Jeongcheol - Meanie - Ongniel

Thank u for the explanation

That's right, you don't see it. I suggest you read it again. In addition, there are two chapters that haven't been uploaded yet. But he is. He treats Heasoo like a sex sleeves, he doesn't listen. That ring is only to use as a possession, not to propose to him. He came in Heasoo because he was jealous, when Heasoo told him not too. Heasoo got all the blame for the relationship of their parents breaking up. The forced blowjob that happened in 31 adds to Heasoo's anxiety issues to the point that Heasoo hurts himself (he has BFRB-he pulls the skin off his fingers). Like Heasoo has issues caused by his relationship with Joowoon that Joowom fails to realize and doesn't listen. In the upcoming chapters you'll see, Joowon doesn't even truly know Heasoo. Heasoo wants to stop the mess.

No offense but if you honestly believe that Jowoon isn't emotionally abusive and just wants to propose because he "loves Heasoo", then you should stop reading it because it's obvious that he's not doing it for love. Also, Heasoo and Jowoon are not in a relationship, Heasoo can sleep with who he wants, Jowoon does mind that he sleeps with other people so much to the fact that he cums in Heasoo just to show power over him, tries to give him a ring and talks about Heasoo sleeping with people when he is forcing a blowjob out of Heasoo. So, yeah maybe you should read it again or stop because it went over your head.

I dont wanna create fuss but Heasoo feel guilty about sleeping with Taku. He lied to J when they spoke on video call and H also lie when they having sex and use T when they dont ene have sex yet.
one of first chapters Heasoo admitted He likes to push J and make him angry and crush the wall Heasoo built He even confess to him when they talk about it. Do I think J is right to do something H doesn't want

No but You can push the all mistakes to one side J was jealous and wrong when He come inside but He also have human side as much as Heasoo

First, you can stop harassing me by replying to my replies all the time. Second, him feeling guilty for sleeping with taku is a first and lying to Joowon about it is a first. He's lying because he's developing feelings and he doesn't want to tell Jowoon in addition, he's about to work with Taku, it would be awkward. Third, I was answering the original post about how they don't see Jowoon as being emotionally abusive. So, yeah go somewhere else with the bullshit.

I was trying to polite
I only bring my point of view because I really believe not telling J what he done not because of other reason you mentioned but reason because He felt guilty

You are so defensive about my comments and my intention never harass you
If I feel I add something to conversation I wrote it I dont have secondary agenda

I dont even remember talking to you I dont follow who I disagree in this platform never the less I also try to be careful, talk with kindness over here because some people really seem to forget this is just story

I am sure I dont insult anybody in here or troll
such big accusation for writing comment

Wait J caused H so much anxiety he has BFRB? that’s new to me! and H got all the blame for their parents breaking up? I thought his mom always blamed it on J... I even thought he was nice when he “took” the blame and passed it off as a joke... Well i am not a young child but i haven’t had a relationship my entire life so all my ideology of romance is based on the media i watch/read so maybe i’m not able to understand the toxicity of this romance as much as i should or that the author wants to convey... ;_; But thank you for explaining and suggesting me to maybe reread it again instead of straight up asking me to stop reading, it feels kind of bad cause i know i’m just dumb...

I understand but i didn’t mean that H is at any fault by sleeping around, it’s his freedom and he isn’t in an exclusive relationship so boy do what u want! But the primary reason he is doing it isn’t to satisfy himself but to make J jealous and to see him get angry and jealous cos he feels good about it so i wouldn’t call it manipulative but i don’t think it is exactly such an innocent thing to do (?) if i’m using the correct word that is. What i just mean is the both of them are not right and rather than painting H to be such a victim (he is not that weak mentally) i just feel that they just don’t suit each other well and this relationship of push and pull is not healthy... I think we are all free to our opinions and i of course, read and think about ur opinion before i voice mine cos i want to know what everybody thinks, maybe if u read again u can see what i mean? btw i’m in no way supporting J x H for now.

I feel that we are on the same page here! Not that i am someone who yaknow “supports” bad guys and all, i just feel that it’s not right to push all the blame to one person and make the other look like a “completely deserving of sympathy victim” cos i don’t think he is one (for now) H is still at a lost about what he feels so they keep doing this jealousy game which in the long run is BAD so i do not ship them really but I just don’t see why he is like the absolute antagonist rather than the second lead like they are all wrong maybe possessive and a little twisted but that’s about it? like it’s not really that deep? idk... not trying to make people angry and just wanna hear people’s opinions but suddenly i feel like a dumbass who can’t read ? :-(

It takes two to tango as they say, so Haesoo's not completely innocent in the relationship, sure, since he could just end the not-quite-relationship that he and Joowon have. I don't think he's mentally prepared for that, though, and I think it has something to do with his dynamic with Joowon. I imagine he'd feel quite lost without it. There's some sort of dependence he has on Joowon's approval. I don't quite think of him as a victim either, but he's definitely getting the worse end of the deal in his relationship with Joowon (see what other commenters have said about how he's in a worse situation mentally/emotionally and career wise, I'd add, relative to Joowon, plus some low self-esteem/insecurity issues). Haesoo sleeping with other people with the express intention of provoking Joowon comes off as a way to assert what little leverage he feels he has with Joowon, as a reminder/proof he has some sway over Joowon when he otherwise feels like Joowon's the one jerking him around most of the time. Remember that Joowon has been the one so far consistently denying/downplaying their attachment to each other as some sort of prolonged friends with benefits deal, a.k.a, not a serious relationship to be invested in (even though it isn't really, considering how long it's been). So it doesn't register to me as quite the bad thing some commenters seem to take it as because they're 1) not in an established, exclusive relationship and 2) Haesoo taking other partners seems to be an expression of defiance and not being at Joowon's mercy otherwise and 3) Joowon could probably put an end to it by committing to Haesoo more seriously. I just don't feel any sympathy for joowon on that because the ball is kind of in his court to show that he cares past him simply being possessive over Haesoo. He can't have his cake and eat it too. Hope this made sense... I feel like I rambled.