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thank youuuu, getting outa here

wait what chapters are you talking about??

Chapter 3-6 is considered rape. A scared person clearly not consenting, saying "no" and "stop" - and the other person not listening and respecting that no? That is rape.. I stopped reading after chapter 6. Felt horrible to read that.

I started chap 1 but jumped to the comments so I can see if it was worth the read. :/

I think I'll skip those chapters and try to see cuz I'm genuinely curious. Are there any other rapey chapters I should look out for so I can avoid them??

I'm curious about the other chapters, not the ones with rape. Thought I should clarify since I don't want the sentence to get confused lol

It's like 90% accurate historical fantasy manhwa, which unfortunately does mean 'rape' or at least 'dubious consent' (especially if we're talking about those in higher position)
However, 1 - I wouldnt say it's exploitative, like it's not fetishized, tho of course the transgression is minimized
2 - ufff, I don't know how to say it in better way, but it's not violent or cold-hearted and it gets better. In case of MC, he probably wouldn't be interested in sex overall for another 1-5 years with the prince or whoever else. But I'd say it's very possible that he would organically grow to want to be intimate with the prince over time. I'm trying to say that Doram does like prince and falls in love with him, just initially he's scared of him, so of course sex with him would not be smth he wanted to do.
3 - very important: ML is a prince that is sure to become emperor at some point, so we know what his upbringing was like. He's also actual reincarnation of god, he's very distant and dissociated from human experience. He has understanding of all the emotions that ppl show in court related matters, but oblivious to all subtle things happening between ppl when they're intimate. Cause of his god powers other ppl emotions would always be on the surface, however it doesn't include Doram, so he's blind emotions wise when it comes to him. It wouldn't be far fetched to compare his inability to recognize Doram's feelings as an autistic person would or even when being told at first, not being able to empathize with those, since also he had never experienced those.

Basically, it gets better, ML pretty much learns empathy through his desire to understand Doram and win his affection, but it doesn't happen immediately or goes without issues. So to some a lot of or all their interactions would be 'rape' as Doram can't truly gives enthusiastic consent as he likely sees it as part of his duties. But I think for those that can fully take context in consideration it becomes very obvious that Doram starts to enjoy the prince's company outside and in bed rather quickly and if he wasn't so shy and pure he would potentially initiate things himself.

acuuracy is a funny thing to say. you're telling me the author put gods and deities in the story but just HAD to put rape there for 'accuracy'. Something being common doesn't make it normal or okay. Pedophilia was common in before, does that mean I want to see it. And perhaps you can accept redemption of rapists, but don't accept others to

*expect others to

No one said it was okay, same way that genocide, mysoginy, homophobia, racist, child abuse, torture and lots, lots and lots of murder, violence, assault of all sorts of nature
I have inclination to think that you accept at least some of these as part of historical novels, film and comics, even when historical time period is used as background for fantastic plot
Or do you not? Then there's likely a single piece of historical media you can consume, so then whatever you're doing here begs the question
Is rape worse that child abuse or is torture of war criminal isn't as bad as incest between brother and sister?
I would raise representation and exploitation in conversation, but you conflate being 'common' and 'normal' and 'giving chance for redemption' with 'beint appologetic towards'
Oh, condecending much? Apologies, cause you were coming at me with a good faith, huh?

Oh oh oh!
Right! Before any rape occurs in the story, it very directly said Doram and his friend are both slaves, Doram then ambushed and beaten
So I guess you're fine with representation of slavery and people being treated like things, having no free will or choice, since it didn't raise any red flags for you
Or are you saying slavery isn't as bad as rape?
Or did you think when Koreans say 'slave' they mean smth else?