̄)ゞ amv.kakashi

    But I love the main couple i don't see why I should drop it.

kurarisu June 11, 2019 1:28 pm

Where the backside of the horse is drawn all detailed and beautiful, but then gradually gets uglier and worse once the drawing gets to the head?

Yeah, that’s Totally Captivated’s plot.

kurarisu June 5, 2019 1:35 pm

It’s been over 80 chapters already. This isn’t a slow burn anymore, it’s torture Not complaining, just enjoying the pain hahaha! Thank goodness for the extras - at least we get a peek into their couple life

kurarisu May 22, 2019 11:11 am

Pregman sounds like a superhero lmao

kurarisu May 8, 2019 1:10 pm

That this manga may have been prematurely cancelled and the author rushed.

Either that, or the mangaka had no idea what trans people go through, because she fell back into the ol’ Japanese straight girl mindset that BL is okay and hot, but making him a transgirl is weird because then they’re a girl and that’s a no-no for BL. And I’m genuinely not bashing on the author, it’s just that a lot of BL mangaka have internalised homo/transphobia that they might not be aware of.

Of course, no way am I saying that every BL needs to end happily. I like the reality that the love went unrequited. However, what I couldn’t accept was the blatant disregard of the MC’s gender transition and acceptance that she’ll be falling in love for the rest of her life for a heterosexual who rejected her. She could have moved on, at the very least. Or lived as a girl whenever she could in her new part time job.

That, personally, feels like as if something went wrong in the publishing house. Please remember that Japan has had the longest history of punishing LGBT+ characters with either death, suffering, or unrequited love. There was just something very suspicious about that final chapter.

    Yaoifan May 8, 2019 4:46 pm

    I agree with you that it didn't sit well with me regarding how the MC kept pining away for a hetrosexual man after being rejected. I would have also liked if she movied on with her live and found love in the gay friend who introduced her to the Escargot bar.

    Not to mention it would have been nice to see her fully embarce herself and her transition process instead of backtrack and playing it safe by remaining a male. Even if meant not fully transitioning and only dressing up in girl clothing.I wanted to see her embrass herself more. Instead of this sad excuse of an ending.

    The only thing I am truly satisfied with is that she did not end up with the asshole Misaki because I couldn't ee that working out at all.

kurarisu March 2, 2019 4:50 am

Honestly one of the biggest flaws in BL is when someone doesn’t tell the other the shit they’ve been told. Though, I would understand that Nemu sees Ruka as an important career figure in his boyfriend’s life and doesn’t want to ruin it. But there’s a line, no? I mean, if your boyfriend’s boss/coworker talks shit to you, realistically you wouldn’t keep quiet?

I hope they resolve this soon with minimum further damage ㅠㅠ

    hataki March 2, 2019 7:24 am

    i mean, i have and will never do that. out of respect for my partner. cause if someone is saying nasty shit to him behind my back, he would come to me, and i would want to know. so you kind of owe it back to be upfront.

    kei March 2, 2019 7:47 am

    I think Nemu would be able to tell things abt Ruka if the 1st thing Maya said wasn't "that's so mean [and some blaming game after that]" but "why do you want that? did sth happen with u n Ruka?"

kurarisu November 23, 2018 10:12 pm

Let me just point out my favourite detail from this chapter that really hits the nail on the Sangwoo/Bum reverse dynamics:

Sangwoo, who’s usually seen by all as attractive, charming, and popular was called a “creep” and “weirdo”. Things that people would usually call Bum. Not once (except with Seungbae) has Sangwoo been unable to play the charming role.

I’m wondering whether Sangwoo will:
1.) Realise this and try to bring their dynamic back to how it used to be. That’ll be bad for Bum.
2.) Kill that girl maybe? And force Bum to either watch/participate or Bum won’t know at all.
3.) I’m also wondering if Sangwoo will really start to act like Bum in the sense that he might stalk Bum the next time he goes outside.

I’m also wondering if, perhaps, Bum was using that money to buy something that he believes would benefit Sangwoo? A present? Or maybe he really was saving money and he kept it stashed somewhere secret? A bank account? Guess we’ll see next week!

kurarisu November 14, 2018 11:32 pm

I mean, we all love a good ol’ heart-thumping, grand romance. But oftentimes it sets the bar too high on the relationships we seek/have. This manga was fantastic tbh, especially when it looks at the reality of finding romance when you’re 1.) Nearing 30 years old 2.) You have access to a narrow dating pool 3.) Rather than grandiose love, you instead seek quiet, stability, common goals, and long-term happiness. I love this manga. It was paced nicely, too.

    Lovechyld30 November 15, 2018 2:28 am

    Thiiiiiis. I absolutely loved how much practicality played a major role during their courtship

    AmuChii November 15, 2018 5:04 am

    I couldn't agree more. It is refreshing to chance upon yaoi mangas with these theme. I mean, sure smut is great. But smut with a good plot is greater. Though smut with really good fluff and ansgt and plot is best! ヾ(☆▽☆)

    kurarisu November 15, 2018 4:57 pm
    Thiiiiiis. I absolutely loved how much practicality played a major role during their courtship Lovechyld30

    I agree! Instead of blindly racing into love, they discussed what might happen in the future and how their lives/preferences/life goals might be compatible with each other’s, like drinking habits, children, and what to do on their off-days. “Is your life practical enough to fit into mine? Is my life practical enough to fit into yours?” Ugh, I loved it.

    kurarisu November 15, 2018 5:06 pm
    I couldn't agree more. It is refreshing to chance upon yaoi mangas with these theme. I mean, sure smut is great. But smut with a good plot is greater. Though smut with really good fluff and ansgt and plot is be... AmuChii

    Hm, that’s sort of what I was referring to, though. Romance stories that focus too much on angst/fluff/drama/smut - the stories that have too much “heart-thumping” plots. It sets the bar too high, sometimes, in the relationships the readers seek in real life. Life isn’t a manga where people will run to you in the rain and hear your tragic backstory, or excuses for all the drama. Others have feelings. People will cut you out before you can even begin your speech. What I enjoyed about this story was how light the drama was, the quickness in which they resolved it, and how practically they approached their relationship.

    Though I do agree, I don’t deny how enjoyable a smut with nicely written drama + fluff is. :)

    Blubeagle December 15, 2018 1:05 pm

    ^^--THIS!

    Brieeze February 5, 2020 5:32 pm

    Mood.

kurarisu October 25, 2018 9:51 pm

As much as the author tried to make me “sympathise” with the girl, it really didn’t at all. Usually, I’m very protective of girls in BL because they get so much shit. But in this one, nope.

BL has a habit of using the “I believed that because I’m a girl, I could win your love”-trope, when in reality it’s this awful, purposely-ignorant thing that happens A LOT in irl LGBT relationships. When someone of the opposite sex sees their crush in a relationship with someone else, particularly with the same sex, they assume that because they’re the opposite sex, they can “win” in the end. That heterosexual relationships will always win in the end as long as they kept pushing for it.

I’ve known plenty of my lesbian and gay friends who’s had men/women pester them assuming that because it’s a gay relationship, eventually it will end. Especially in Japan, where lgbt relationships are commonly perceived as “not legitimate” (remember: gay marriage isn’t legal, and gay prostitution is legal because the government+society believes that anything gay is not real). That it’s not a valid relationship, and as long as you keep ignoring or persisting, eventually your gay/lesbian crush will leave them for you.

You guys can ignore this, it’s simply my own observation from this manga, BL, and the lgbt culture during my time living in Japan.

    SluttySemi October 26, 2018 7:26 pm

    no you're completely right & if you don't mind me asking. How was your time in Japan? I plan on traveling (to various places) the the future and instead of hearing from those who visit with rose colored glasses, i'd rather hear from someone who can make this assessment.

    kurarisu October 27, 2018 11:39 am
    no you're completely right & if you don't mind me asking. How was your time in Japan? I plan on traveling (to various places) the the future and instead of hearing from those who visit with rose colored gla... SluttySemi

    Sure, I don’t mind! I’ve only stayed in Yokohama (3yrs) and Tokyo (1yr), so I can only talk about the urban areas. The work environment in the city is quite difficult, especially when you’re a foreigner like me. One time, I couldn’t get my salary and ended up wasting my time because of bad employers who take advantage of these tricky labour laws.

    Food was incredibly convenient and cheap to get. Visiting Tokyo and Yokohama area really is interesting if you go as a tourist. If you’re not planning on touring the foodstops, save money by buying food from 7/11s and other konbini. Food like pre-packaged onigiri is always a good idea to munch on when you’re walking around a lot.

    Buying individual train tickets is a lot more expensive than using a train pass (I used a Pasmo card). Plus, when you’re leaving to go home from the airport, you can return your train card to get money (usually like 500yen).

    The LGBT scene, which I frequented in Shinjuku during my nights off and free time after work, is quite different if you’re from the West. Certain things and labels like pansexual, gender fluid, non-binary, stuff like that aren’t very common terms but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist in Japan. Some people pick up the Western labels, but mostly the LGBT scene there had their own words for it. You might know some already, like “top/bottom” is “tachi/neko”. Non-binary/genderfluids have their own scene but I can’t remember what it’s called right now. There are daytime cafes, bookshops, and stores for LGBT people if clubbing/bars aren’t your thing.

    Like I mentioned in my post, LGBT relationships doesn’t officially “exist” in the eyes of most major politicians and government officials (but there are those who support!). There is a very, very common social belief that “straight wins in the end, so if your crush is gay/with someone else, keep pushing and you’ll get them”. I remember seeing this gay, interracial couple during a summer festival (they tried to hide a few kisses here and there, and love is always loud to see), and there was this girl who kept shadowing them and asking one of them for their LINE address.

    Yaoifan October 28, 2018 2:02 am
    Sure, I don’t mind! I’ve only stayed in Yokohama (3yrs) and Tokyo (1yr), so I can only talk about the urban areas. The work environment in the city is quite difficult, especially when you’re a foreigner l... kurarisu

    Wow, that was very disrespectful of the girl. And very disrespectful to the LGBT community making it seem like their love is not real and would come to an end eventually. I wonder what would those people do if no matter how hard they tried pestering someone they never end up winning them in the end. I would seriously laugh in their faces. How would they feel if they were in a relationship that no one agreed with and was just waiting for them to break up with their partner? Hearing such things is so sad... Can't people just leave the LGBT community people alone instead of forcing them to be something they are not. Ughhh (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸

    SluttySemi October 28, 2018 2:59 am
    Sure, I don’t mind! I’ve only stayed in Yokohama (3yrs) and Tokyo (1yr), so I can only talk about the urban areas. The work environment in the city is quite difficult, especially when you’re a foreigner l... kurarisu

    thank you so much for your input and keeping it real! I don't think i'd live there, but I do want to travel there and I will take note of those things! & about the couple at the festival I guess that's why so many authors write from the perspectives they do when it comes to the clingy girl in BL manga. With that type of behavior accepted by those major politicians and government officials it's no wonder that it spills over into BL manga.

    kurarisu October 28, 2018 4:42 am
    thank you so much for your input and keeping it real! I don't think i'd live there, but I do want to travel there and I will take note of those things! & about the couple at the festival I guess that's why ... SluttySemi

    Which I understand, but when BL authors write off the “clingy girl” trope as this girl who should be praised, that’s when the trope is perpetuating the “she tried to be pushy and didn’t win her gay crush no matter how many times she tried to make the relationship end, that’s why we should feel for her”. Because that happens way more than it should. The persistent straight guy/girl always gets social acceptance and sympathy.

    I remembered when this girl saw me at work, and she applied for a similar position just so she could get close and ask me out. She and I became good friends so I thought I could tell her I’ve been dating my partner for five years, but she said “It’s not going to last, right? I can keep trying, then.” Then when I complained to my manager about her improper behaviour (I didn’t come out), everyone in the office treated her so well. The male staff would say she’s the perfect wife material, and she would keep asking me out for lunch. It created so much unnecessary tension, in the office and my private life too.

    I just wished authors stopped spilling what the Japanese government and straight society see about these pushy men and women. There’s more than often that last minute attempt in BL to force the readers to forgive the girl. “Look at her crying, she also deserved to have the guy. Of course she’s never gonna apologise for her behaviour, instead she’ll be hailed as the heroine who got them together. What will gays do without the pushy girls?”

    Anyway, that’s all I have to say about the matter. When you visit Japan, I wish you an enjoyable and safe trip :)

    kurarisu October 28, 2018 4:49 am
    Wow, that was very disrespectful of the girl. And very disrespectful to the LGBT community making it seem like their love is not real and would come to an end eventually. I wonder what would those people do if ... Yaoifan

    Exactly! While I understand that straight folks also get their share of pushy men/women who try to break up their relationships, at least hetero relationships are seen as legitimate. Alas, I saw the news about this Japanese woman campaigning for a position in the government, and she publicly said on TV that LGBT relationships bear no fruit and is thus not real, people in gay relationships should find a husband/wife and contribute to society. It made me ill to watch her speak. I wonder how many straight guys/girls watched that and were encouraged to keep trying to break up LGBT couples. :/

    SluttySemi October 28, 2018 7:27 am
    Which I understand, but when BL authors write off the “clingy girl” trope as this girl who should be praised, that’s when the trope is perpetuating the “she tried to be pushy and didn’t win her gay cr... kurarisu

    I'm so sorry you even had to go through that! I was annoyed just reading how she kept approaching you. & sorry this has nothing to do with BL, but it annoyed me all the same. I'm not sure if you read One Piece or not, but Oda trying to make the audience feel sorry for Pudding & Sanji's dad almost made me throw up. Like let horrible characters be what they are--horrible. & Let lovers (and Pirates) live in peace

    Yaoifan October 28, 2018 9:34 am
    Exactly! While I understand that straight folks also get their share of pushy men/women who try to break up their relationships, at least hetero relationships are seen as legitimate. Alas, I saw the news about ... kurarisu

    Wow, what a disgusting thing to say as another human being. Despicable! Well, thankfully that girl who was trying to cling on to you in order for you to like her is (hopefully) out of your life so she doesn't cause trouble in your life again. I really hate when people don't know when to just give up. I sometimes feel like yelling at them "They do not like! So get over it and leave them alone". It is not only disrespectful to the person they claim to like but also to that person's partner.

kurarisu October 22, 2018 6:17 am

I’ll make twenty accounts just to like your crepes photo! ; o;

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