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Since a I see a lot of people who wants some spoiler + I just love this story so much IMMA SPOIL Y'ALL

SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

so based on my rusty af memory lippie's family was killed by the emperor. yes, the emperor is the villain. it was all because their family can summon the silver cup, which is some magical cup that can grant any wish, but the thing is to summon the cup someone from the rustichel family should be in deep sadness or is hurting, that is the criteria of summoning it. so the emperor schemed for lippie to go through all that for her to summon the cup, and when she did he would basically steal it, why? because he has legitimacy issues and people are supporting the duke ( BECAUSE HE'S THE REAL MF HEIR TO THE CROWN PERIODT ), so he wanted to wish for ultimate power and eternal youth, but In the past she never summoned it because as terra said she was not yet ready. lippie, in this life would summon the cup in the end when Reas/ml was in the brink of death because they are on war / battle with the king. there's also the part where lippie (our unnies and oppas collector) would have more fans YES MORE, and I swear it's cute seeing the ml be fjcking jelly because of her fans. like people would be a fan of her bcs she her singing would undo brainwashing done by the emperor ( since as I said he's having legitimacy issues and doesn't have the commoners supporting him since they support reas as the inheritor of the crown) the undoing of the brainwashing was because lippie stabilized her mana and it was possible because lippie was advised by terra/the big whale to buy the salon which has a lot of ether. ether = life source; more mana needs more ether, that's why she fainted that one time. the king would try everything to sabotage her one would even result in the cutting of her hair short but luckily ML is always there to save our princess.

+ the king and the church knew abt the cup so he was backed by the church in his evil deeds, bcs they want more influence anddddd the country had a lot of places where ether is abundant which they want to monopolize. + the one that did the brainwashing was the "saintess".

+ the king would have a hard time in the present to finish the rustichel family bcs they're gaining a lot more power than the prev life, and them inventing camera would also help with their power but more so on lippie tho.

what about the reas and lippie?
well duh they end up together! but not before our lippie pulled a bakarina and be Mtf DENSE when reas was trying to make her fall for him bcs he be jelly since she have 5 or 6? Men simping for her, they defeat the emperor and reas became the emperor (because he was the real heir to the crown and the king wasn't even supposed to sit on the throne which by the way he killed the his brother, the last emperor and empress who was reas parents and planned to kill him by sending him to war BUT BITCH HE FAILED HAHAHA) then lippie became empress and they have twins years after!

+btw ml didn't go back in time like our lippie but he did have recurring dreams about their past future like their dates and how she died, stuff like that

+ they weren't a couple in the past life despite them having feelings for each other. Lippie was too prideful and Reas was trying not to involve lippie with the king and the struggle for the succession.

as I said this is based on my memory of reading the novel in korean so please don't be mad if I wasnt 100% accurate

tell me what you know, what you wanna know and what y'all think bcs this is some good shit right here, it's just sad that the translation is shit but I mean atlease there's eng translations i guess
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2020-10-15 07:21 marked
Regarding the bath scene—

The webtoon cut out a lot of the detail from the webnovel, presumably to keep the comic reader-friendly. But it’s really not meant to be a “kyaa, pervert~!” scene.

1) Ebony, when she entered the mansion, was a disaster. The webtoon makes her look as if she were a noble lady who’d been starved for a bit, but she was malnourished, disgusting (i.e., oil dripping from her body), hunched, etc. She looked less like a poor girl but more like a wretched beast. In order to get her “clean,” Marsha had to wash her six times. When she was bathing, her figure wasn’t sexy or appealing. You could see her spine protruding, her wounds gaping, her flesh withered, etc.

2) Marsha’s acceptance was what pushed Ebony over the edge, and her crying was goddamn pitiful. It was loud and uncontrollable, echoing through the entire mansion as if a beast were in acute pain. In other words, it wasn’t just quiet sobbing from a touched maiden. It was justifiably alarming enough to make Schneider barge in. If you heard someone cry out from the bathroom as if they’d broken their arm, you’d smash through the door as well, right? Decency be damned, there were bigger things at stake.

3) In the webnovel, Ebony’s guard didn’t lift up her skirt. Her thighs were bleeding from prior whippings (to the point that blood colored her bathwater), and she spent the whole carriage ride keeping her feet to herself, because she was fucking terrified of even slightly touching the guard. This mentality of “I’m dirty, I’m filthy, I must not touch anyone, I must be aware of my status” stuck with her through the entire bath.

4) When Schneider barged in, Ebony’s bathwater was filthy— imagine gunk and blood floating in the water. As she was sobbing, he stepped into the bathwater and proclaimed that if she were filthy, then surely he who was plunging into this shared water with his shoes on, he who planned to wash her and break all notions of propriety, were the truly filthy one. Schneider isn’t some dense 20 y/o. He knew what he was doing was downright shameful.

5) When Schneider said this, Ebony didn’t truly understand what was going on. She continued sobbing into herself, face under water, and it was only when she looked up that she realized that Schneider was in the water with her. When she flinched away, Schneider embraced her, her unsightly figure be damned. And again— he knew he was acting improperly, and he told her that he was the one acting shamefully. It was after all of this that he confronted and talked to Ebony.

6) In general, Schneider is characterized as a 30+ y/o who’s cold and terrifying (e.g., he’s said to have the devil’s own eyes), and very much someone who does what he wants. This isn’t him being immature, but rather him knowing what he wants and being willing to break rules, norms, expectations, etc. to achieve his goals. The bath scene is an example of this personality. He needed to reach Ebony, and he could care less about acting improperly because in that moment, neither Ebony nor he were truly dirty. Their shame was just something dictated by unnecessary regulations— Schneider’s by common decency and Ebony’s by the country’s laws.

Disclaimer: I’ve only read bits and pieces of the beginning of the webnovel. There might be more that I’m overlooking or something I’m misrepresenting. That said, I thought this scene was poorly depicted in the webtoon (since I was ??? when I first came across it), and I wanted to provide a bit of context.
2020-07-03 20:22 marked
I've posted before about this without spoiling, and it physically HURTs me that people are giving out wrong spoilers based off some google translate thing they didn't even bother to cross reference. A lot of spoilers are out of context of the whole story and omits SO MUCH so i'm going to explain it as best as I can, referring to my previous post. These spoilers are coming from the novel version btw, and whether or not JAXX choses to adapt them will be another issue altogether. But anyway, here goes.

There are several major factors and characters I shall address.

1. Ryan (Blonde dude from earlier in the series)
He has a much bigger role in the books than in the webtoon thus far, but idk how big his role might be ahead because he has a major role to play in the latter half of the series. As far as I know, he is NOT a love rival or anything of that sort. There has never been and isn't going to be anything romantic between him and McQueen at all. He harbours certain hatred McQueen for reasons, blames him for a lot of his ongoing issues and he has a lot . He has a son, with a prostitute and he also seems to have drug issues and is generally pretty messed up. In the novels, he and Ed live together, and McQueen and Ed have meals with Ryan and his son Cecil, even helping to take care of his son because Ryan isn't really the best parent.

He is actually the main reason why Ed and McQueen break up. But more on that in a bit.

2. Ed and McQueen
In the books McQueen is seen doing a lot more porn that in the webtoon to begin with; here he seems like he does more of the background work like directing etc. But in any case, novel McQueen and Ed BOTH continue to film porn with other partners, although Ed only ever bottoms for McQueen after. In the novels, there's no confession at the train station. They get together, but there's no actual verbalisation of the "I love you"s till much later. So although they're making porn with other people, they're also not exclusively together in the books at this point. I believe McQueen initially hoped to kind of do couples porn with Ed, but at some point after they do both stop doing porn anyway. But in any case, obviously the webtoon should differ from that.

Third parties are never a major major issue in the books for our main pair. They do love each other, although it takes a much longer time for McQueen to verbalise it there. Yes there is a 'love triangle' of sorts with Chang, but the feelings of the main pair never wavers for each other, although circumstances in the later parts do drive a wedge between them. The McEd pairing is actually quite fluffy in the books as well.

A major plot point in the novels. revolves around McQueen's writing of the movie's script. A journalist basically finds out that McQueen is the director of that movie, and it makes the news. Its huge news, and it goes on broadcast that a pornstar directed a religious movie. The website is being overloaded by views – and the site Ed's audition film with McQueen (for a DVD) is on there. The next day he goes to work, its obvious that all his coworkers know about his doing porn. Ed is asked to resign from his job as a security officer due to security reasons.

Upset, Ed then tries to contact McQueen, but he is unable to call through to him. This is because McQueen was being hounded by journalists at the time and he explains it to Ed. They then talk about plans for the future, like going on a cruise and stuff. Ed gets a little drunk, and confesses he watched a porno with McQueen and Ryan. More context on this is that Ryan and McQueen did something like a 'non-consensual' kink play? It's not actually non-consensual and its not rape for sure, but Ryan apparently has a history of sexual assault prior and told Ed before that McQueen exploits vulnerable men for money i.e. something like he basically did the shoot because he was in a vulnerable position (drug issues money issues etc.). Ed watched the porno, and then tell McQueen he agrees with Ryan that what happened was rape. McQueen is livid to think that Ed could think something like that of him, and says something along the lines of "I can't believe I was falling in love with you". They break up and don't contact each other for weeks after that.

Ed gets a job at the airport, but its not very stable. Prior to this, Ed had already stopped doing porn was also working for Chang doing some security, but he stopped that too after the porn reveal and hasn't contacted Chang since.

Lancer contacts Ed who is now in high demand because of the porn reveal, and asks him to do escort/prostitution work with him (He gave him an Escort card way earlier in the novels I think as an invitation already). Ed wonders if McQueen will find out, and then decides that he "doesn't care" and so on New Years Day, Lancer tells him that he's got this client and that Lancer raised the price on him (because of his high demand); Ed doesn't know who he is, but he turns up anyway. The client is Chang.


3. Chang
Chang hasn't met Ed since the porn reveal, New Years Day is the first time they're meeting after the reveal. Chang doesn't believe at first that Ed actually came, and Ed tries to walk away after realising its Chang. But Chang physically grabs him and tells him he paid for him, showing him the escort card he took from Ed's apartment (given by Lancer earlier). Chang offers to make Ed's debt disappear – if he stays beside him for a year. Ed considers and then refuses thinking this guy is the one who even ruined his life by saddling him with this debt in the first place. They argue, Chang makes jibes about Ed doing sex work and Ed, fed up, asks him if he wants to be fucked. Ed pulls down Chang's zipper to prove a point.

Then Chang pushes Ed onto the bed and starts getting physical with him. At several points, Ed says it hurts, and that he wants it to stop. Chang mocks him, bites him, and continues anyway. Ed tries to punch him to get away from him, saying he's changed his mind and telling him to stop. He grabs his clothes and tries to escape several times but fails. Chang r*pes Ed. In this interim, Ed realises that Chang has had feelings for him all along, and that he's just been trying to ignore it the whole time; after the deed is done, he asks Chang if he likes him – and Chang doesn't confirm or deny it. Ed tells him it doesn't matter because Chang is dead to him anyway, and tells Chang he wants to ruin him, like Chang ruined Ed.

He walks out (Chang is still there), to run into McQueen – Ed wondered previously if McQueen was going to find out about him doing escort/prostitution work so he clearly did – McQueen tells Ed he didn't want to break up with Ed in the first place, tells him that he loves him, and that he wants to get back together. Ed wants to say yes, but he just had sex with (was raped by) Chang, so he doesn't respond, just leaves both men without saying anything. McQueen and Chang fight, and Ed sees McQueen again the next day; McQueen tells him he doesn't care about the whole Chang thing, and they get back together.

McQueen tells him he's quitting porn for him and selling the company, and tells Ed to check his bank account – $500,000, which is the amount he owes Chang. Chang actually confesses his feelings to Ed after this, and Ed tells him he doesn't care and to check his bank account, that's his answer. Essentially he pays off his debt, and from there he's saying that they no longer will have any ties to each other.

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So essentially I wanted to clarify a few things.

Ed didn't lose his bodyguard job because of McQueen but the journalist actually, and McQueen didn't abandon him because of the reveal at all. He had a huge debt to Chang – but McQueen didn't pay it off probably because $500,000 is kind of not pocket change?? He sold his company and paid off Ed's debts. McQueen is not the cause of Ed doing escorting; that's Ed's choice. Their break up was NOT caused by Ed not wanting to do an adult movie with McQueen.

McQueen and Ed's relationship is complex, and ultimately human. They make mistakes and there's miscommunication and there's arguments of course, but there's also reasons why certain things unfold the way they do. The novels are way longer than the webtoons, and lots of things have been and will be taken out. So bear in mind that too.

I hope this helped in some way and if anyone else is going to bullshit about the 'spoiler' without knowing what they're talking about again i'm going to hit the roof.
2020-03-04 18:57 marked

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