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AnnaJK September 26, 2019 7:44 am

is nobody talking about how this is rape?! :// love the art but I think I'm done with this one... thanks to the uploader/s! lob u!

AnnaJK March 13, 2019 9:34 pm

I feel (hope) that the creator is preparing us for the next spin off...it'd be cute... I want here u are to be about the main characters from now on bc there's not much left

AnnaJK March 8, 2019 10:48 pm

I came here for the fluff and got this instead :(( I hope this conflict won't last too long

AnnaJK February 15, 2019 3:18 pm

If they end up becoming friends or he's forgiven...it's stupid...idc... Having a tough past doesn't justify your actions. In the end, it was his choice to act the way he did and harm so many people. He has to pay somehow for what he did and the most logic thing is going to jail..he still kidnapped a person (and confined another)...but nothing is logic in this webtoon...

    maychan February 15, 2019 3:23 pm

    this comic is worst then cliche's I guess ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    BV92BV February 15, 2019 3:43 pm

    It'a up to Siwon and Jinha. Jinha already had a very emotional bond to Xuan and Siwon got to know him over the time and built a emotional bond to him too. With a bond it's easier to understand the other person. Both would've acted different if that wasn't the case and with they were filled with hatred. But they don't hate him at all.
    It's one of the most beautiful and known wisdom of life that you can't win with hatred. Human is still human and everyone has their own emotions and reasons and had their own experiences that shaped them.
    Do you want to punishment with jail? It's way too extreme when I think how they all feel about each other.
    Siwon and Jihan chose the right way to make Xuan regret, overcome his pain, free himself from the darkness and start anew again. They decided on reaching their hands out to Xuan and pull him out the loneliness. In my eyes they act very mature. People like that are friends for life.
    Punishment is not always a lesson. A lesson is learnt when the person regrets his actions and change to better and grow as a human.
    His punishment is love. Love that will change him.
    Hurting a already hurt person will change nothing. It will only make a bigger damage.

    AnnaJK February 15, 2019 6:37 pm
    It'a up to Siwon and Jinha. Jinha already had a very emotional bond to Xuan and Siwon got to know him over the time and built a emotional bond to him too. With a bond it's easier to understand the other person.... BV92BV

    I don't think they have to hate him either..they have proven all the time how kind they are but there's a limit to kindness and I hate it when the main characters are too (impossibly) kind just bc they are the main characters...
    Logically...him not paying for what he's done is like not scolding a kid if it does something bad bc he's still young or he's just playing (a mindset a lot of parents have and it's wrong).
    I think that for himself and for his future he has to pay for this bc looking back at the hardships you've been through and regretting is not right in this case (and in any case when someone breaks the law) bc he didn't hurt just Siwon and Jinha...and then start a new life with this new perspective that Siwon is showing him. Not run away but live his life how he wants for once, maybe buy a cat, make friends (you can't say that Siwon and Jinha are his friends as one was terrified of him and the other disgusted for the past few chapters)
    Ik it's a webtoon but this is the only drop of realism I ask for when it comes to anything so I can feel good about the ending...but we'll see...

    BV92BV February 15, 2019 7:50 pm
    I don't think they have to hate him either..they have proven all the time how kind they are but there's a limit to kindness and I hate it when the main characters are too (impossibly) kind just bc they are the ... AnnaJK

    It has nothing to do with kindness, but more about understanding and reaching out to someone who can't make it alone. People like Xuan needs love most when he deserves it least.
    I think only mature and wise people who are in peace with themselves will understand. Not everyone will accept it.
    I think you can't project your example on Xuan, since he is not a child and he understands his own mistakes. If he didn't see it then he'd have gone crazy instead of walking away.


    It is punishment enough, cause he will get the kindness and understanding of those he hurt. He will remember his mistakes everytimes he is with them or remembers them. You have no idea how much psychic strain he will go through. That pain and regret is harder to bear than anything else.

    I wonder what kind of punishment do you have in mind?

    Yes Siwon was terrified, yet he wasn't, Jinha was disgusted, yet he wasn't because it wasn't all to it.

    I don't think the author did a super job in writing this story cause it still lacks some important stuff, but i can see what she wanted to reach.

    AnnaJK February 15, 2019 9:27 pm
    It has nothing to do with kindness, but more about understanding and reaching out to someone who can't make it alone. People like Xuan needs love most when he deserves it least. I think only mature and wise peo... BV92BV

    I understand what you mean but my point was and is: /I/ want realism in their relationship. I'm not saying 'I hate him and I want him to die...I actually liked this character the most but then he got this back story and now I find him too cute. The thing is that he broke the law. Some killers say they regret and will remember what they did for the rest of their lives and mean it but they are not forgiven...and even if they are, bc there are cases, it's not to the point of becoming friends with the ones that forgive them. Xuan broke the law, starting with blackmail and ending with kidnapping and sexual harassment. He wanted to rape them if it weren't for Siwon to figure out the power of the stone! 'I'm Siwon and idc if you wanted to rape me and Jinha, you had your reasons to act like this, you're forgiven, let's be friends, I'm willing to understand you more'...No matter how you look at it, it's stupid to forgive him that easily (I hope they won't). But if he's forgiven, it has nothing to do with maturity, it's just plot convenient so everyone will be happy in the end.

    But it's a story created by someone, they can do whatever it's convenient for /their/ plot (I'm still gonna read it bc I've been here since day 1)...but that doesn't stop me to wish for something that makes sense in this scenario...if you think it's realistic, I disagree...but if you just like the plot so far, that's great, I'm not expecting anybody to want what /I/ want

    The creator was on the right track, I hope they'll get back on it...

    BV92BV February 15, 2019 10:04 pm
    I understand what you mean but my point was and is: /I/ want realism in their relationship. I'm not saying 'I hate him and I want him to die...I actually liked this character the most but then he got this back ... AnnaJK

    Not very kind person is kind. Not every bully is like the other bullies or stays his whole life the way he is. Not very killer is like the other killer. No human can be compared to another human. We are all very complex knitted creature. You can't compare two people with each other only because both suffer depression. Very person and very problem is unique and needs different treatments.

    We don't know how far he would've gone. I mean he got freaking shy when he came by Jinha's touch. He acts confident on the outside, but that's only to hid his weak side in the inside. I don't think he can do the real thing. He was only desperate for being loved.

    It's your way of thinking, but some other like me think different. You can't judge and decide what's right and what's wrong when you're not even in their shoes. I'm someone who would never judge cause the outcome can look very ugly. When i judged people and then found myself in the same situation years later, you can't imagine how stupid i felt.
    It was not my place to judge someone's decision, way of life or behavior.
    If we could read the secret history of our enemies, we should find in each man's life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility. That's what I think
    Life is too short for hate and grudge. Only people who let go of this can find the peace of mind. And yes in my eyes Jinha and Siwon are very mature.

    I also think that the story wasn't very realistic. I think they just tried to make to story keep going. It could've had more potential.

    maychan February 15, 2019 10:40 pm
    I understand what you mean but my point was and is: /I/ want realism in their relationship. I'm not saying 'I hate him and I want him to die...I actually liked this character the most but then he got this back ... AnnaJK

    I agree it just a plot convenient tool cause it a fucking cringy plot
    I already given up on this plot have any realistic thing ever, like Siwon acting like 5 years old and going to drink with someone that kidnapped his best friend and blackmail his boyfriend.
    I wanted what you want from the start (≧∀≦) but I don't think we ever get anything that make sense in this plot or realistic plot in anything at all.

    maychan February 15, 2019 10:43 pm
    Not very kind person is kind. Not every bully is like the other bullies or stays his whole life the way he is. Not very killer is like the other killer. No human can be compared to another human. We are all ver... BV92BV

    in other words, killing is fine for you cause we can't "judge" the person that kill another human been. it is fine to do it, cause hi he have a reason and we can't judge it.
    I"m calling it a big bullshit now (≧∀≦)

    AnnaJK February 15, 2019 10:43 pm
    Not very kind person is kind. Not every bully is like the other bullies or stays his whole life the way he is. Not very killer is like the other killer. No human can be compared to another human. We are all ver... BV92BV

    I agree with what you said. I never said that everyone is the same, the only thing I hate is hate and I don't want them to hate each other either. And I'm not judging anybody, I've never done that, I'd rather get hurt/disappointed than assume and judge others.
    And it doesn't matter if he wouldn't have raped them, it's bad that he just voiced that thought.
    In a normal setting, his internal conflict wouldn't excuse what he did at all and that's why the back story rubbed me the wrong way:))

    BV92BV February 15, 2019 10:47 pm
    in other words, killing is fine for you cause we can't "judge" the person that kill another human been. it is fine to do it, cause hi he have a reason and we can't judge it.I"m calling it a big bullshit now (�... maychan

    I never said that. Sad that you don't understand and even sadder you make up things i didn't say.

    BV92BV February 15, 2019 10:49 pm
    I agree with what you said. I never said that everyone is the same, the only thing I hate is hate and I don't want them to hate each other either. And I'm not judging anybody, I've never done that, I'd rather g... AnnaJK

    Yes, i know what you mean :)

    AnnaJK February 15, 2019 10:49 pm
    in other words, killing is fine for you cause we can't "judge" the person that kill another human been. it is fine to do it, cause hi he have a reason and we can't judge it.I"m calling it a big bullshit now (�... maychan

    I thought they meant that I was comparing Xuan with a killer...but I just wanted to make my point clear: your thoughts, your reasons don't excuse your actions

    BV92BV February 15, 2019 11:01 pm
    I thought they meant that I was comparing Xuan with a killer...but I just wanted to make my point clear: your thoughts, your reasons don't excuse your actions AnnaJK

    You didn't get what i said. I never said it excuses what he has done. There is no excuse for hurting other people. I'm talking about the reasons behind it and that a person never stays the same and you can't judge a person. You can't understand the depth of it.
    There is no meaning in breaking someone who is already standing on the edge. It carries no meaning. Hurting the already broken person leads to nothing, but doing the wrong thing yourself. But helping to heal the wounded person carries alot of meaning for him and yourself. And killing someone is something totally different and it depends on the situation.

    AnnaJK February 15, 2019 11:13 pm
    You didn't get what i said. I never said it excuses what he has done. There is no excuse for hurting other people. I'm talking about the reasons behind it and that a person never stays the same and you can't ju... BV92BV

    wait omg the other person said that you think it's ok to kill a person bc you can't judge them or sth like this and I said that I thought you said that thing bc you thought I was comparing Xuan with a killer...I never said you said it excuses what he's done...phew

    And again...nobody was judging anybody...but you have to agree that this back story is shit and that Xuan was a good 'villain' till he started showing weakness...he really didn't need a sad back story, that is not even that sad...

    And we shouldn't justify evil...never...

    BV92BV February 15, 2019 11:33 pm
    wait omg the other person said that you think it's ok to kill a person bc you can't judge them or sth like this and I said that I thought you said that thing bc you thought I was comparing Xuan with a killer...... AnnaJK

    Ok xD I think we both misunderstood.

    Yeah we shouldn't. But to be honest there is evil in all of us.

    AnnaJK February 15, 2019 11:45 pm
    Ok xD I think we both misunderstood. Yeah we shouldn't. But to be honest there is evil in all of us. BV92BV

    there's a little bit of everything in all of us...but we make our own choices and own up to them and that's what matters and makes a difference

    BV92BV February 16, 2019 12:17 am
    there's a little bit of everything in all of us...but we make our own choices and own up to them and that's what matters and makes a difference AnnaJK

    Love you for this answer ;)

    AnnaJK February 16, 2019 10:25 am
    Love you for this answer ;) BV92BV

    uwu

    maychan February 16, 2019 1:31 pm
    I never said that. Sad that you don't understand and even sadder you make up things i didn't say. BV92BV

    you said, and I Quote, then you won't say I making things up:
    "You can't judge and decide what's right and what's wrong when you're not even in their shoes."
    YEAS YOU CAN!! doing the right thing is always stay the right thing! doing the wrong thing is always stay wrong! like killing. no matter how we judge them or not judge them, killing is the wrong things to do in sociaty. but it never too late to do the right thing! that's my point. it's not about judging or not judging someone been good or evil, it's about what the person did that was right or was wrong. in this you can judge, cause you doing he did wrong.

    BV92BV February 16, 2019 3:26 pm
    you said, and I Quote, then you won't say I making things up:"You can't judge and decide what's right and what's wrong when you're not even in their shoes." YEAS YOU CAN!! doing the right thing is always stay t... maychan

    Then gays are wrong in the eyes of christians, because for christians homosexuality is a sin. For muslims eating pork is wrong. For christians it's their fav food. Law say killing someone because of defense is not a crime act. For a son who killed his father, because the father abused him and his mother and even at the end killed his mother and still got away because the court says it was an accident. What do you think you would do if you were the son? Don't talk lightly. You can't understand if your not in his shoes.
    Who is right and who is wrong.

    You really didn't get what I said, but it's okay.

    maychan February 16, 2019 4:32 pm
    Then gays are wrong in the eyes of christians, because for christians homosexuality is a sin. For muslims eating pork is wrong. For christians it's their fav food. Law say killing someone because of defense is ... BV92BV

    christians is not the law, there is a reason why christians is not the prime minister. and let my say it simply, religion does not have any right to say who is wrong only base on what they believe is wrong.
    again, doing the right thing is not base on religion. cause if it was many people would have been killed by now. people have the right to believe what they want to believe.
    it's not about what you believe or what you don't believe, it's about what you DO.
    again why is killing someone is wrong, no matter what? cause it taking someone else life. why not people go to the street and kill everyone they see, cause they feel like doing it or cause they believe they doing the right thing - it is still WRONG!!
    no matter how much you believe what you did is right, it is still WRONG!
    hurting other's is still wrong! no matter how much you say he defend himself.
    it actually very easy if the son didn't had any choice, then it isn't wrong. protecting yourself is not wrong!
    but the Chinese guy didn't protect himself! he did it knowing it will hurt other's and yet he choose to do it, so no! your claims is not valid here. the Chinese guy is still wrong and did wrong no matter what he believe he did!

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