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celedonblue created a topic of Weapon Maker

Not Taehoon busting down the door like a jealous boyfriend the fact that he came in at that specific moment meant that he was eavesdropping on their convo too lmaoooo

Why is Rakrak kinda... Also bit of a side note but I really like how the artist draws female characters in this manhwa! Like how female lizardmen aren't drawn with big busts and long eyelashes, but they're still given enough defining characteristics (i.e. slighter builds, softer eye shapes etc) that shows they're female

celedonblue created a topic of Pick Me Up

I cannot stress this enough when I say I NEED someone to wreck Han in the bedroom. Pegging or fucking idc I need him pregnant STAT

Also great manhwa

celedonblue created a topic of Rugby Rumble

"can't stop won't stop" why is kinzan so unintentionally funny

celedonblue like topic of Hosik's story

Tbh yeah it's true that a lot of BL stories include rape as a trope, but they usually include that trope to either: (1) introduce dark elements into the story, or (2) to fulfil some kink of either the author's or the readers'. For the former, the readers know that it's fucked up because it'll be portrayed that way, and for the latter the readers will know how to distinguish those scenes between real life because obviously there's a huge difference between kink and real life.

And you can usually identify the difference because the story premises are so out there — like yeah if you owe a huge debt to this loan shark that you can't repay, and this loan shark tells you to repay it with your body, then obviously that kind of relationship is unhealthy (understatement of the year, but I digress). So even when authors try to romanticise that kind of relationship, the readers know that they don't actually *want* to owe a million dollar debt and be locked up and raped by some psycho.

But in this manhwa, Sunbae raping Hosik is completely glossed over, even portrayed as comedic, which intentionally normalises and glamourises rape and incredibly manipulative relationships. Sunbae intentionally has sex with a drunk Hosik who cannot give informed consent, and completely manipulates Hosik afterwards by saying that it was fine because Hosik liked it. Starting from then on, he is extremely controlling with Hosik — he tracks Hosik's location everywhere he goes, obsessively checks his texts with his friend, stops Hosik from going out... Even from the very beginning when Hosik goes to the abortion clinic, Sunbae finds him and immediately overrides his decision to abort the baby — which is a huge red flag in of itself, if the blatant rape scene hadn't already turned you off.

And Hosik ACCEPTS IT. He pretty much goes along with everything Sunbae says, even when his best friend (the sole voice of reason in this manhwa) points out that hey, maybe throwing your education and future career away to have the baby of a man you barely know MAY NOT BE THE BEST IDEA. It's actually pretty scary how the entire process of Sunbae raping Hosik, then manipulating him into having the baby and then marrying into his family goes so smoothly, because it's so realistic.

That's the stark difference between this manhwa and other toxic relationship BL manhwas. This kind of relationship can happen to anyone, and this manhwa portrays it as a perfect and romantic relationship because Sunbae is a rich hot guy who showers Hosik with luxuries and affection. When in reality, he's is a manipulative psychopath with wealth and influence who is utterly obsessed with Hosik, a normal guy who has nothing to rely on except for him — he has an university degree, and THAT'S IT. No career, no family support (because you can bet that his parents, enamoured by the glitz and glamour of being in-laws to a chaebol family, will be of little help if he wants to leave), and the one close friend who's actually concerned for him is someone whom Sunbae intensely restricts him from interacting with.

THIS is a true example of normalising and romanticising unhealthy relationships. And you know it's intentional, especially with the side stories about their past lives that poorly attempts to justify Sunbae's actions. I actually feel pretty bad for Hosik because he's basically trapped for the rest of his life. The ONLY reason it somehow works out is because, bless him, he's not the brightest tool in the box.

So yeah, this is why this particular manhwa leaves a bad taste in my mouth. But at the same time, this is just my opinion — if you like this manhwa, you're well within your right to.

celedonblue created a topic of Hosik's story

Tbh yeah it's true that a lot of BL stories include rape as a trope, but they usually include that trope to either: (1) introduce dark elements into the story, or (2) to fulfil some kink of either the author's or the readers'. For the former, the readers know that it's fucked up because it'll be portrayed that way, and for the latter the readers will know how to distinguish those scenes between real life because obviously there's a huge difference between kink and real life.

And you can usually identify the difference because the story premises are so out there — like yeah if you owe a huge debt to this loan shark that you can't repay, and this loan shark tells you to repay it with your body, then obviously that kind of relationship is unhealthy (understatement of the year, but I digress). So even when authors try to romanticise that kind of relationship, the readers know that they don't actually *want* to owe a million dollar debt and be locked up and raped by some psycho.

But in this manhwa, Sunbae raping Hosik is completely glossed over, even portrayed as comedic, which intentionally normalises and glamourises rape and incredibly manipulative relationships. Sunbae intentionally has sex with a drunk Hosik who cannot give informed consent, and completely manipulates Hosik afterwards by saying that it was fine because Hosik liked it. Starting from then on, he is extremely controlling with Hosik — he tracks Hosik's location everywhere he goes, obsessively checks his texts with his friend, stops Hosik from going out... Even from the very beginning when Hosik goes to the abortion clinic, Sunbae finds him and immediately overrides his decision to abort the baby — which is a huge red flag in of itself, if the blatant rape scene hadn't already turned you off.

And Hosik ACCEPTS IT. He pretty much goes along with everything Sunbae says, even when his best friend (the sole voice of reason in this manhwa) points out that hey, maybe throwing your education and future career away to have the baby of a man you barely know MAY NOT BE THE BEST IDEA. It's actually pretty scary how the entire process of Sunbae raping Hosik, then manipulating him into having the baby and then marrying into his family goes so smoothly, because it's so realistic.

That's the stark difference between this manhwa and other toxic relationship BL manhwas. This kind of relationship can happen to anyone, and this manhwa portrays it as a perfect and romantic relationship because Sunbae is a rich hot guy who showers Hosik with luxuries and affection. When in reality, he's is a manipulative psychopath with wealth and influence who is utterly obsessed with Hosik, a normal guy who has nothing to rely on except for him — he has an university degree, and THAT'S IT. No career, no family support (because you can bet that his parents, enamoured by the glitz and glamour of being in-laws to a chaebol family, will be of little help if he wants to leave), and the one close friend who's actually concerned for him is someone whom Sunbae intensely restricts him from interacting with.

THIS is a true example of normalising and romanticising unhealthy relationships. And you know it's intentional, especially with the side stories about their past lives that poorly attempts to justify Sunbae's actions. I actually feel pretty bad for Hosik because he's basically trapped for the rest of his life. The ONLY reason it somehow works out is because, bless him, he's not the brightest tool in the box.

So yeah, this is why this particular manhwa leaves a bad taste in my mouth. But at the same time, this is just my opinion — if you like this manhwa, you're well within your right to.

Look, unlike some of the other comments, I don't care that MC and ML are step-siblings.

BUT the one thing that really grinds my gears is the way the FL spends so much time with the duke, because how are you going to be all close with a man who abuses his son.... Also she doesn't even berate him for it?? She's just like "we should all get along" like BE FR he's the guy who ABUSES A CHILD because of a generational grudge??? He didn't even get a slap on the wrist — the whole thing was just brushed off without him receiving any repurcussions at all!!

Also she never even addresses the root of the abuse/hatred the duke has of the ML like it's so obvious the duke still bears dislike towards the ML but she's just like "welp he's not physically abusing him anymore so it's all good!! We're all one happy family!!" Like are you taking the piss rn.....

celedonblue created a topic of F-Class Destiny Hunter

Gangrim's just going THROUGH it damn someone give him a break boy's getting traumatised left right and centre

celedonblue created a topic of Full volume

"why don't I have grandkids" because your grandsons are gayer than a treeful of monkeys on nitrous oxide

celedonblue created a topic of Ashtarte

"what could the high priest want? He already has enough honour and power" — girl for people like him nothing is enough

celedonblue created a topic of Be the Actor

PLEASE NO ROMANCE It'll be kinda weird too because he's mentally 40+ and she's a highschooler????

celedonblue created a topic of Doctor’s Rebirth

Jesus Christ that went from 0 to 100 real quick — also is it just me, or did the art style suddenly change for the better?

celedonblue created a topic of Doctor’s Rebirth

Don't get me wrong I like this manhwa and I love Cheonhee, but do we really need 5+ chapters just for one fight I feel like there's been so many filler fight chapters in this season that just drags out lol

celedonblue created a topic of Ebony

ML is such a green flag! He takes care of Ebony while making sure she has the room and resources to grow, and never thinks of restricting her like the usual stock possessive ML

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