Vincent deserves better...He's highkey worried for his friend, but Joseph is going about his trauma very irresponsibly. Jospeh need some mental help ffs. <]:)
Just curious, but how exactly do you go through a trauma "responsibly"? I know therapy and talking about it helps a lot of people, but everyone handles things differently. Besides, his trauma literally happened minutes before Vincent got so upset with him. Vincent has the right to be worried for his friend, and he is a good guy so far. However, time frame-wise this is not the time to be manhandling Joseph or pushing him to talk about things he isn't ready to talk about.
I agree that they could have all handled everything differently and Vincent is worried about his friend, but what Joseph said after being attacked by the professor is true, too. It is his life, and he gets to choose who to tell what about it. He should have gotten help, but he's trying to keep up the appearance at least of being strong and independent. It's also a lot more difficult for a guy to ask for help in situations even remotely resembling this one. Society puts a lot of pressure on men to stand up for themselves. Even if the idea of machoism is gradually changing, it hasn't changed enough or in certain areas to make it easier for men to seek help when being stalked or attacked. I haven't seen anything so far that actually makes me think Joseph is being a "headass". You might react differently in his situation, but I think his reaction has been fairly commonplace so far.
its extremely insensitive of you. people who are dealing with traumatic effects dont act rationally when it comes to "triggers" (that word annoys me since its used in a more meme sense these days but its the best word for this situation) and maybe you dont understand it but ive gone through similar things. maybe not to the degree of joseph in this manhwa, but when someone does something that reminds you of a traumatic event that happened to you, often youll react in a way that cant be easily explained within reason. its sad but to me joseph is justified reacting the way he did to vincent considering what just happened. its not vincents fault and joseph knows that but he still cant help but react like that because hes afraid
You talk as if im being ignorant, Ive had some pretty grotesque things happen to me that Id rather not talk about too. I don't have a "trigger" for them and while I do keep it to myself and not tell others, I dont worry my friends and keep them on the sidelines worried. And if they were to ask if I were okay Id say something even if it were very vague instead of yelling at them saying, "its my life I dont have to tell you" It seems immature to me. As Ive said before, everyone is differnt and go about these things differently. In my case he couldve handled that problem more maturely without yelling and running away. Keep in mind that this is a manhwa...im not gonna argue about this ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
I stand by what I say
Joseph need some help
And still a headass in my case
But go off sis <]:D
that's my issue with Joseph as well I can completely understand that everyone processes trauma differently. Secondly that people are entitled to their privacy and are not required to disclose information they are not comfortable sharing. However with how long Vincent and Joseph have known each other Joseph's behavior rather than simply a direction reaction from his triggering experience comes across as rather petty and immature. I don't know if it's the author's intentions but that was how I interpreted the moment.
I think you’re the one being an head ass sis i rest my case ;)
Like what you said you have had bad experiences too so you experiencing it in the first hand should know better than others that every one is different on how they deal with such situations and that every one has their own coping mechanism like Joseph being defensive and such. You have no right nor any one to judge it and call someone dealing with traumatic event as ‘being immature’. What he said might be wrong for you but just like you said if were in the situation you would tell your friends and etc. but then again that’s you.
I don’t usually bother with this kind of arguments because like what you’ve said it’s just a manhwa and maybe it is but what bothers me the most is how you look in this as i know a ‘joseph’ in real life so calling them a ‘head ass and immature’ ain’t it. Although i do agree with some of what you’ve said you could have worded it better.
Lmfao understandable i guess.
Theres just too many ways in which he could have prevented actions. (Like the teacher incident, that was throwing red flags everywhere..)//
I keep repeating myself but hear i go once again..In my case he could've handle his problems better instead of running from them. IE: someone breaking into your house and brushing it off, running away from an open ear, and lets not forget about not being cautious of his surroundings. These can potentially cause his downfall sooner or later. In anyones case, the ways that the teacher treated him would send red flags to anyone...or its just me?
But I get everyone is different, but just because I understand that everyone is different--doesnt mean I agree with their ways.
I dont usually comment either bc ppl always start an argument bc their views are different. Which i completly understand. But its a social platform for a reason. Just bc my opinion is unfavored by someone doesnt mean im inconsiderate or rude. Im stating my opinion bc its what i believe. Obviously the mass audience that liked my comment thinks the same...so they think he's a headass too <]:D
Nah. I understand completly Joseph's réaction. Years ago, i was raped by a very very close friend and, even if i did know that all of my guy friend was't like that, i couldn't bear to be touched or alone with a man. It was in my chest and i couldn't fight with it.
Joseph intimaty was violated by a guy. I understand that the thing that you can't have your own secret garden, that even your best-friend yell at you to know zll of your life, it can make you crazy.
Hear me out. A heat between an alpha and omega makes people lose their rationality, so in that case, SOMETIMES sex is not consensual but in fact instinctive. However, since Dojin is an alpha and Heesoo is a beta..it would make sense that there is more rationality during sex-- hence there are no pheromones or heats. Of course Dojin is more alert about his partner bc hes npt blinded by a heat. NOW if we were to make heesoo an omega, could we really say that there would have been consent in that situation?? Hmmn
//let me know what you think
This question would have been better asked in the earlier chapters with the main couple. On many occasions the scenario you described occurred.
The whole point of this chapter is no heat sex.
If you want to discuss consensual sex pertaining to the chapter; why didn't you ask if a drunk person can have consensual sex? Then there wouldn't be all this confusion about the question.
Some people are saying that its a "too slow of a burn" and "it keeps going in circles"...thats what happens in real life. People dont understand-that for most, they don't understand that they are hurting and putting up walls to keep from getting hurt again. This is relatable and lovely work 12/10 (● ̄(エ) ̄●)
100%! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧