This and koimonogatari, both are gems that got abandoned by their respective mangaka for another project that sells better. Sad but understandable in a way, because we all need to put food on the table at the end of the day. But still:(( it saddens me because both are my favorite and i couldn't really get myself to enjoy their other works aside from these two because i'm a petty bitch like that
This was my first bl manga ever. I read it about 8 or 9 years ago and i'm glad that this is how i got introduced into the genre. The story is light, the characters are likeable, and i love the dynamic between them. It'd be great if there's a sequel to this, but one can only hope
This is super light and got healthy relationship in it. I like it
And tbh it's not as disturbing as some people make it to be. Like it could've been worse you know, and the sergeant definitely deserved it.
They're gonna end up together. Trust me, i'm paskim's pen.
But for real tho, with how the plot and the characters has been developed until this point, making them going separate ways would be a total waste. I'm not against it when a pair doesn't end up together, i'm sure loving it when it's done right. But there are certain criteria that must be met so that such an ending can still be satisfying. And litc is nowhere near it. Not when both of the characters haven't even completed their own character development nor they reach any closure on their relationship.
So, yeah that's my two cents. Don't come at me if you want that ending just out of spite because you hate one of the characters. Because what's the point on reading the story anyway?
Reading the last chapter with die with a smile in the background goes really hard i'm sobbing my eyes out
Okay gang, here's my thoughts after reading the latest chapter in raw. I think both of them having it rough when the talk(fight) happened. Cirrus with candy deteriorating health and him having to confront the consequence of their fight in front of the convenience store while also hiding it from skylar for his sake. Skylar with the amount of informations he got from dongshit and chanil that indicates how manipulative cirrus was and the possibility that cirrus' feelings are never real from the start, while dongshit might reveal their relationship out anytime.
Cirrus struggles with anxiety and fear of abandonment. The thought of losing both candy and skylar haunted him, and now one of them seems to get realer than the other (thank god candy's doing okay for now). While skylar struggles with trust and fear of being betrayed by the one he loves (aside of his fear of being outted but that's for another topic).
Skylar did give cirrus a benefit of doubt. He even said he's the one who knows cirrus best, that even though it's all turned out to be true he wants to hear it from cirrus himself. But cirrus lied out of fear of losing him when the topic brought up, without knowing that it'll backfires.
Had cirrus honest when skylar asked him, it won't be this bad. Yeah it won't justify what he's done in the past, but it shows his regrets and willingness to ask for forgiveness. So skylar thought that if the feelings are true cirrus sure will be honest with him right? He gotta regret what he's done right? But noooo he just gotta lie with a straight face as if it was nothing. So even after all those tears and sorrys dropped nothing changes because the trust has been broken.
Bet they both felt a huge amount of pain. And we all know how skylar's always responded when someone inflict pain on him, it's to inflict the same or even deeper cut onto them. It's one of his flaw that we all can criticize without hating on him because afterall they're just an 18 y.o teenagers with bunch of traumas and painful childhood.
I have faith that skylar'll regret it later. It'll be a great character development for him. But as of now i think they both needs time away from each other. I also have a faith that chanil might take a step to reach cirrus out first to fix their misunderstanding and hopefully that'll also indirectly help skyrus fix their relationship. Sooner or later skylar will also get to know about the situation cirrus hid from him and maybe that'll make him realize that the feelings are indeed real. And when they get back together they'll beat tf out of dongshit once and for all. Trust guys. Trust.
That's all i have to say, sorry for the bad grammar i just want to vent my thoughts somewhere and it just to be here. Pls bear with me. Thank you
THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR NOT SIDING WITH ANYONE AND FOR SAYING THIS, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO EVERYONE LIKE PLS THEYRE BOTH HAVE THEY OWN REASON
their*
I can't fathom how some people could side with one of them and downright hating the other. As if the goal of the story wasn't for them to be together. Like both of them are complex characters with multiple layers. It would be unfair to judge them by their actions on one occasion without looking for the reasons behind those said actions. Or these two are simply just my babies and i want to protect them from all the mischaracterizations from the fandom
I COULD LOL, i always a firm believer of blaming people who started the problem rather than people who react to that problem. I dont like hearing "they are both wrong" And that "both wrong" people is one the initiator and the other is someone who doesnt like it and fires back. not the same level of wrong.
I know people will always think "Skylar is overreacting" not one, not even one time he started the problem and caused the pain intentionally to cirrus in their relationship, he's always doing the "bad" when reacting to that problem cirrus started. so yeah, I'm probably the rare person in this fandom (the english speaking litc fandom) who openly blame cirrus. as for korean fandom knows that this is the shit cirrus get. the manipulative tag in the official is not there for no reason, that's a special tag only for cirrus
ik that its the consequenses that cirrus would have to face sooner or later, but it was never justified to use cirrus trauma knowing well hes hurt and only opened up to him (cirrus did this too to skylar (but with his own assumption and being annoying) and thats why theyre both wrong) skylar was easily get angry and getting violence, cirrus is manipulative and wronged skylar so many times ik how infuriating it was when seeing ppl only see skylar as the bad guy bc he hit cirrus and said yk in that recent chapter, while forgetting that cirrus got that for a reason, they suddenly forgot what skylar has to go through the whole 2 season (im actually understand skylar action more than cirrus, but i need to acknowledge that cirrus tried to change too and why he did that on that moment) ah shit i cant pick a side sorry bro
the thing is if you read litc skylar bad things are always the reaction. I love both, but come on now, okay they are both wrong, but one person is obviously the cause and that's cirrus. If people want to blame they should put their energy to people who caused it rather than someone who reacts.
in the chapter 116 it might sounds like skylar used cirrus trauma, but you should understand how the conversation went before skylar drop that lines.
basically like this, i shorten it.
skylar : why are you lying?
cirrus : I didnt thin MY feelings would grow, I was happy, I was scared to tell you because I enjoy our time together, I, I, I, me, me, me, MY feelings are real!
skylar (Finally) : How do you know it's love when you never grow up with it, YOU just use me to fill your void.
cirrus : *Standing there stunned, not even trying to deny that statement*
Skylar HAS a point saying that, though I know, with skylar personality he would feel bad and apologize, like always.
In korean fandom, people criticize how cirrus is just standing there cowardly and not chase after skylar. meanwhile international english speaker fandom blame skylar for "overreacting" and being "emotional"
It’s vague to say one person is the cause when their mental health plays a role in it. I do agree that Cirrus has provoked Sky though, and thus leading to Sky’s reactions. I also think Sky’s reactions (beating, using trauma) is too far, but I know it’s valid. I’d probably do the same.
As much as some don’t wanna admit, they went into a relationship too early. They literally skipped the friendship stage, in my opinion.
Skylar wanted to hide their relationship, Cirrus felt that he wasn’t loved or something and felt Sky was distant, leading to more of his insecurities opening up or just worsening.
As much as I did dislike what Sky said, he isn’t too wrong when he said: How can you love when you grew up without it?
I do think it was harsh, but of course things like this will happen when being provoked a lot or specifically here, lied to right in the face. I know Cirrus was scared to lose what they have, so wrong timing, but he really should’ve come clear before they even dated.
But they both rushed into things. I can’t say both are evil, they’re struggling. I can only hope for the best, even if it means they may not end up together. Healing over dating at the moment, is my priority.
Yeah, this webtoon won't be continued. And there's some extras after the last chapter, sadly it seems like it hasn't updated here. But i have finished the novel and if you're interested in the story i think you should go check out the novel! It's really great! My last year best read actually. I love wuyu so much you don't understand, he's practically my son. The story of him and bu chonghua still got a long way to go, hell the webtoon haven't even covered half of it. So yeah, go read the novel! The author is great at writing her story, the translation is readable, and the story will engage you through the very last chapter. Trust me, read the novel!! (｡•ᴗ-)✧
Btw who said that the manhwa won't be continued?
The artist said it in their weibo
Really? ╥﹏╥ So what's the reason they won't continued the manhwa?
Theres was no further explanation as to why the manhua got canceled. But this decision was very likely made by kuaikan because of low traffic of the manhua on their site. Many other titles got canceled for the same reason:(
The camcorder's gone you guys. On the last panel we've seen of him after he got lost bada's still holding it. But on the panel where his face obscured right before he met with doha the camcorder's gone. My theory is the real bada has been killed and the one we saw at the end is not him. Idk tho it's just my silly theory
Point Taken, if your guess is right.... Then the possible killer will be "Doppelganger" or kinds like "Skin Walker" like that and that will harder to identify the Character especially those thing roaming around (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
Well also what IF it's really a "doppelganger" but Bada is still alive and he saw "that" Bada and doha together? Then Doha will be confused of who's the real bada ... That would be epic on how the author will choose on how doha would react on the situation
or maybe that last panel was meant to make us readers jump to conclusions. maybe he lost the camcorder while trying to go near/go back from whatever he was looking at. thats why 'he should have listened' because now he lost/broke the camcorder. but the "i love you doha" throws me off though. maybe he saw a letter or some kind of item that proved to the current Bada that they are actually lovers.
Well that will be hilarious and same time kinda scary if Doha accidentally kill the real Bada and then proceed to suicide himself in order to go back in start
Well another theory that is rising
I just assumed he found his cassette, got his memories back, and forgot the camera in his hurry to get back to Doha.
But the memories in the inserted tape will only load on the next run
THATS SO SCARYYYY OMG I HATE MIMICS
I forgot about that
Well yeah that is another thing, but let us assume that Bada see something that can help trigger his memory like knive carve in the tree or something that spell out the initial of their name in some place in the forest