chapter 7 is sexual assault. you don't struggle to give someone a handjob and then proceed after they stop resisting. someone struggles, says no, and stop then you stop. there's no consent anywhere in the struggle. some delusional and below basement IQ person said that there's consent. There's none
delusional people who romanticise rape and sexual assault in yaoi or fetishise gay men should stay away.
I would usually agree with you, sexual assault is a huge problem with the romance genre in general and the fact it is so normalized disgusts and saddens me.
But, I feel like there were excusable circumstances here. Yohan wasn't looking at his mouth when he was saying no, and he seemed to be misreading his body language (struggling = pleasure overload). Besides, due to past trauma, he thought he owed it to him and had to do it. At least that's my interpretation.
Though, I am going to be honest with you. I am just coping. Despite these circumstances, there was still no consent and he was scared into complying, those are the facts. It should have at least been acknowledged by the narrative, though I would have preferred it didn't happen at all. However I've realised if I want to read these stories I'll have to keep coping cause sexual assault is so rampant in romance, especially bl (or yaoi if you prefer that term). It's as if the author can't fathom a man wanting to have sex with another man without being forced, or they perhaps misinterpret dominance as force (I'm not entirely sure).
I can pretty much count on my hand how many romance manga I have read that consider consent and respect as necessities for a healthy relationship. It's awful. But I have learned to set my expectations accordingly because if I just throw them away for it I'll miss out on an interesting narrative (sometimes it is inexcusable, like a full-on assault with no complexity behind it).
I would just like to say that it shouldn't matter what we read in fiction because nothing is real in fiction.....What happened in ch7 would be sexual assault in real life.....but this is just a Manhwa.....nothing about this is real....and even rape in fiction isn't like real rape.....Only some Manhwas that are like documentaries of rape are like actual rape....for example Pearl Boy is real rape because Jooha isn't enjoying that....So just know that if you like something in fiction doesn't mean you like it in real life....like some reader love a stalking boyfriend....but if someone in real life stalked them then they would be terrified...
I would just like to say that it shouldn't matter what we read in fiction because nothing is real in fiction.....What happened in ch7 would be sexual assault in real life.....but this is just a Manhwa.....nothi... BL Army
Been a while since i was very actively reading on this site. My tolerance has become crystal clear. i hate with a passion dubious consent, non consent and most definitely rape. If an Uke says no, then stop or i stop reading. I was sad for a few days because i had to stop reading Pian Pian once it became obvious that the sex scene after the tooth extraction was going to be a monsterous one. Suha was f*ckin terrified and there was no prep. Seriously, punishing the bottom for wanting to have sex and unashamedly enjoying it!!
How does a mangaka go from writing a top as kind and considerate into a psychopathic monster half way into the manhwa? There are caveats to all the above, like i hate being manipulated by the author (which is the case with Pian Pian) so keep an arsehole an arsehole. I'm not averse to explanations for his arseholery and in depth exploration of characters' actions but if there are no consequences then the writing should reflect that the reader shouldn't expect comforting resolutions.
Anyway with all the genocide happening to Gaza thanks to Israel and aided by US and UK etc, I'm grateful when I get to find and read my preferred type of manga and manhwa to get my mind off how Israel's been hiding how they are worse than nazis. Yes i'm a bit high strung on this topic, i make no apologies cos arseholes outchea talkin bout how they love rape, so they can choke on my landscape if any of them come across my profile and don't like it.
Here's the fun bit: i have a filthy mind so please indulge me but only if you're grown grown.
chapter 7 is sexual assault. you don't struggle to give someone a handjob and then proceed after they stop resisting. someone struggles, says no, and stop then you stop. there's no consent anywhere in the struggle. some delusional and below basement IQ person said that there's consent. There's none
delusional people who romanticise rape and sexual assault in yaoi or fetishise gay men should stay away.
I would usually agree with you, sexual assault is a huge problem with the romance genre in general and the fact it is so normalized disgusts and saddens me.
But, I feel like there were excusable circumstances here. Yohan wasn't looking at his mouth when he was saying no, and he seemed to be misreading his body language (struggling = pleasure overload). Besides, due to past trauma, he thought he owed it to him and had to do it. At least that's my interpretation.
Though, I am going to be honest with you. I am just coping. Despite these circumstances, there was still no consent and he was scared into complying, those are the facts. It should have at least been acknowledged by the narrative, though I would have preferred it didn't happen at all. However I've realised if I want to read these stories I'll have to keep coping cause sexual assault is so rampant in romance, especially bl (or yaoi if you prefer that term). It's as if the author can't fathom a man wanting to have sex with another man without being forced, or they perhaps misinterpret dominance as force (I'm not entirely sure).
I can pretty much count on my hand how many romance manga I have read that consider consent and respect as necessities for a healthy relationship. It's awful. But I have learned to set my expectations accordingly because if I just throw them away for it I'll miss out on an interesting narrative (sometimes it is inexcusable, like a full-on assault with no complexity behind it).
These are my two cents, I hope it's legable.
I would just like to say that it shouldn't matter what we read in fiction because nothing is real in fiction.....What happened in ch7 would be sexual assault in real life.....but this is just a Manhwa.....nothing about this is real....and even rape in fiction isn't like real rape.....Only some Manhwas that are like documentaries of rape are like actual rape....for example Pearl Boy is real rape because Jooha isn't enjoying that....So just know that if you like something in fiction doesn't mean you like it in real life....like some reader love a stalking boyfriend....but if someone in real life stalked them then they would be terrified...
I...... didn't....... understand...... a.... word...... you..... just..... said...... sorry......