unbelievable the number of people who downplay the repugnant acts of havi, stalking, sexual harassment and rape.
at the beginning the author throws us 2-3 shits about sexual crime and the laws, but the further we go the more aggressive the harassment is, and of course we end up with a rape, and havi gets away with without any consequences.
she never rapes him what in THE WORLD??? u can say she's not been considerate of his feelings at times but there was never any rape its not even dubious as far as consent to having actual sexual contact. the one time she F'd up so only felt him up and then he called her out and it never happened again.
also she's not sexually harassing him by flirting a bit with him or expressing interest. and ultimately he's the one that maintains contact with her after her leg is "broken" yes ofc she lied adn thats bad. she's not a perfect person. but he's not an idiot or a pushover. im p sure he figured out havi was exaggerating at what point and its clear later on that he does feel affection for her but he's not ready to accept a relationship and even after they date a while it takes him time to be open to sex. thats LITERALLY the premise of this comic. him slowly opening up to havi and sex in general and havi learning to slow down and also to listen more. imo this is a very thoughtfully written story but havi being flawed isnt the same as "excusing rape" or assault. like if yall find havi so repulsive then why tf are u even here except to shout out misogynistic nonsense?
first of all what specific incident are u referring to that would require havi to be in jail? and second of all you guys have a VERY surreal view of how sex crimes are prosecuted in any part of the world (let alone SK where this story is set). if u think a guy aggressively flirting with a woman would put him in jail (esp when thats literally depicted in all of our romantic media...) and a guy having sex with his girflriend that she isnt enthused about or openly consenting to what not only not land him in jail it probably wouldnt even get hime any public rebuke either. like like the comic or not but pls lets not lie to ourselves about how reality works. a man doing xyz to a woman is not ever the same as a woman doing xyz to a man as long as patriarchy is a thing that exists. and thats that on that.
wow i'm speechles, me shout out misogynistic nonsense or you defending rapiest charcters ?
"she's not sexually harassing him by flirting a bit with him or expressing interest", she undresses him forcibly several times and even touches his private parts while he clearly says no and pushes her away, that's flirting for you? normal people call it sexual assault.
and yes she rape him in 58-59 chaptr, so what the law says about rape : "Rape is an act of sexual penetration committed on a victim with violence, coercion, threat or surprise (in the latter case, the victim is deceived by the ruse of the aggressor)."
as you can see ther is many way to rape a person and for this charcters case the rape is : Rape is an act of sexual penetration committed on a victim with surprise (the victim is deceived by the ruse of the aggressor)."
so what hapend in chapter 58-59 : YUL said a clear no to her, he even pushed her away violently, havi pretended to agree, she made him believe that it was ok and she waited for him to lower his guard, and she took him by surprise, several times YUL told her to stop during the rape and she ignored him., so yes it was rape in eyes of law.
....im not gonna lie as soon as u started trying to quote the law at me i was like lmao and didnt read. but im gonna say this, is ur plan now to prosecute and arrest Havi a fictional character for her fictional crime? why are you quoting law to me u buffoon? also again im not discussing legality. i was saying one, that the law is rly applied fairly or consistently in the REAL world when it comes to rape but also that this comic was protraying a scene thats a common kink in many smut comics. thats what I"M tlaking about. THIS comic, THIS scene, THIS genre. i dont want to talk about the macro socio politics of fucking or consent. gdi yall are so boring why are u on this site reading porn if this is all ur gonna say? ur not educating anyone or actually helping anyone, ur just trying to shame people for enjoying a work of fiction that doesnt adhere to ur strict moral politics (that i would bet my LIFE on that u dont hold all comics of this sort to the same degree otherwise you wouldnt even be read this genre period.) and im done with this "conversation"
I'm not here to judge you or anyone who loves stories based on manipulation, sexual aggression, rape, i don't care, and I'm not here to lecture or educate anyone, the only thing that bothers me is the comments of some people who try to pass all this behaviour as flirt/love it's wrong
we'll see if you still think that way if it happens to you irl, and when you talk about it ,the people around you will tell you: he undressed you by force and touched your private parts he was flirting you know, and when he stuck his fingers in your ass by force he was showing you his love, and you will tell them I pushed him away and told him NO several times, then they told you, you orgasmed so you enjoyed it, it's okay.
In short, people are free to have the most disgusting fetishes, but be careful not to make it sound "legal".
the author has 0 imagination for this work, he surely used a software to generate the story and the characters, so much it's generic....
cliche stories are pretty fun to read sometimes tho, you don't have to overthink or speculate about the story, they have their own charm