Kiyora was randomly introduced and he's not doing anything yet, Rin and Shidou barely have any presence and the main focus is Isagi. Ness should pass to Isagi, was really hoping for him to play solo or pass to him instead of Kaiser. People stay hating on my gf but me n Alexis Ness we go through thick and thin! Keep dick riding Ness, even if I don't support you I'll defend you!!
I'm not enjoying the story. It feels like eating flavorless bok choy only to sate your hunger, I'm most likely going to be dropping this for a myriad of reasons. The writing feels sloppy and I didn't enjoy the other characters except from the Lucian, the beastmen, and in the beginning, Rachel.
The ML is a victim of abuse, which Rachel is totally aware of, and despite being the favorite of his father Rachel took barely any action towards the ML's father. Her threat (She won't call the duke "dad") didn't do anything and her attempts were weak and useless. She's a transmigrator, knows how bad the abuse was, has previous knowledge from her past life, was also a victim, and despite this she couldn't stand up for Lucian?
Another thing I hate about the story is how poor the "apology" was from the duke and duchess. That's it? That's it? Duke has little to no consequences for abusing his child? Duchess had little to no consequences for neglecting her child? That's it? Despite Rachel's priority being Lucian, she couldn't stand up for Lucian like she could've and should've?
Additionally, I know it's because she's overthinking things, and because there's families after her, and everything is chaotic but I just don't appreciate how after they finally got together author decides to stir the pot by making Rachel break up with Lucian.
I would read it only to pass the time and not to actually read something I find enjoyable. It's mediocre
I love love LOVE the Kurona, Hiori, and Isagi duo. I love how Kaiser is throwing away everything to improve himself and how he's now, in a way, working together with Isagi.
On another note, I think Ness will be left behind. Either that or Ness ends up supporting Isagi, but at this point I don't know whats gonna happen to him. The game already has a lot of good players, Ness only helps out Kaiser and he's in a bad spot right now. He's called the magician and the beating heart of Munchen, Kaiser limits his potential and without Kaiser, I wonder what he's going to do. Because he's either gonna keep clinging onto Kaiser or let go and finally learn to be independent. Anyway, Ness is my baby and I'll support him to the end of time. Personally, I just hope Kaneshiro does something similar to what he did with Nagi and Reo but just in a more complex manner.
Ella's mindset is exactly that of a kid's. ML keeps saying how she's inexperienced and innocent and it's so weird.
It’s not surprising if Ella wasn’t properly educated. Remember, even the maid who secretly read books was executed.
For instance, have you seen Bridgerton? Many of the new wives didn’t know how seggs works, and the noble ladies were clueless about how babies are made, and they weren’t locked in a tower from childhood. Now think about the MC.
Being clueless about sex is different from straight up thinking love is like those fairytales, her mindset is that of a child because of how she was locked in the tower. That and how the ML acts around her makes the entire premise weird, because he straights up manipulates her.
She mostly IS a kid. She mentions that “when she debuts blah blah blah”. If she hasn’t debuted she most likely isn’t 18, possibly isn’t even 16. At the very least she’s not even considered an adult in her own society as that’s what the debut signifies, so far basically every man in this needs to die in a fire
SO REAL
Learning more about Kaiser and Ness' relationship and I personally think that Kaiser DOES see Ness as a dog. He cares for Ness because he sees Ness akin to a "pet" of his. I think it's definitely because of 1) friendship that he won't acknowledge and 2) his feeling of "ownership" towards Ness. Kaiser says that he liked the soccer ball because no matter what he did to it, it always came back. Sounds similar to his relationship with Ness. Ness is a willing victim of abuse. I'm not saying he wants it. To be more specific, I think he knows what Kaiser's doing is wrong but doesn't care because Kaiser acknowledges him + because he cares sm for Kaiser. To him who was neglected and made fun of for his dreams, Kaiser is some sort of 'salvation' so even insults & physical injuries are "fine". After all isn't bite also touch?
In this chapter we really see how Ness cares so deeply for Kaiser while Kaiser remains with his eyes set on the goal to not feel like a failure. I can't wait for the weird Isagi harem shippers to come here and leave braindead comments again.. (sarcasm if it wasn't obvious enough)
Someone gets it!!
Someone needs to do the thinking!! You either get Isagi stans saying the same thing, weird Isagi harem shippers, or people that don't wanna acknowledge that the Kaiser & Ness trauma bond is genuinely complex and deeper than it seems. WHERE ARE THE LORE DISCUSSERSS
RIGHT And I honestly think that because Kaiser has the mindset of seeing Ness as his “pet” in a way he does care about him. You can still somehow care for a pet and also treat them like trash. That’s how I see it, anyway. But whatver I’m just rambling.
What lore it’s been obvious he treats ness like shit. Y’all always want to deepen their relationship when Kaiser is a manipulative ass and that’s it. He doesn’t care for ness LMAO. Ness is useful to him, you don’t care about someone and treat them like shit no matter your issues. And the time he “praises” ness is when he needs something from ness. I had a friend like that and I don’t get why ppl glamorize toxic friendships. You can like Kaiser for his character (I find he has his cool moments) but tryna make him seem like a better friend than he actually is, is crazyyyy. There’s no complexity, Kaiser is an emotionally abusive insecure manipulative person and ness is a victim who’s also insecure but he’s not completely innocent either.
Also just saw your isagi comments at the end… LMAOOO now it makes complete sense. You’re a kainess shipper. Pls keep that shit in ao3 or Twitter bc everyone hates that ship even regular non shipper Bllk readers LOL
I hope that comment was not for me. I don’t ship Kainess.
Genuinely, please learn about human complexity. You can "care" for someone to an extent while also hurting them. The reason why Kaiser cares for Ness is because he "needs" Ness, because he sees Ness as something he "owns". It's like an artist sharpening a pencil to use, the artist needs the tool that's why they care for it. People are not one-sided beings, a lot of you fail to see that. How you act is similar to how victims of narcissists demonize people with NPD
If hating Isagi harem because the shippers are a bunch of weirdos who fetishize mlm makes me a KaiNess shipper then so be it. God forbid someone dislikes it when people feminize and sexualize a teenage boy and turn him to an "uwu bottom" to ship with "tall buff yaoi tops"
Lol, the comment was directed towards me because I expressed hatred at the Isagi harem shippers. For some reason hating the harem because they sexualize Isagi (a minor) makes me a KaiNess shipper
Stop, I loved the lil pencil example you used.
Ohhh, yeah I saw that too. But thanks for that, thought that was for me, was bouts to pop off.
LMAOOOO ok whatever floats your boat. You’re seriously delusional if you think he even cares about ness. Stop romanticizing their relationship, he dgaf about that boy. And yes most NPD don’t deserve sympathy, I said what I said as someone with BPD. LOL bc your mental disorder is an excuse to be a dick.
I get what you’re trying to say ngl but u need to reread BLLK one more time. Their relationship is mostly transactional, if u want to make it more than it is, fine. But keep it in your fanfics. I’m all for complex relationships but personally analyzing their relationship, Kaiser really doesn’t care about ness, or anyone for that matter and the recent chapters really proved it imo. Maybe he could care about someone other than himself in the future but as rn, he has a one track mind.
Bc I always see Kainess and isagi shippers arguing, I would assume you are one since you’re trying to make kainess seem more meaningful then it is and bringing isagi out of nowhere and saying their brainwash when it has nothing to do with your original topic about Kainess but okay…
Oh! Demonizing people with NPD really isn’t it. Get your issues fixed. If Kaiser never cared for Ness then they wouldn’t even have a relationship now. But I can see that talking with you will do nothing because you’re set on your own thoughts. Calling other people delusional and insulting them for not seeing a relationship as how you interpret it is actually concerning, please go continue talking with your therapist.
If you scroll further from my comment you’ll see me hating on Isagi x all shippers. The reason why I mentioned them is because they’re obviously going to be annoying again and be weird (they already are). Interpreting two characters to have a complex relationship and disliking people that fetishize mlm automatically makes me a KaiNess shipper? I don’t even want to talk with you anymore because of your previous comment about NPD. We can agree to disagree, please go back to talking with your therapist the way you act is genuinely repulsive to me. In the nicest way possible, please don’t reply to me anymore I find you disgusting.
and I will continue to demonize them tf, thinking their better than everyone. You obviously have never even been in a toxic relationship if your junk this is how you treat someone you care about. Kaiser is USING ness. How do you not see that? It’s quite literally so obvious, just take your rose tinted glasses out for one sec and you would see it. They have a “friendship” bc ness continues to useful consistently. Why would he cut off someone who is his personal emotional trash dumpster?
Wah way, you’re pitiably those ppl with NPD who constantly victimize themselves, so disgusting but continues to reply
I don’t have NPD, I had a friend who showed symptoms. She was a terrible person and acted like Kaiser but I don’t think of her as just that because I know that in her own sick and twisted way she cared for me, even if she showed it through degradation and insults. I know how Kaiser treats Ness, because it’s similar to how she treated me. Not once did I say that Kaiser isn’t abusive, I’m saying that he’s that while he cares for Ness in a way he cares for an object he owns, because that’s how he sees Ness. As someone with BPD, I thought you’d know better considering how Cluster B’s also get demonized by people because of how they are. I’m saying you’re disgusting because you lack empathy. You can continue replying to me, I don’t have the mood to talk with you any further and will be cutting our conversation short, I can see that talking with you will do nothing.
That’s just an excuse for them to treat you shitty. Thinking and saying your friend “cared” to make u feel better about y’all’s relationship when it was probably one sided and you can call me a bitch for assuming but idc. I’m not saying ppl with NPD can not care but they don’t start caring about their actions and ppl around them until they really know they have it and go to therapy and it’s a longgg process.
Ppl like us that have BPD tend to glamorize our love ones actions a lot, let them get away with a lot of shit bc we get attached. Imo when I have my “favorite person” and I think I’m in love with them it’s not love, it’s a form of attachment to them bc we have no sense of self. I now know that, idk about u bc everyone is different but yea so ppl that have NPD probably have a similar thought process but not really. Bc you don’t treat ppl you care like that. Hopefully you heal or whatever and me too I guess.
Although I don’t see anything wrong with NPD because the person that has it- it’s not their fault. At least not to me anyway. They want to have constant admiration. And I think with other disorders or disabilities some of them are born with it or diagnosed. Sorry if this makes no sense. So some of them act according to what they are diagnosed with or born with because that’s them. Idk if this makes sense sorry
Just like how some disorders aren’t clearly understood, neither is yours. And neither is NPD. We shouldn’t judge.
This is going to be lengthy but first of all I genuinely hope you heal. I’m cupioromantic, meaning that I want to experience romantic love but I am unable to. Me and that friend of mine were mentally ill, I did not enter that relationship unaware. She was as lonely as me and wanted affection, i wanted to be the one to give her that as I saw myself in her. I am not a perfect victim and I knew what I was doing, I treated her like she was my entire world as I know what it felt like to be alone and I didn’t want her to be. At the beginning of our relationship, she was not verbally abusive and she was kind to me. A part of the reason why my relationship with her ended up being the way that it was is because I treated her like she was above me, and she eventually started treating me as something below her. I was aware of that but I didn’t mind as my perception of “love” back then was different and because I wanted her to use me. I wanted to be in love, I became her friend because I wanted to be happy by making her happy. I was using her just as she was using me. Our relationship degraded, I didn’t know what I want, I hated what I’d become and what she’d become and I wanted us to be just like how we used to be and I wanted her to see me as a person again. I don’t think the way she treated me was right nor do i think the way I worshipped her like a god was right. Me and her made decisions that affected each other greatly as we were both lonely teenagers that weren’t in their right minds. Maybe you’re right that I’m saying she cared for me to make me feel better, but I was still friends with her and I knew everything about her in the way she knew everything about me and I don’t think I can say anything that can make you think otherwise. A part of the reason why I believed she cared for me is simply because when I first tried to leave her she wouldn’t let me. I think the reason why we don’t agree is because your perception of “care” differs from mine. To me, you can hurt someone while also caring for them. I’m assuming that to you, if you care for someone you shouldn’t hurt them. Lastly, I just want to say that you shouldn’t lump people together in a group and think that majority of a group of people are terrible. BPD was and still is demonized by others, people with BPD are called heartless, difficult to love, etc. People with NPD are treated even worse by others, including people in the cluster b spectrum.
Thanks for telling me. It got deep out of nowhere tho LOL. This all started bc of a soccer manwha is crazy. It’s funny bc I’ve been in your spot maybe not the same position but similar like freakishly similar so I get you. I think you’re mistaking her “care”. My person did not care for me, I believe she used me as her lifeline so we bonded over needing each other but it wasn’t real genuine care. I “cared” for her bc she made me feel needed and necessary, same with her. Yalls relationship sounds very similar. Ik you want to think positive thoughts and memories but that’s not healthy. By moving on you should cut all thoughts of “what if she did care” etc. my girl also loss her absolute shit when I tried to leave, I thought for a while it meant she cared but it isn’t that. It’s just what I did for her and now she won’t have that support anymore. Loving and caring about someone shouldn’t be about needs but WANTS. U should be able to thrive without them in your life but just want them there to be and make it happier but not rely on them for your sole happiness if that makes sense. Tbh I’m gonna be real with you, and I’m sorry if it hurts, this is genuine without an offense to you but you need to stop romanticizing your past relationship with that girl, it won’t help you heal at all. Maybe your girl did care or mines did who knows but that doesn’t matter, it wasn’t healthy and a real genuine bond. That’s that. That’s why I hate when ppl glamorize kainess relationship/dynamic but ig whatever floats their boat. Also I have never heard anyone demonize BPD darling, we are heavily romanticize if at all. They always want an obsessive partner. Idk where you are getting ppl dogshitting us tho fuck them tho
*Soccer Manga* This is all started because of a soccer MANGA.
Ok
shipping wars to trauma dumping is crazy some of yall need to realize we ship characters who are toxic and insecurely attached not because we enjoy the toxicity and romanticize it but bc there's more room for character development. in ness's backstory it was hinted kaiser does actually care, turns out its a case of unreliable narrator. idk why u thought u were making a point w the "how is their relationship complex kaiser is just abusing ness" when the mental state of someone being abused by the person they idealize is the literal definition of complex
it's fun to see character A who doesnt actually gaf abt character B start realizing they are just as human and actually develop genuine feelings for them, its the potential of what they could be. anyone who has half a braincell wont let some edgy soccer manga ship affect their irl relationships anyway youre making wayy too big of a deal out of this
Ok I mean ur also making it a big deal by putting in your two cents lol and replied with paragraphs
Please! This convo was ova yesterday. I understand you tried to clear things up but like…
Leave the shit where it is cuz obviously you not about to get through to this nig bro
dude I mean you're still here too... so like take your own advice
you guys got two pages of long ahh essays here im just here bc i like arguing
LMAOO ok good for you then ig?
uhh i dont wanna?
yes!
lol ok, guess everyone in this thread got issues. lets go...ig?
im not traumatized or anything like yall but if enjoying yapping counts as an issue yh ig...?
No Genshin fan has no issues.. Kaveh pfp..?
dude you came into a thread that had nothing to do with you (yes ik its public) to put your two cents into (two whopping paragraphs is still something) obviously looking to start a fight not just "yap" as you so call it with the aggressive tone you had. no one said you are traumatized but u def have issues of your own lol if this is what you do when you're bored. takes one to know one
no literally LOL
whoops got me there
i didnt mean to sound rude or anything but as a kainess shipper pretty sure the thread had more to do w me than you also damn i didnt know having dumb arguments abt fictional characters when im bored was a mental issue guess i gotta look into that
ohh makes sense you're a kainess Stan LOL so I was correct on you having issues haha
correct but how are u just getting that now
idk LMAOOOO I just thought u were a nosy bystander tbh
we all have issues indeed
Ion think my comment was for you, so…
Well “ion” gaf LOL, also you implied that they wouldn’t get through “*** bro” so I’m assuming that’s me
Damn why so rude? I was jus sayin
My bad LMAO. I’m a lil prickly ngl. Well I think this thread has lasted long enough, hope everyone has a good day lol
You too loll
Happy 54 replies everyone alright time to wrap it up
Loved everything and then I saw the stinky comment of an Isagi x everyone shipper. Isagi is a minor, weirdos
curse of being a sport anime mc. they get shipped with literally every character they've ever talked to
Okay seriously Ness needs to either leave Kaiser or for Kaiser to start caring for him. I'd much rather prefer them separating and coming back together once they're better, similar to Nagi and Reo. People still clowning on Ness but me and the 3 other Ness stans say positive!!! Leave my girlfriend with beautiful princess disorder ALONEE