Justanidiothere

You're asking the wrong crowd. Pretty much everyone here is reading bl. Just treat gay people like normal people. Read what you wanna read and but don't be weird about it.

you are more self aware than like 75% of yaoi readers alone by asking this question. you're right that yaoi has a bad reputation of fetishizing gay people. most authors are women and some of them write/draw yaoi as a form of escapism and catharsis from their conservative, sexist society. i would suggest you make some gay friends IRL and participate in pride month if you really want to know what gay culture is like (don't be weird about it). it's quite different from what's written in these fictional stories

Yeah.. i already knew i was asking the wrong crowd... but still worth a try i guess. But thank you for your answer (づ￣ ³￣)づ

just dont be a weirdo and fetishize real gay men lmfao

I already know to keep my bl reading and gay people irl seperated they arent the same as real people just as you said. and tbh some yaoi are just so idk how to describe it, but just fetish content and i try to avoid those a bit. I'm pretty introverted so i dont have that many friends but i do have some gay(?) friends.

But thank you for your answer (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Thats between you and God XD

That's a bit of a loaded question. I feel like most people read BL because a lot of straight and yuri romance/smut stories are lacking. I love Yuri, I'm way more attracted to women, but, I don't read it as much as I'd like since a lot of it either lacks or is geared towards cis men. Everyone and everything is fetishized at the end of the day. Yuri/yaoi/straight romance would all really benefit from a dose of reality. I look at it as you need to approach it realistically and acknowledge there's a massive difference between yaoi and how actual queer relationships work.

lol thats true (￣∇￣")

Don't be like this woman really. ;; https://www.mangago.me/thing/about/686808/

Yes i agree with your opinion. i honestly think yuri and straight smut stories are way more fetishized than yaoi. i tried reading it once and the only thing i saw was boobs everywhere lmao ╮(￣▽￣)╭

But thank you for your answer (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Lol a little secret ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I also dont like those people, i think they shouldnt be aloud to read mangas.

and funny seeing you here! i also saw you on my other post (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Reading yaoi in and of itself isnt a bad thing. I have been reading Boys Love manga since I Was at least 10 years old, only to realise I was a trans queer man. I wasnt reading it to fetishize gay men, because even before I was aware of who I was, I could only ever relate to gay men. So reading Boys love has always been comforting to me. But in that time, I have come to meet a lot of women who dont even support gay people, but only read yaoi to get off on it as their weird fetish. Reading Yaoi doesnt make you a LGBT+ ally, and a lot of yaoi manga I have read shamelessly justify sexual assault and harrassment. I do understand that a lot of BL manga creators are queer women or even transgender men/transmascs or queer men writing under a female pen name, but yaoi usually gives me the ick. Just keep in mind that yaoi and Boys Love (shounen ai ) are not the same, yaoi is almost always just fetishizing male&male relationships, Shounen AI from my own experience is much more wholesome and much more realistic and doesnt justify assault as often. I would recommend Bara (a Genre of manga written by queer men for queer men) but most of it is just smut, and I'm more of a romance type of guy. Danmei is also very good (chinese shounen ai). This genre of manhua has incredibly good stories with interesting Plotlines that dont necessarily Center the queer relationship, but definetly includes it. It usually depends on a manga itself, they have become far less problematic as the years have passed. But I still stear clear from Shounen Ai manga written by straight women because they constantly claim that the Protagonist isnt gay but that guy is just an exception, while they make the only gay guy in the manga a fucking terrible person. Why do these fuckers only use me as a fetish and in the same breath are violently m*sturbating at the thought of calling me a homophobic slur??!?! I hate fujoshis and those types of authors with a burning passion. This is not a threat, I just dislike them for hopefully understandable reasons.

I totally agree with what you said! And I also really hate the assault and rape and all that sort of stuff in bl. I also don't like the: I'm not gay but I do like your dick trope. (If yk what I mean). And I totally agree with your opinion on danmei! One of my fav series is one! And I don't want to shame anyone but masturbating to yaoi is a bit weird imo

But anyways thank you for your reply (づ￣ ³￣)づ
(And if you have recommendations for me to read I'll gladly hear so!)

Personally I read it only to imagine experiencing being loved without being treated like a weak damsel in distress

It's baffling how so many women read bl but hate lgbtq+ people. They take what they want from queer folk and give nothing in return.

I do notice that most female mcs are either the: I don't have a weakness and I can kill anyone or the I can't do anything by myself and I'm just a cute girl type of protagonist and that honestly makes me annoyed since it feels like they don't have any personality

Exactly so it doesn’t even appeal to me after reading that back to back (probably why I have a villainess MC obsession). I just want to read stuff that doesn’t feel misogynistic

why are u asking about morals on the fucking porn site dear lordddswkf

People are curious. Nothing wrong with it.

Herta

God would forgive us for loving the same sex lol , it's not bad don't listen to online people is reading straight stuff wrong? So why gay stuff is wrong? No equal them nothing is wrong with it .

They're equal but it's how you treat them. Fujonshi really do have a bad rep for actually sexualization gay men. It's nothing about the fact it's gay, it's about how the community did treat actual people.

~ Urah

Kinda mean bruh （￣へ￣）

I as fujoshi don't fetish real gay people cuz I read them distinguishing reality and fiction i have gay friends myself so I know fujoshi itself is Japanese term for yaoi readers many people don't distinguish between reality and fiction so it's biggest problem when in yaoi they bring out the real life issue while it's made by straight vwomen for straight women yaoi is not something can represent LGBTQ+ community since large consumption of it's are straight women i know many gay people find yaoi weird and highly disgusting cuz it definitely don't represent them .

If we look at it like that I agree with you

Thanks for your reply (づ￣ ³￣)づ

I think the majority of the people who read BLs with rape included are sick people or people who are too young to understand the gravity of the offense.

I remember that I started out young when I first started reading mangas/manhwas/manhuas. Even if they weren't BL, I would read romance with rape or sexual assault. I wouldn't be okay with it, since I knew that the act itself was bad, but I didn't drop the story immediately like I should have. Instead, I would continue reading it until I finished it, when the couple would get together, and all was forgiven between the two. Sometimes, I would also forgive the offender or I would get frustrated, it would depend on how bad it was, which ALL SA or rape is bad, but as I kid, I guess my tolerance was different from how it is now.


Now I'm older and know better, so any mention of rape, non con, or sexual assault/harrassment between the MCs, and I'm dropping it on the spot.

It's either three reasons

A. Young children who don't fully understand what their seeing.
B. Normalization at it's finest and it's seen as 'not as rape's
C. Their sick.

- Styx

I also had a time where I would continue stories with rape and noncon etc. And as you also mentioned I also sometimes forgave them. Maybe because I was also a bit to young to fully understand when someone really gives their consent. Since most of the times the characters would gloss over it and I would also think it's fine. But like you, I also immediately drop stories with rape now.

And btw thank you for your reply (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Fully agree with you. Because when I was younger I would often not really understand when the consent was given. That was because the characters made it seem okay and not wrong. And yes I agree that people who like rape are sick

And thank you for your reply (づ￣ ³￣)づ

We the same person fr

I like rape in it sometimes….

It’s not the fact that they are being rape, it depends on the situation for me

I hope you know, if it's not like 'I want realistic portrayals' I'll be judging you. Because gross.

Herta

Was about to say the same damn thing. They're either a sicko, or they need to learn rephrase what they say better

Im not mad (maybe a little bit) at you or something but im just curious. Why would you like it?? i really cant imagine someone liking it. but what would you even like about it??

Why would it depend on the situation? imo rape is bad either way it doesnt matter how it happends its just bad. just my opinion tho

i honestly can't even get mad at these people anymore its just sad that these people view this as normal :((