here4Dyaoi's Topics (125)

I feel you!

My bad it is not side story yet...but feels like it

Dawg fr its not funny anymore, like why is it taking so long they’re genuinely dragging it out.

Fr was one of my first and fav bl manwha and now i can't even read it anymore

It’s still on going? People never criticized it, so I thought I was the only one who hated how it changed in a second half. I dropped it after the first time they put SA/dubcon (tho it was SA really) in

Well that happend as well as a new arc were the uke i ghink the name was haebom or smth is having something like amnesia and was kidnapped at some point by the semes grandpa and all in all it's just really unecessecery-_-

I just saw a chapter where some guy is trying to rape him in front of the ML (i don’t remember their names). I didn’t continue to see if he actually did, but what the fuck. I’m glad I stopped reading this fairly early on (not really early on… but considering this is still going on it was). I feel like authors just don’t know when to finish their stories so they put a lot of unnecessary bullshit in

Yeah and i have to say that a lot of bl just add rape as a mental barrier wich a mc has to break instead of an mental illness or something else wich would be waaaaay better

That angle is so out of the blue like how th you insert that after the ending in s3 (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

Majority of BL also adds rape as a fetish. That’s why I am VERY careful of what I start. There’s very little BL’s with no SA, or dubcon

That plus the lack of creativity in manwha, like i read a lot of shit bl bc i geniounly stoped hoping for better now it just feels like watching trash tv or parodys of movies. I do read good bl from time to time but majorty is between yellow and red to black wich is kinda depicting what our society deems as normal

Not only that, but it always worries me how many women are into that shit, cause BL is majorly read by (usually straight) women. Now I do get that some read it due to trauma etc, but as a queer woman it worries me how many women get off to violent and rape’y relationships. After the rise of BLs I’ve seen how many people are just too comfortable asking real gay men questions like “who’s the top and how’s the bottom”. There’s some great BLs, but I accepted that genre as equivalent to lesbian porn for straight men due to how toxic 90% of it is (and also most popular???). I also needed to let 1 SA go with some stories cause of how hard it is to genuinely find any without it

Also, this isn’t the case just for BL but any mature genre. Straight ones and Yuri are also full of rape and problematic tropes. I genuinely think majority of people cannot write good smut.

Fr and u have to add that the fetish of rape was always there but it just now got intresting for women as they don't have to be a part of it but this dosen't justify it slightly or how used to rape and violence as well as gore are, we definetly have a probleme of the way pepole in genrale are with mixing this fitive world with our world and not realising that we have boundries outside the online world as well. I do have to admit that i have become way to used to violence/rape in manwha and such and honestly am grateful as like u said it's only mentioned one time. I honestly can understand the fetish but its absolutly beyond me how u could as these questions in realife or feel that it is normal in any way or form, it just shows how normalized it is for pepole to not know what fantasie and realife is...

I don’t think it only got interesting to women now, cause plenty of mature straight manhwas have it too and women eat it up as well. I can understand that fetish only if it comes from some sort of trauma tbh. But I also don’t like people always going “differentiate fiction from real life” cause like it or not, fiction heavily affects real life, media heavily affects real life. That is why people push for progressive media, criticize problematic tropes, push for inclusivity, etc. Saying you can’t criticize media, or people enjoying it, cause it’s fiction is just ignorant

I'm not saying that the fetish shouldn't be critized i am trying to say that it shoulbe handeld way better and not be added as a way to make some story more intresting or be just brushed off. as u said media does affect realife and that is also why u need a type of media where this issue is adressed and handeld with accordingly as to not glorify rape in anyway in a Relationship.( I like the way you write it feels like a progressive conversation:))

Yeah! That’s what I mean. I do not mind stories with dark themes like rape and abuse as long as it’s perceived as what it is which is rape and abuse and not fetish or glorification. Like drawing rape scenes and making characters look like they “enjoy it”, or fans often saying that uke’s “secretly enjoyed it” and would’ve said if smth was wrong. Like I don’t think I even have to explain why the whole “they secretly enjoyed it” argument is problematic.

Nah fr it gets annoying the only good concept of it i ever have seen was where at the end it was revealed to be a consensuel role play between the couple wich was talked about and had save words aswell as after care tho i will say it still isn't a good conceot as it something harmfull and gets misinterpreted and glorefied sooooooo often. Same with bdsm wich has been depicted so bad in sooooo many manwhas with no safe word or even consent

I actually never seen the first scenario you described, and I agree about BDSM. It’s rarely ever described correctly. Usually it’s just an excuse for abuse

I actually found multiple of them wich often where mangas for u know what but it was really nice to see it after having many manga about the exact other thing, and the thing about bdsm is exactly what u said. Its like they try to say that the women/uke wants it and they are okey with it but most of the time it's just abuse or non con with an excuse of being consensuel

Majority of femdom is the same. It’s just abuse and they try to make it seem like the FL is soooo cool for it

Thank youuuuuu cus why we tryna glorify fml to be like majorty of ml who are suuuuuuucv dicks in manwhas or also in yuri there are sooooo many unhealthy relationships its actually rare to find anything i like

Omg, Yuri yes! Same nonsense even there, either SA or like crazy age gap relationships

Yes they barley ever get charakter development or a littrely written for men by men

I don’t even start them unless I know they are safe