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Whomp whomp we don't romantize the shit he's done to Ian for years and yall get so mad when other point it out. Of course you t* stans would complain about Jo stans instead of discussing the bullshit tj did.

i was meant to upvote

I never denied the shitty actions tj did thank you don't come crying over things you don't know lmao
So while we're at it with the topic of romanticizing sure let's discuss what j* did when ian was fucking unconscious shall we? :)

I have don't worry and I said the dubcon scene was an unhealthy way to show Jo immoral thoughts and indicate his growing desire and obsession (as both males have been shown to be) and I said one dubcon doesn't outweigh what tj did to Ian for years, putting him in jail and debt and being an direct cause to Ian loosing his dream. Instead how about you talk about how tj never listens to Ian during sex, tj telling him no, he doesn't want to and when Ian says slow down he tells Ian that's what ian likes not taking Ian into consideration. Idk sounds like form of sa too but Ian just let's it happen (which does t mean it's okay). Oh did we forget that he made Ian feel bad for rejecting his sex advantage? Yeah how you call out tj before you do Jo. I'll talk a one mistake and one dubious scene than whatever the hell tj has done.

Already talked abt it imma just copy paste and not waste my time
Tj and Yw know each other since 19 years, have probably been fking together for 14, they know what eo likes and yw is not a little uwu baby that can't stand for himself and tell him to stop. He's a fkin ex gang member who killed ppl in cold blood and in many moments outsidebof sex he is shown to have the ascendant on tj, he says "when have i have even taken orders from you"
If he didn't like what tj did during the sex he would have said it.
The fact is he is submissive in bed like we're shown all through the manwha and tj knows it, he knows what he likes. And if he didn't like it he absolutely could have reacted since atleast he was CONSCIOUS
Funny how you just excuse a fkin assault by saying it's dubcon (it's not he was fkin passed out and then j* took that opportunity to get his fantasm of coming on his face WHICH YW NEVER APPROVED OF WHEN HE ASKED HIM.) and then you bring "yeah but tj also was bad in bed" are you not ashamed bc if you wanna do that no problem bc then let's talk abt other sex scenes w jo where he also says it hurts and to slow down but jo never listens??? In almost every sex scene w him he ends up exhausted and j* keeps wanting ro continue
Btw in the first tjian sex scene where yw says to slow down and says like it's not fair there's a mistranslation bc in the audio he actually says "shit that voice he's not playing fair" or smth like that, he's obviously turned on by his voice
When tj said him "but you like it like that" yw is just embarassed to have been called out like it's just common sense do you really think yw would have slept with tj for 14 years straight if he didn't like what he did to him in bed? Lmao
And when did he make him feel bad for rejecting his sex advance lmaoo he just went to kiss him and said that he didn't want to jump him out he just brought him here to eat bc that's actually what he intended to lmao it's as simple as that yw felt bad bc either he actually wanted to do it (bc he saw a woman there just before and was jealous don't even try to deny it) or bc he felt bad to think that tj just wanted to jump him
For the jail and the accident that's what i said i never denied it, he fucked up and that probably ruined a bit more their relationship which was already kinda bad
However, for the jail : yw was becoming a monster, he said it himself. Tj saw him killing a man in cold blood and not feeling anything after, he probably thought the only way to help him was to restrain him for a bit from the gang by putting him in jail.
For the accident, since they were 15 years old YW was TJ's only family and the boy he was in love with, so he didn't want him to get away but he NEVER wanted him to get injured like that, and guess what, at least after that he felt actually REALLY bad and guilty and wanted to confess that it was his fault to yw.
Guess who never showed any guilt after what he did wrong and even worse just kept things hidden or cleared the evidence? That's right j* (didn't give any fuck after he did whatever the shit was that in 52 and bandaging his hand which was not injured anymore just to make yw feel bad)
You say both are shown to be obsessive and immoral but if you knew how to read you would know tj has passed this point. He was at the beginning, now he really acknowledge syw's desire to leave the gang and stopped holding on to him. He knows what he did was bad and now he left bc the only thing that matters to him is that yw is safe.
And i'll end up this by asking you to think for 2 seconds of why did the flashback of dk abusing was shown right after the reveals of what j* did in chapter 52 and 53 then tell me again that's it's just a mistake and a dubious scene lmao

uhh it’s a yaoi with a love triangle trope, I don’t think it’s that serious lol

Tell me about it. I lose braincells whenever i check the comments and read their takes.

the jo stans didnt like this comment lmao

Reducing such a well written story to "just a yaoi with love triangle it's not that deep" is lame

No but same omg between the jo stans saying he's the greenest flag and yw is a slut who needs to stop making him hope for nothing or those who just keep bragging they want a threesome i'm going crazy

well this is just my opinion, but i don’t find it really well written despite me wanting it to be. started off with a lot of potential, but now plot feels very circular and repetitive after 50 chapters. not to mention that pretty much the only discussion ppl have on this story is ppl arguing over which ml to choose. that’s like the last thing you would want if you want to create a “well written” story with a love triangle trope. no hate to the author but i just feel like it’s not living up to it’s potential. regardless of my opinion, the war going on bc of this love triangle is unnecessary lol