ever since kdrama is announced people are coming here as pro navier pdro rashta ... navier was born as empress and wanted to remain that .. if a someone start eying for her place ... u want her to back down? rashta was a victim too ofcourse she will do everything to survive of course it was easier to manipulate her coz shovishit never assured her anything he was still crazy about her ex.. henry ofcourse he will strengthen his own kingdom why would he give a fuck about magicians from other kingdom who are the people who he has to fight in future being a king is already a place filled with filth... the only person who deserves to be hated is sovishit .. fuck him i am glad he never got redemption arc or something
Facts wrong you got wrong: Sovieshu's deal with Rashta was that she would ONLY be an empress for A YEAR (bureaucratic processes for getting Gloriem to be the next heir take 1 year) after that she would be deposed and allowed to have her mansion somewhere.
Reason why Rashta never prepared, study or even eyed being an empress and wanted to be Navier's friend first. She never had planned or was interested in being an empress long-term. She knows she can't.
She never planned to """""" steal """"" Navier's empress title. Reason why she proposed to be allies at first with Navier. BUT Navier's supporters, her lady in waitings, family brother and family started mocking and humiliating her during gatherings because their husbands and unmarried sons were loose men (flirted with her) and because Sovieshu openly and publically empathize Rashta is more important to him than Navier. In this situation where people are gunner her, and her own background is natural that Rashta ended up doing the same thing the other ladies did to her (bad mouth them).
so what u want to say ? sovishit is clear now coz it was just a deal ? empress should just accept everything and accept someone else child and begone for a year only to be played like toy and accepted again? rashta should just go back after she already stepped foot in deep shit and politics.. u would want to ally with some one who ur husband is currently fucking after so many years of relationship? i dont understand who are u even supporting.. all i said evryone has their own circumstances and all were selfish
+ Navier is SUPER JUDGEMENTAL. Which is fair the woman stole her husband. But here's the thing.... Navier has been aware from the start that Rashta is ignorant about etiquette and prob has childlike-regressive mind etc yet somehow Navier believes Rashta is clever enough to pull stunt to humiliate her????
Rashta has no role model when it comes to etiquette except her Abusers-Masters, Navier and her ladies in waitings aka people that abused others and throw accusations with repercussions. Just like a child Rashta imitated them: abused her servants, did crimes (bc Sovieshu showed her a monarch is above the law), wore red dressed just like Navier who she admired and wanted to be and spread lies in court just like Navier's ladies and waiting did about her.
I'm supporting anyone. Everyone is trash in this webtoon. Replying only because you seem to just want to parade that Navier is some sort the person in the right here. Navier was equally a selfish person. She's portrayed as someone that deeply loves her empire yet despite knowing Rashta cannot handle her job she ditched everything to elope to save face.
I recommend having a reality check Navier DID nothing when her friends, family and ladies in waiting started a smear campaign against Rashta. She's not some sort of victim here.
did i say she was a victim.. he has an ambition to be empress and she achieved that.. people who have been sitting on power too long always cling to that... what u want navier to do? giggle with mistress? adopt their child ? or leave for one year and come back to the position? is she a toy? i know she is selfish so what every one is in this webtoon? she always helped people behind the scenes ( rashta claimed that checkbook or whtever) but she has a life too u want her to always sacrifice everything for her people etc and accept everything shovishit throwing at her is stupid ..
plus i know rashta was manipulated and shit but when navier moved on to another kingdom she still came showing her face there for whatever reason she wanted to feel superior.. she did many evil things .. being manipulated is not a way out for her.. still i always gave her benefit of the doubt and blamed shovishit.. but rashta was too greedy for her power too she would never have benn satisfied with 1 year contract pr something ? sovishit never assured her so she made a way for herself and got manipulated for the same.. the only person i blamed in my comment is shovishit
Your inserting your own narrative... Rashta NEVER mentioned in the novel/webtoon she wanted to remain empress after the 1 year dead line. Never. The only reason she defended her role as empress was bc she grew aware and has confirmation that deal was off and a crowd with pitchfork are waiting outside her window.
Your claim about Heinley actions being ok is bulshit too. Mind you, Heinley thinks and has the mentality of Putin and trump. He rage wars to gain something he doesn't give shut about commoners. Edgy is under his command and he entrusted edgy to create the web of rashta and sovieshu's downfall. Pointing fingers that only Sovieshu is to blame is just bullshit.
what the hell heinley is good for his people u want him to think about the whole world .. he is doing good enough to protect his own people .. thats how a king and country works shovishit is a threat to his country he wanted to make his country an empire like shovishit .. u want him to think good for everyone that is realistically impossible.. like i said before i never said rashta was wrong she did everything to survive as well she made wrong decisions too... what u are saying i already mentioned before that rasta already stepped into the filthy politics so going away after 1 year was realistically impossible for her too .. are u dumb? of course the decisions sovishit made came to haunt him later thats how politics works .. i dont get it what u want heinly to do anyways? u cant even see what dumb down version u made in your own mind
idk man but he should just accept he is fuck
ass poor .. if he is spending on you anyway just complete your study and pay him back in future .. what do u even want to do now .. run away ? doing part time to give back pennies? drop out? like bro someone cleared your debt helped u in scholarship coz u didnt accept money .. like bro U ARE POOR world is unfair whats the point of ego if you just get bread crumbs at the end of the day .. u are damsel in distress anyways .. someone push u off staris someone punches you like .. choose your struggle babe
whatever helps you sleep bro .. i have seen people losing and regretting to their last asset because of their ego ... things like this doesn't work in real life .. in manhwa he will somehow miraculously escape , get a job , pay the debt and ML yearns etc .. but in real life he will be shot outside by loan sharks or grind his whole life to pay
if ML wasnt there loan sharks would already had sold his organs .. his father already had destroyed his future with more loan and he wouldn't be in college.. tho confining him is wrong but MC attracts danger like magnet ML is overprotective they can talk things out. i hope MC runs away tho to see his reality .. but like i said it will miraculously work out unlike real life
like i said even if debt isnt this doesnt make his situation better .. there are still people out for his organs either way .. i have enough empathy to see reality. MC is not responsible for any of this shit he is in thats why ML was helping him .. but u all are not seeing MCs bitch ass behavior only blaming ML thats what i dont like if perspective was from ML side u all would have been like he is protecting MC aww .. its all about perspective
the problem is not the money you dumb cunt yeonmin even accepted taeseo's gifts and card and living with him (even if reluctantly) bc he understood that that was how the seme showed he cared for him!!!! the problem is that he did NOT really need another scholarship, and he was happy to live in ignorance (he literally drives it out of his mind if the suspicion arises) about if it really was his father who paid off the debt, if it kept him out of his life; but the scholarship money and the ever evolving need to have him at an arm's distance even when taeseo was who told him to enjoy his student life, and the no-label bullshit he keeps denying to both of them is whats wrong!!!! taeseo himself doesnt even acknowledge that he likes/loves yeonmin in his own head!! he keeps trying to control every single thing about yeonmin's life without yeonmin's say so bc he 'finds it pathetic' bc bro doesnt have the balls nor self-awareness to own up that he doesnt want yeonmin to leave him!!
happy to live in ignore lmao its called delulu .. all were cheering when ML was helping behind the scenes and shit .. now its exposed so its MLs fault lmao .. tho ML is wrong to confine and shit u cant just gloss over the fact that MC is annoying as shit .. u all just want ML to do everything.. what did MC even contributed in this whole relationship..
well i never spoke of morality nor empathy i was just pointing out that the issue with the MC and ML stems from the ML trying to control the MC through money when it HAS BEEN established that MC does not care for it bc he wanted to EARN his freedom so to speak through his own means and merit, HE TOLD ML that he was happy bc now he does not have to worry about the debt and the ML told him to dedicate himself to his studies, then gets mad when he does so, bc he cant see through his own bullshit mentality that pushes him to throw money at his 'problems' when he should just tell MC that he likes him back.
YES! MC was suspicious of how his "father" paid off the debt, but he was willing to lay dogs lie bc it meant that he would not have the loan sharks tailing him everywhere he goes anymore. And we were cheering for the ML bc he took some of the weight off the MCs shoulder, but the scholarship was pointless bc he already had MC all domestic and shit in his house, driving him around and spoiling him with new clothes and outings, it was unnecessary bc the MC already told him constantly he liked him!!! also you say that MC is annoying and contributed nothing, but ML was exactly where he wanted to be; he liked it just as well that MC cooked for him, hugged him and waited for him at home, and reassured him as well as he could with how little ML gave in kind in terms of actual emotional reciprocation :P
cooked for him is emotional reciproca but paying his debt is not ...
u know what just villianise ML at this point.. everyone has their way of expressing things... i am not saying ML is saint like i said 3 times above confinement is wrong but least MC can do is talk and try to understand .. not throw everything in fit of anger... it just create more misunderstandings .. ML just wanted him to breathe .. by giving him schlorship its not like MC would have accepted if he gave him without that drama
you are not even apologetic just justifying you abisive language well its you upbringing what can i say .. to earn his freedom he could simply leave its not like MC doesnt know what kind of person is ML he stayed with him knowingly .. its not like out of nowhere ML's hidden face is not revealed or something .. u cant see just how immature is MC rn .. whatever helps u bro .. i have my opinion u have yours
that's the problem with your opinion. in the first place, doing something extreme for someone like paying off a huge debt should be communicated well first with the one you're helping, especially when they have deliberately told you that they want to do things their own way, so they get to choose if they want to or not. disrespeting their autonomy is a controlling move even though you think helping with the debt is financially beneficial to the MC, because you don't get to decide what should be beneficial just because MC lacks options. the ML prefer to love-bomb when it's better to just communicate his feelings
you think MC have not contributed anything to the relationship? relationships are not ledgers. you literally contribute TRUST, and MC gave every ounce of his even though ML has been so confusing. ML's help, while generous, came with strings attached (secrecy, control, disregard for MC's wishes). that makes it less of a help and more of a leash. MC's anger isn't ingratitude or pride. but a legitimate response to having his boundaries and autonomy disrespected.
i hope you don't enter in a relationship with this mindset.
i am not asking him to contribute something extreme all i want him to do is understand and communicate.. coz because of his pride ML is hiding everything.. like i said i am not saying ML is right but atleast he deserves a little bit gratitude for taking care of things for him.. outright saying get side i am leaving after all this .. just makes MCs ungrateful in my opinion.. i want him to walk away , study and do everything he wants .. but u cant deny the fact he is ungrateful.. ML is problematic too...again i am saying i am not defending ML here .. i am just giving my opinion for MC
yes cooking for the ML is an important aspect of their relationship and you can see it by how the ML gets smug about it while telling his secretary that he would not be attending dinner meetings from that point on— he is excited at the prospect of having MC at home cooking for him bc it shows that he cares and thinks about ML and considers him an important part of his life by saying "if i cant cook breakfast for you, then let me cook you dinner every night". when you juxtapose that to ML going behind the uke's back bc he knew that he would not want the money on those terms, then his intentions do not come across as "i want you to know that you dont have to worry about this issue, I've got your back" but rather "i paid this x amount of money for you, so now i *own* you, even if you dont want me to"— keep in mind that this hits very close to home for MC bc its similar to his situation with his dad: his father took a debt in his name without him knowing then left him to fend for himself, then all of a sudden appears demanding even more money from him, how could this escape MC's mind when the ML is doing the same (even if he's "giving")? mind, he still doesn't tell him that they are more than sexual partners. Also, MC is the one trying to talk and understand and he wasnt throwing things in anger when he confronts him, ML just dismisses him and calls him pathetic.
Just for the record though, its not like i dislike the ML, i find him frustrating yes but i think the story is progressing quite nicely and from what raws ive seen i think it would do him good to be without the MC and get time alone to reflect on his actions, although i dont think he will get there for a long while
again this same shit .. did i say i want ML to own MC? i am tired of typing again again i am saying just dont be ungrateful bitch ... and run away from misunderstandings ... i am just them to talk and reach a conclusion .. idk what are u all typing .. but all i was doing is bringing reality to fiction that in real life if he ran away or never met ML they would have sold his organs or something ..
i think she doesnt have any frelings for noah now thats why she said yes to white hair and she feels scared for her child and bad for surrogate children .. there will be more drama ig but i hope everis alive .. plus u cant sympathise with noah .. 7 years is not short ... miscommunication is partly his fault .. who would talk to him if all he says back is who are u to ask that we are in contract relationship etc ..so ofcourse she would be scared for her child .. i am glad she healed and is happy .. i hope they co parent or something
i thought u all were just seeing it from FL perspective and u were wrong u cant just force anyone to like u .. but u know what that sob proved me wrong .. i understand his life and shit but using someone who likes you and behaving this rudely just bcoz she cant hate u is disgusting and disrespectful... he isolated that brown hair girl so she relies on him only.. thats why she left him .. he used clueless girl gave him hope shattered it .. u know that u can respectfully say no too... and that selfish sob in the end blamed her even knowing everything... FL idk why she is so hung up on him ..i hope she moves on gain confidence and good friends .. if she goes back to him begging i am gonna go on strike outside author nims house man pls









why would i ? omg u won my heart lady