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Since they don't know who Josh's partner is yet, I don't think that's a big deal bcs in this universe marked omegas/alphas won't be affected by others' pheromone, no? Like Keith did back then after Yeonwoo marked him.
Or am I wrong?

They know Chase has a deep hatred for Omega's, and never slept with anyone (ha joke's on them) despite going to pheromone parties, this is their second time guarding Chase .. That's why they didn't think anything strange on the situation ..

while it's true that pheromones wouldn't be detected, as an outsider looking in to this relationship (hence, ignore the reader's privilege into the mind of chase) it would be unwise to simply rule out rape, perhaps as a symbol of asserting dominance over the alpha who had already marked josh

Wait what's with rulling out rape and asserting dominance things? none of them ever thought chase was interested in josh, right? they even knew chase had never been involved in a relationship (with an omega or a romantic relationship), no? like chase doesn't have any interest in those romantic feelings since they believe he's a sociopath or something..

Exactly, from their perspective, Chase didn't have any interest in Josh as a beta. However, having his identify as an omega revealed would change things.

Like, imagine that this is not an omegaverse for a second: Josh is a woman hiding as a man, and after being revealed as a woman, the man with the most power in Josh's life who is rumored to have slept with a dog says to come to his bedroom with all of the birth control that Josh has. --> You would absolutely no rule out rape!

Now, let's say that in addition to that, Josh is married; meaning he is emotionally and legally tied to another person, but we don't know who. In order to feel like a "bigger, more masculine man," there may be incentive to sleep with Josh.

That's why I say they also believe that chase doesn't have any interest in those romantic feelings.. whether it's with beta, omega, or with a female.
Don't you remember at the event they attended, Chase was clearly being approached by an omega (and especially a woman), she even released her pheromone, but what happened was that chase felt nauseous and annoyed, right??

You're the one who said that we should look into it from their perspective, not the reader's, right? What I said from the start was from the perspective of Josh's colleagues tho, and based on their universe. Wasn't you the one making assumptions that were too wild and out of context of their abo universe?

And after all, what you're worried about didn't happen. Just activities based on each other's consent happened, no?

First, there's the issue of 'taste' or 'type' – the team has yet to witness Chase be intimate with someone, but it doesn't mean that he has not interest, rather that no one around him had currently piqued it. You state it exactly above, the omega Chase was disinterested in was a woman, which would not rule out a preference for male omegas (I don't believe the story gave an example of this, but I could be wrong).

I don't think it is outlandish for me to make assumptions about their universe as Chase has obviously had sexual encounters that he can't remember (Josh may not be his only encounter). Additionally, rape is frequent trope in ABO that this author includes throughout their storyverse, meaning that it could theoretically be possible that the story would go that direction –with that in mind and the reader's privilege, it will not go that route, but real life differs from fantasy.

Additionally, please clarify your final question: as the next chapter has not been updated (and I am not aware of the raws), we cannot confirm or deny what will happen. Josh has yet to hand over the suppressants, if that that is the consent you are referring to. Sexual consent has yet to be requested by either party. Should Chase force Josh to hand over the suppressants, this would be considered theft, intimidation, and/or assault. Should Chase follow that with sexual acts, that could be considered sexual coercion, sexual harassment, and/or sexual assault.

My point in all of this is that the ease of which the team lets Josh go to Chase is a glaring plot hole because no sane or competent security team is going to overlook the risk of sexual assault.

Well, what I got from your long text is just you forcing your wild assumptions into the story, that won't even happen at all

And you're not even consistent enough in your argument. First, you ask me to see it from their perspective, which I had been doing since the beginning without you even asking. Next, you suddenly made an assumption that Josh is a woman disguised as a man and got caught, but when I remind you of the incident at the party they attended, which involved a WOMAN who was also an OMEGA and had PHEROMONES, you suddenly bring up the 'type' and 'taste' lol. Here, I remind you again that chase (also) almost killed (or just threatened) josh, for more than once, so it's not that josh is his type or something lol
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Instead of forcing your wild assumptions, I suggest you just read a little bit of the novel. So you can get the point of my argument.

I think you are misreading some of my comments:
1. My argument has been consistent: I never stated that Josh was a woman in disguise –that was an example of what this scenario could look like in the real world. My position the whole time is that it is illogical for the security team to allow Josh to see Chase privately because Josh's newly-revealed identity as an omega places him in a vulnerable position with alphas, especially as a sexual conquest as determined by Chase's request for Josh to bring his suppressants.

2. The point about the female omega stands because Josh is a male omega and the real-world scenario does not apply because we moved back into the fictional realm. In the fictional realm, Chase may be attracted exclusively to male omegas.

3. Expressions of love and lust are not always pure, hence why even though Chase could threaten Josh, Chase could still consider him a sexual conquest (if you think this is a fanatical assumption, then you have limited real-world experience –there are plenty of men who have raped women they are aggressive towards).

4. You say "assumptions" as though I am declaring them as fact –I am not. Every assumption is preceded by "may" or "could," which indicates potential uncertainty.

5. I fail to see how reading the novel is relevant when I'm discussing the comic. They are different forms of media, so while the novel may do a better job of handling this scenario, the point remains that the comic simply leaves a large plot hole that spells 'incompetency' for the security team. The author(s) should not expect that readers will engage with both forms of media.

idk korean either but m assuming that his name cha eun jae where jae sounds like J so he took his name by flipping eun jae to J ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I think it's juste that jaeeun sounds like J in English that's it

sayoung is essentially saying euijae reversed his name to get the hunter name "J". euijae can be pronounced as ee-jay (for english speakers at least)

ohhhhh that's how "eui" is pronounced, it all makes sense now. Thanks!

I think the problem is tamura is such a cheap guy lol

Not all enemy to lovers trope is exciting some just didnt work out

I watched heated rivalry

They are the ultimate switch couple, the hope that they might end up together is the only reason I still read the manga lol

wydm by cheap? (asked with curiosity, not animosity)

Thank you that was good