i find it weird how everyones hating on the fl and not the ml when hes also a manipulating asshole who tried to be the only one in fls life like ofc shes going to leave him if he kept lying to her and also did not care to save dietrich even tho he knows hes important to fl it does not excuse the child abuse fl does theyre both messed up but only hating on the fl screams misogyny
God you act like she isn’t literally the reason he became that way. She only wanted to use him for her own benefits and manipulated him into being obsessed with her. While he actually cared for her she only cared for herself. The only wrong thing he did was leaving Dietrich to die and lying about it, that’s NOTHING compared to the things she did.
God you act like she isn’t literally the reason he became that way. She only wanted to use him for her own benefits and manipulated him into being obsessed with her. While he actually cared for her she only c... Sora
It's weird how you completely missed the whole point of him being the only reason she came back in the first place??? He was obsessed with her from the beginning.before they even knew each other he Was obsessed with her. He was always manipulative and controlling. It's so weird how you just glossed over.The fact that he wasn't in love with her.From the beginning as a child he was obsessively jealous of her, From the beginning that was a grown man in a little kid's body. Even if she was using him her behavior towards him in the beginning was that of a caretaker, But he wanted her so that she could Play the role he had for her in his brain. They both used each other but only he Lied and murdered to get what he wanted.
Everyone is hating both of them (as far as I read comments) One betrayed his own teacher and lover and top of it neglect his own child. Another one abused her own Child JUST BECAUSE he looks like ML. I mean what the shit is this!!!! And they are supposed to be main character here. THEY BOTH ARE TOXIC.
Everyone is hating both of them (as far as I read comments)One betrayed his own teacher and lover and top of it neglect his own child. Another one abused her own Child JUST BECAUSE he looks like ML. I mean what... Haru
Just wondering how far the Abuse went because for now it just looks like postpartum depression and her being absent and emotionally neglectful
God you act like she isn’t literally the reason he became that way. She only wanted to use him for her own benefits and manipulated him into being obsessed with her. While he actually cared for her she only c... Sora
yea tell me u missed sm of the plot without saying u did
It's weird how you completely missed the whole point of him being the only reason she came back in the first place??? He was obsessed with her from the beginning.before they even knew each other he Was obsessed... Vghh6
so right!! the ones to blame in the first place for them to be so messed up are the crown prince and princess! like ofc they had to have certain psychotic tendencies in the first place but he literally was abused by the crown princess and started to think of himself as a dog in need of an owner and when he lost his previous owner (that crown princess) he found the portrait of the fl and became obsessed it all literally started in their first life and yes she took him in to take away a mad power of the crown prince but she still took care of him and he also used her idk anyone thats glossing over the mls crimes just missed like half the plot
Yall are actually fckking disgusting for defending a literal child abuser! Also it looks like you two missed a lot of the plot. Read the comment above yours it will explain it to you again. Here : „the amount of people who have no problem with her using a child to seek revenge, then sleeping with him and then abandoning him, and then bearing his child and hiding it from him and making him believe it was another man's child without any sympathy for the fact that the only source of affection in his life was this manipulative and arguably predator of a "guardian" is beyond me. also dietrich isn't dead, and he did go back for him eventually. he just didn't make it on time. except he did, bc dietrich is not dead. it's nonsense that people are piised that he didn't fucking multitask on a BATTLEFIELD SHE SENT HIM TO but have no problem with the fact that he was a child and was only there to help her seek vengeance. ya'll have no heart.“
Yall are actually fckking disgusting for defending a literal child abuser! Also it looks like you two missed a lot of the plot. Read the comment above yours it will explain it to you again. Here : „the amount... Sora
i never defended her i just find it abnormally weird to read other comments only hating on the fl whilst the ml is just as bad yes he went back to dietrich on the battlefield and he was too late but he is manipulative he kept it a secret from her that by then he already had his memories back and KNEW theres gonna be an ambush yet he still left dietrich there alone in hopes hed die and also the fact he took dietrichs stuff so that she didnt even have anything to remember him by when she thought hes dead hes a manipulative ass thats all and yes shes not better either cuz she used him aswell and yes shes also an ass for abusing a child but youve literally missed the point abt why i wrote the first comment in the first place stop just reading parts of my points and making shit up cuz u cant handle ppl calling others out on their misogyny for only hating the fl cuz the ml is hot i literally hate both of them
Yall are actually fckking disgusting for defending a literal child abuser! Also it looks like you two missed a lot of the plot. Read the comment above yours it will explain it to you again. Here : „the amount... Sora
It's just funny atp.. The only reason you people are defending him is because he's attractive Or maybe I'll just miss the entire plot of this manga lmao. He was never actually A child he even said himself that he regained his memories pretty early on And he chose to do what he did from the beginning. He was completely compliant in whatever she was doing as a grown man. He is the only reason they got sit back in the first place because he was Obsessed with (not her but a picture of) her. Him turning out to be how it has nothing to do with her, considering he was Like that from the beginning before they got sent back lmao. He is a liar who lies and tried to kill her childhood best friend, But yeah she should have stayed with him. The only reason they got together in the first place is becauyes he killed the guy she actually liked.And then lied about it for her face when she asked directly. I don't even know how you can deny it at this point.He literally admitted it and he's about to admit it again.
That being said they're both pretty bad people but it's extremely(×3) WEIRD How so many people are only ever attacking The female lead, And acting like the male lead Did nothing wrong ever in his life? And he's just a poor wronged father. In reality, she was probably completely right to keep the child away from him. He one hundred percent would not have been a good father without her probably wouldn't never have tried. At least poor baby had Dietrich to love him. It's also really odd how yellow acting like she isn't completely going Through postpartum.
In The end the only person to blame for his behavior is that prince but he's still his own man and he always has been from the time he's known her. You're letting his face distract you from the way he actually is and always has been.
It's just funny atp.. The only reason you people are defending him is because he's attractive Or maybe I'll just miss the entire plot of this manga lmao. He was never actually A child he even said himself that ... Vghh6
Girl look at the spoilers the ML is a great father and if the FL didnt run away and abused the kid they would be a happy family and the baby son wouldnt be left traumatized bc of his mother. She never once thought what would be good for her Child she is a selfish btch.
She is also a liar and she didnt even intend to tell the ML the truth that she only used him for her revenge. He found out himself but then she expects the ML to tell her everything???
Crazy how yall look at her abusing her own child and go „yes such a girlboss move“ lmaooo there is nothing feminist about defending an abuser and predator
Girl look at the spoilers the ML is a great father and if the FL didnt run away and abused the kid they would be a happy family and the baby son wouldnt be left traumatized bc of his mother. She never once thou... Sora
again ure making baseless assumptions abt ppl defending her cuz we are infact not defending her yes shes an asshole for doing that to a child but still CRAAAZYY how u have yet to see how he is still an asshole aswell okay hes a great father doesnt take away from all the other shit he pulled before that (lowkey cheated on her like if u have a plan abt seducing the crown princess to make her off herself then talk to the woman u actually love before doing so????) the fact he left dietrich to die (i think ive repeated that for the 3rd time already like he KNEW abt the ambush before it all happened and he still left him there to die) and then him continuously lying to her after promising that he wouldnt lie anymore
like he might be a good father but expecting her to stay with a man who kept lying to her and tried to isolate her from others is crazy its literally giving "oh but hes paying all the bills why do u want to leave him" whilst the dude emotionally abuses her (yes isolating her by leaving dietrich to die and then lying to her over and over again is emotional abuse just like she emotionally abuses her child by neglecting it)
and again the fl is also bad we never denied that fact literally? ure ignoring the mls behavior to make her seem worse than the ml when theyre both mentally ill and red flags
its always like this in manhwas ignoring the mls crimes or behavior cuz hes hot and what not oh he had one likeable trait (in this case it being hes hot and a good father) and then just nitpicking every littlest thing the fl does (ive seen it more often than not in this manhwa the fl is indeed an asshole but ive seen ppl hating on fl for being too girly or too soft or whatever whilst loving the ml for neglecting her or abusing her and what not)
like just use ur brain a bit before u continue to argue here cuz it just makes u seem like a mad sexist especially if u refuse to acknowledge mls wrongdoings and only look at fls wrongdoings
like for the 100th time both of them are red flags and for the 100th time the reason this argument started in the first place is because of ppl like u ignoring the hot mls ass behavior and only hating on the fl
i find it weird how everyones hating on the fl and not the ml when hes also a manipulating asshole who tried to be the only one in fls life like ofc shes going to leave him if he kept lying to her and also did not care to save dietrich even tho he knows hes important to fl it does not excuse the child abuse fl does theyre both messed up but only hating on the fl screams misogyny
I agree
God you act like she isn’t literally the reason he became that way. She only wanted to use him for her own benefits and manipulated him into being obsessed with her. While he actually cared for her she only cared for herself. The only wrong thing he did was leaving Dietrich to die and lying about it, that’s NOTHING compared to the things she did.
It's weird how you completely missed the whole point of him being the only reason she came back in the first place??? He was obsessed with her from the beginning.before they even knew each other he Was obsessed with her. He was always manipulative and controlling. It's so weird how you just glossed over.The fact that he wasn't in love with her.From the beginning as a child he was obsessively jealous of her, From the beginning that was a grown man in a little kid's body. Even if she was using him her behavior towards him in the beginning was that of a caretaker, But he wanted her so that she could Play the role he had for her in his brain. They both used each other but only he Lied and murdered to get what he wanted.
Everyone is hating both of them (as far as I read comments)
One betrayed his own teacher and lover and top of it neglect his own child.
Another one abused her own Child JUST BECAUSE he looks like ML.
I mean what the shit is this!!!! And they are supposed to be main character here. THEY BOTH ARE TOXIC.
Just wondering how far the Abuse went because for now it just looks like postpartum depression and her being absent and emotionally neglectful
i agree that shit is postpartum depression so at least for that i can't blame her. but neither of them should have ever become parents.
yea tell me u missed sm of the plot without saying u did
so right!! the ones to blame in the first place for them to be so messed up are the crown prince and princess! like ofc they had to have certain psychotic tendencies in the first place but he literally was abused by the crown princess and started to think of himself as a dog in need of an owner and when he lost his previous owner (that crown princess) he found the portrait of the fl and became obsessed it all literally started in their first life and yes she took him in to take away a mad power of the crown prince but she still took care of him and he also used her idk anyone thats glossing over the mls crimes just missed like half the plot
Yall are actually fckking disgusting for defending a literal child abuser! Also it looks like you two missed a lot of the plot. Read the comment above yours it will explain it to you again. Here : „the amount of people who have no problem with her using a child to seek revenge, then sleeping with him and then abandoning him, and then bearing his child and hiding it from him and making him believe it was another man's child without any sympathy for the fact that the only source of affection in his life was this manipulative and arguably predator of a "guardian" is beyond me. also dietrich isn't dead, and he did go back for him eventually. he just didn't make it on time. except he did, bc dietrich is not dead. it's nonsense that people are piised that he didn't fucking multitask on a BATTLEFIELD SHE SENT HIM TO but have no problem with the fact that he was a child and was only there to help her seek vengeance. ya'll have no heart.“
i never defended her i just find it abnormally weird to read other comments only hating on the fl whilst the ml is just as bad yes he went back to dietrich on the battlefield and he was too late but he is manipulative he kept it a secret from her that by then he already had his memories back and KNEW theres gonna be an ambush yet he still left dietrich there alone in hopes hed die and also the fact he took dietrichs stuff so that she didnt even have anything to remember him by when she thought hes dead hes a manipulative ass thats all
and yes shes not better either cuz she used him aswell and yes shes also an ass for abusing a child but youve literally missed the point abt why i wrote the first comment in the first place stop just reading parts of my points and making shit up cuz u cant handle ppl calling others out on their misogyny for only hating the fl cuz the ml is hot i literally hate both of them
It's just funny atp.. The only reason you people are defending him is because he's attractive Or maybe I'll just miss the entire plot of this manga lmao. He was never actually A child he even said himself that he regained his memories pretty early on And he chose to do what he did from the beginning. He was completely compliant in whatever she was doing as a grown man. He is the only reason they got sit back in the first place because he was Obsessed with (not her but a picture of) her. Him turning out to be how it has nothing to do with her, considering he was Like that from the beginning before they got sent back lmao. He is a liar who lies and tried to kill her childhood best friend, But yeah she should have stayed with him. The only reason they got together in the first place is becauyes he killed the guy she actually liked.And then lied about it for her face when she asked directly. I don't even know how you can deny it at this point.He literally admitted it and he's about to admit it again.
That being said they're both pretty bad people but it's extremely(×3) WEIRD
How so many people are only ever attacking The female lead, And acting like the male lead Did nothing wrong ever in his life? And he's just a poor wronged father. In reality, she was probably completely right to keep the child away from him. He one hundred percent would not have been a good father without her probably wouldn't never have tried. At least poor baby had Dietrich to love him. It's also really odd how yellow acting like she isn't completely going Through postpartum.
In The end the only person to blame for his behavior is that prince but he's still his own man and he always has been from the time he's known her. You're letting his face distract you from the way he actually is and always has been.
Girl look at the spoilers the ML is a great father and if the FL didnt run away and abused the kid they would be a happy family and the baby son wouldnt be left traumatized bc of his mother. She never once thought what would be good for her Child she is a selfish btch.
She is also a liar and she didnt even intend to tell the ML the truth that she only used him for her revenge. He found out himself but then she expects the ML to tell her everything???
Crazy how yall look at her abusing her own child and go „yes such a girlboss move“ lmaooo there is nothing feminist about defending an abuser and predator
again ure making baseless assumptions abt ppl defending her cuz we are infact not defending her yes shes an asshole for doing that to a child but still CRAAAZYY how u have yet to see how he is still an asshole aswell
okay hes a great father doesnt take away from all the other shit he pulled before that (lowkey cheated on her like if u have a plan abt seducing the crown princess to make her off herself then talk to the woman u actually love before doing so????) the fact he left dietrich to die (i think ive repeated that for the 3rd time already like he KNEW abt the ambush before it all happened and he still left him there to die) and then him continuously lying to her after promising that he wouldnt lie anymore
like he might be a good father but expecting her to stay with a man who kept lying to her and tried to isolate her from others is crazy its literally giving "oh but hes paying all the bills why do u want to leave him" whilst the dude emotionally abuses her (yes isolating her by leaving dietrich to die and then lying to her over and over again is emotional abuse just like she emotionally abuses her child by neglecting it)
and again the fl is also bad we never denied that fact literally? ure ignoring the mls behavior to make her seem worse than the ml when theyre both mentally ill and red flags
its always like this in manhwas ignoring the mls crimes or behavior cuz hes hot and what not oh he had one likeable trait (in this case it being hes hot and a good father) and then just nitpicking every littlest thing the fl does (ive seen it more often than not in this manhwa the fl is indeed an asshole but ive seen ppl hating on fl for being too girly or too soft or whatever whilst loving the ml for neglecting her or abusing her and what not)
like just use ur brain a bit before u continue to argue here cuz it just makes u seem like a mad sexist especially if u refuse to acknowledge mls wrongdoings and only look at fls wrongdoings
like for the 100th time both of them are red flags and for the 100th time the reason this argument started in the first place is because of ppl like u ignoring the hot mls ass behavior and only hating on the fl