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yall js love to throw the word pedo around like it’s nothing

Don't fucking read it judgemental bitch, slinging around labels you dont understand as if you're the ultimate authority.
The fact you're even saying this means you haven't read shit. Takes like this are the reason not a single goddamn soul on Earth takes you seriously and why you're wasting away being some white knight literally no microorganism asked for. There's no use explaining how the MC had a platonic view on him when they got married against their will, and it's the YOUNGER one who, in ADULTHOOD, STILL chose the older one with plenty of ways to escape WITHOUT a single hint of grooming.

preach your truth dude

WDF are you talking abt the ML is a fucking child when you first see him, how would you feel comfortable reading a story that creates ANY type of romantic tension between a grown adult and a childdd ?????
if you continue reading the story after the 2 or 3rd chapter you ARE a fucking CREEP !

People read things because they find it interesting, not because they condone the behavior. You think people reading Mein Kampf back in 1945 to understand Hitler's mind as a historian meant that they support Nazis? How small is your world view, dumbass? Do you think people living in North Korea and reading North Korea propaganda mean they automatically LOVE their country? Are you 12?

ouuu bitch you mad ASFFF, you really a nasty dirty bitch bro. How would you even feel fucking comfortable reading ts. You are absolutely right I didn't read it because im not a perverted freak who can look past romantic implications between a child and adult. GET off line and PLESE SEEK HELP

RIGHT? I gotta stfu in here because this place is like infested with people trying to defend their pedophilic manhwa, it's CRAZY how low the literacy rate is in here?? Like I don't think people understand that you dont have to have sex with a minor to be a pedo. I was arguing with people earlier and it GENUINELY felt like talking to a brick wall, fym the pedophilia is an "important plotline"??? It feels so uneccessary

yes i understand that bwat shouldn’t have made shuraka underage when he met tei, and yes i agree that the storyline has predatory undertones, but calling ppl pedos for reading a manhwa where tei didn’t even see shuraka in that way in the first place just honestly isn’t right. pedophelia is a very big issue and you’re misusing the word like it’s nothing. you have every right to call this story disgusting but i wouldn’t call ppl pedos just for reading this

I would tho because you HAVE to have some weird and fucked up fantasies about children to be into this shit

I mean, I read it because I like the art. Not because I like the story. Plus, it's logical. The MC sacrificed himself, hoping the marriage would be canceled if he went instead of the royal daughter. But it never got canceled. And the MC tried to act as boring as possible to make the prince hate him. But the prince was too focused on apologizing for the alliance and got attached himself. It's a series of miscalculations, things that have and STILL DO (cough Iran and Middle Eastern countries who allow marriage at the age of 9... oh what a coincidence that Shuraka is... what is that? Has ties to middle eastern culture?!) that does NOT support pedo behavior.

Yell calling me mad, while also attacking literally anyone with a rational take? 1 comment versus the 9+ comments you and your ragebait losers spent typing away. As I thought, you're probably 12 with no common fucking sense in your mind. Probably finding this as amusing as I am.

I personally enjoy knowing that the majority of people here are laughing at your flat asses. Because all you guys are showing is that your IQ is lower that 70. Bet your ACT and LSAT scores reflect the amount of neurons in your brain: 5 at most

misspelling? I forgot a word: things that have and still do happen*

queen you're comparing two completely different things trying to make ts right. The behavior you're condoning involves disgusting implications where a child is present. In the 3rd chapter the child Is literally blushing and keeps referring to the other male lead in a romantic way, if you condone THIS behavior you need to talk to someone bc this is borderline pedophilic.

girl…pedophilia is being sexually attracted to minors…shuraka is a full grown adult when him and rei start fucking…. just because he’s shown as a child for a few chapters in the beginning doesn’t make ppl preds for reading this

he thinks about him as a kid WHILE having sex with him but alr

I think you're projecting. That, or you're fucking ignorant to the things that are happening in the majority of the world. Get off of your safe space X community page or your KPop stand threads on Instagram and try looking at women's rights in the middle east, COINCIDENTALLY the same culture illuded to in Shuraka's community. Did you know, over in Iran, the marriage age is 9???

Take a hike. Most rational people reading this aren't pedos. Yes, they're concerned about the storyline and the author is highlighting some gross shit that happens a lot in non-Western societies. Yes, it's uncomfortable. Yes, you should BE MAD it happens. But hating anyone who reads the work? A work that is TRYING to get you angry for a particular reason? How fucking stupid do you have to be??? Honestly funny, perhaps you should take a religion class, or perhaps a history class. Clearly, your school must have been underfunded

oh ig it deleted the last part i wrote about tei but i said tei WOULD be considered a pred since he met shuraka when he was a child and was already promised to marry him/have relations with him. my point still stands tho just because he was shown as a child a few times doesn’t directly make ppl pedos

I am absolutely calling ppl pedos in the right context. The story is disgusting an borderline pedophilic, so if you can read past that plot point and continue reading/ enjoying the story, you are condoning the behavior js because they're " intended" to be together. ts is just a huge red flag and I physically feel sick js thinking abt it bru

IT COOLLLL bc i def got time bro, ts literally made me wanna puke I got cousins and a brother that look at young as the ml and to THINKKKK ppl would be okay with reading shit like this. idc if it hurt ur fucking feelings your a disgusting perv who is a sexually deviant

CH9 - kiss rejected/ doubtful
Ch10 - uncomfortable with the hand kiss, says it's awkward face to face, even Shuraka says tei is avoiding his gaze. Given water mouth to mouth because bro won't shut up (says lips are chapped, even apologizes).
Ch11- after shuraka pins him down, Tei pushes away. Even his thoughts as Shuraka attacks him are how Shuraka is mistaken about his lust. Shuraka sees Tei hesitating, so he hits himself, and Tei gets concerned like an adult. Seems more to me the YOUNGER is manipulating him at this point at the extremist view, because then he gives in to avoid Shuraka hurting himself.

Ch13 - EVEN AFTER A HANDJOB AND GRINDING... shuraka kisses him and Tei still doesn't think this is love.

These are just some examples. I didn't see him think of Shuraka as a kid during sex once.
Bro, are we reading the same series?

Also, if you're reading the series, too, doesn't that make you a pedo by default going by what the op said???

first of all my original comment was a targeted to EVERYONE not js you. and pls chill out with the attacking shit, you literally started being disrespectful first
second, Idc how many ppl dont like my opinion and I dont need a gang of ppl t support wdf I said, ALL y'all bitches weird asf atp and ALLL y'all are pedos
third, you must be a fuckinh loser irl why df are we bringing up irrelevant shit like a ACT score DEE FAWK is up witchu
and lastly, the art is tea BUTTTTTTTT we CAN NOT look past this pedo storyline ...

Okay, let's summarize chapter 3.
Shuraka is blushing because of the conversation about protection as it is a dangerous place. He is not used to being protected, therefore he is embarassed. He is worried about his brothers killing him, so Tei gives Shuraka two hunting monster eggs. Now the kid is blushing again because it means a lot to him someone cares.

And then the next scene is of a wedding. Are you fucking serious? The kid is blushing because now hes found someone who is on his side, protecting him. Of course Shuraka is taking a liking to someone who doesnt bear ill will to him for once. How the FUCK is an adult supposed to handle a kid growing feelings? And how, at this point, is Tei supposed to decipher whether those feelings are romantic or platonic? He says, "you flatter me" and leaves it at that. None of this encourages pedophilia. As the other person says, maybe you should get your definitions right, as pedophilia means an older person preying on a child. Tei is the older person, but has not preyed on a child. If you think this is preying on a child, then your parents and every adult who cares for children's safety are pedophiles.

Of course it's going to be under romantic pretenses because it's a FORCED WEDDING. Do you not understand what a setting is? What connotation is? AND it's a wedding neither of them consented to. How dense do you need to be to mistake anyone reading this as a pedophile.

To further help my posts from earlier, the OP claimed anyone reading (or likes the story) means that you're a pedo. What an incredibly, INCREDIBLY ignorant take. That ALL of you have.

for the last time enjoying any story that creates tension between a child and Adult is WERIDDDDD. js bc you aren't attracted to him when he was child doesnt change the fact that enjoying this type off behavior/ content iS being complicit with pedophilic behaviors

ngl I am NOTTT reading allat. you tryna over explain and tell me what's going on to try an convince me and YOURSELF that reading ts isn't weird. atp seek help bc I lowkirkenuinely believe you see NO wrong in ur actions and are a pedo

My guy truly is not that serious, it is highly questionable how they meet and how the dynamic is presented, but like the mc is not attracted to ml’s kid version and (I hope) neither are the readers. With that black and white mentallity you couldn't date anyone as an adult because your partner also at some point was a child and it's normal to wonder about how they were as kids. In the case of the story, horrible timing to think that for the mc but damn chil… and for the rest, the story is not that incredible to be defending it this hard

Pedo storyline = how the fuck does liking the story make you a pedo? I'm genuinely asking. Its like it's suddenly forbidden to like a story that calls out the atrocities in the world and how two people navigate theough the corruption that started it all. Once again, YES you should be mad at how this started. YES you should be mad it's a child/adult marriage. However. The story is making you DELIBERATELY HATE parts of the culture that shuraka comes from. They are also making you DELIBERATELY HATE the king of Tei's nation for even putting a child in this position. If you can't separate what the author has DELIBERATELY put in there for what is called ANTAGONISM, maybe you shouldn't be trying to sling labels around as if you understand everything.

Also, 2 people are defending it. I never singled myself out. I never whined about the dog dogpilers coming here too. I'm giving you guys the same energy lmao. I bring up "irrelevant shit" to show exactly how fucking dumb you guys are. It's funny as hell, and once again, everyone is cackling at your whiny bitchasses.

Look guys, stay in school. Language arts book readings and those analysis questions are for a reason. Seems you guys probably fucking sucked at that because you can't separate person liking a story/the author from the atrocities in a story who LITERALLY HAS THE REIGNS TO SWAY EMOTIONS. ITS WORKING. AND YOU GUYS ARE FALLING FOR IT.

IDIOTS LIKE YOU ARE NOT THE MAIN AUDIENCE

Seems I forgot to hit reply but that last comment was for you boo <3

THE TRUTH. THESE PEOPLE HAVE GUARANTEED NEVER PASSED A WRITING/BOOK CLASS. IT'S INSANE.

Aight then don't fucking waste your breath replying. I'm sorry weird things for you aren't weird things for the rest of society. Nobody delegated you as the speaker for the human race. Gtfo if you wanna be a stereotypical, shallow bitchass who can't carry a convo when they're being laughed at or proved wrong, nor can they apologize for slinging powerful and wrong labels. You can ruin a goddamn life. Just be glad it's on an illegal website.

EXACTLY bruh like you SEE the people defending this here TT takes a special kind of illiterate degen to see the grossest shit ever and somehow not think that this is bad??

FYI, when I say weird, I'm referring to how you say "a tensions between child and adult is weird" as if there aren't plenty of other stories that do that. A child disliking their mother or a child wary of a stranger.

Best tell Gemini that these books are for pedos;

Books featuring an uneasy alliance between a child and an adult often make for the most compelling "grumpy/sunshine" or "forced proximity" stories. This dynamic usually involves a clash of perspectives—the adult’s cynicism or rigidity versus the child’s logic or idealism—as they work toward a common goal.

Here are several books across different genres that explore this tension:

Fantasy and Adventure
"The House with a Clock in Its Walls" by John Bellairs
After Lewis makes a dangerous magical mistake, he must work with his eccentric Uncle Jonathan and their neighbor, Mrs. Zimmermann. The tension stems from Lewis's guilt and the adults’ realization that they haven't been as protective or transparent as they should have been.

"Angelfall" by Susan Ee
In a post-apocalyptic world, a teenage girl (Penryn) is forced to team up with an angel (Raffe) who has had his wings cut off. Their relationship is defined by extreme mutual distrust and survival necessity as they navigate a world where angels and humans are at war.

"The Girl Who Drank the Moon" by Kelly Barnhill
This story features a complex "found family" where a young girl, Luna, is raised by a witch, Xan. As Luna’s magic begins to emerge uncontrollably, tension rises between her and Xan, who is trying to protect her while keeping secrets about Luna's past.

Contemporary and Literary Fiction
"A Monster Calls" by Patrick Ness
Thirteen-year-old Conor is dealing with his mother’s terminal illness and a cold, strict grandmother he doesn't get along with. He is forced to live with her and "collaborate" on managing his mother's care and the household, leading to significant friction as they both grieve in different, incompatible ways.

"The Great Gilly Hopkins" by Katherine Paterson
Gilly is a brilliant, rebellious foster child who is determined to hate her new foster mother, Maime Trotter. The book follows their "battle of wills" as Gilly eventually has to rely on Trotter’s steady, unconditional support to navigate a family crisis.

"Instructions for a Heatwave" by Maggie O'Farrell
When a father disappears during a 1970s London heatwave, his three adult children return home to help their mother. The "child-adult" tension here is shifted to grown children and their aging parent, as they are forced to function as a unit despite years of estrangement and hidden secrets.

Historical Fiction
"The War That Saved My Life" by Kimberly Brubaker Bradley
Ada, a girl with a clubfoot, and her brother are evacuated from London during WWII to live with Susan, a woman who never wanted children. The tension is high as Susan and Ada both learn to trust each other while preparing for the realities of the war reaching their doorstep.

nahh bitch ur weird and deadass dont understand. enjoying content or behavior that insinuates ANY romantic tension between a child an adult is weirdddddddd. continuing to read content like this not only makes you desensitized to these types of relationships but it literally makes you complicit with this behavior.

and yes I can understand enjoying a story despite its toxic or less popular storyline but a child/adult marriage or relationship literally sends shivers down my spine and you shouldn't be able to look past or enjoy the plot when you literally see the behavior in chapter 2 - 3.

queen PLEASE get a life you have no idea who df ur talking and you're making assumptions bc UR maddd. suck my dick

No? Because I'm not reading it? I saw the weird ass plot twist in chapter one and skimmed thru a couple other chapters to see wtf happened later on in it? I wasnt into this weird pedo shit I can assure you

But since YOURE clearly into this I GOTTA know, basically the same plot, would YOU sleep with a family friend's kid after watching them grow up?

Doesn't make sense tho? No ur not a creep if u continue to read after those chapters. If u continue to read you see NO tension nor any romantic feelings when shuraka was a child. Even KNOW tei is STILL denying shurakas love.

for the love of god WHY does it always Like instead of Dislike

you do realize youre a hypocrite right

Does the mc in any way refer to the child in any romantic way? I'm convinced u haven't read at ALL. It's very normal for kids to blush

Does the mc in any way refer to the child in any romantic way? I'm convinced u haven't read at ALL. It's very normal for kids to blush and see an older persona especially their parents LOVE. The mc is not reciprocating that love back. Even when they child grows up the mc is still denying that same love. It's not pedophillia if the child is not getting groomed in ANY way

This is so weird bc it implies that youre seeing a romantic relationship between them when shuraka is a child when in reality tei acts more like a soldier toward him besides he agreed 2 the marriage proposal thinking it was an adult. I think your mind is infested with pedophilic thoughts which is why you hyperfocus on him as a child when the main story happens as he is 24 years old… “queen” i think you need therapy

what the fuck is wrong with these people

waste my breathe ??? bitch im typing ???
nooo nigga ur js a degenerate who accepts disgusting behavior between a child and an adult. a random person on the street would also find this content weird or at the very least feel uncomfortable reading it BE FUCKING FOREALLL, normal ppl wouldn't want to engage in ANY content like this.
and im not finna apologize to you OR ANYONE who can justify looking at child/adult relationships AND enjoying it

not at all??? Tei sleeps with Shuraka while still viewing him and making connections to him as a child. That is pedophilia.

If the MC was denying the love then he wouldn't have slept with him. That might just be common sense.

your right I didn't read it because ngl after chapter 2 and 3 I literally didn't feel comfortable with the kid blushing an the ml touching his face. Not to mention the romantic tension this child has with a GROWN adult. this type of behavior shouldn't be looked past...
if you can look past that to enjoy the story ngl pookie its wraps it gives your complicit with child and adult relations ..

Genuinely are you perhaps mentally deficient cause what about this story is making you believe that tei is the one making moves or initiating any of this when he’s the one who was pawned off to another kingdom and a child king like …??? This is the setting of the story its historical and child marriage is disgusting obviously youre not making ground breaking discoveries with that one youre not gonna get crowned a buddah for pointing out the obvious but to pin all of it to a character who literally didnt want and doesnt want any of it is crazy and i think you two have some pedophilic issues frl

Bro, please look up the definition. You're just shitting out definitions to make yourself look stupider

Is the romantic tension in the room with us? what the fuck are you seeing dawg…

They're just trolls
Don't actually get angry, I'm laughing at how ignorant America has let Americans have become. Peake comedy

God i hate americans…

FYI they admitted themselves earlier that it's the kid doing the advances. They forgot to add Tei is pushing him away. Good thing they can't delete replies lololol

I haven't even read this yet, but I agree w namya. You're free to feel uncomfortable about whatever but throwing around real actual terms over something fictional is ridiculous and you need to learn where to seperate fiction and reality. You are not helping actual victims while being a keyboard warrior on a pirating site. Your morals are in the wrong place ﹠ its very common knowledge and just common behavior for people to detach when reaching somethint *fictional.

People who can read this and also recognize its wrong exist, whether they enjoy it or not, in the end, this is still a form of entertainment. To project your weird idea that everyone who seemingly reads this is a pedo is just downright a generalized statement. Everyone reads at their own comfort, and I don't think everyone needs to have a name tag that goes "hey guys, I don't condone this btw!"

If you really cared for children, maybe put some more energy into making sure the children around you aren't on platforms where they can be easily taken advantage of, actively monitoring who theyre talking to and what they are consuming media wise.

Not whatever the fuck this is

so this lil kid calling a grown ass man his "beloved" and them being all close in that fucking room dont creep you OUT ???
the the blushing and ml touching the kids face dont throw you off ???
dawg wat dee fawk

Its always the two dumb bitches that agree with each other LMAOOO

Just wanted to remind you, your 1 upvote to 19 down vote ratio is craaaazy. Imagine thinking you're the righteous one here

I still stand by my 5 neuron = 5 ACT LSAT IQ

NOT a troll, im deadass you literally js like children atp

I feel crazy saying this but some people need to be bullied if they gonna act this idiotic in the future

Like bitches, sit the fuck down. Know when to shut up cus this take mega L

They seething since I haven't seen a reply

No it doesnt creep me out because the adult is clearly not seeing the child in any sexual way, which ironically you are tho… it reminds me of when i was crushing on my teacher in first grade and he was ignoring my ass .. genuinely get help

never cared wdf you think queen I ZONTTT play with y'all start liking kid/adult relationships

Gotta agree with the other person. Nobody else is seeing the child, including tei, me, or the other people here in the comment section, in a sexual way except you and your gremlin troll possy. Uhh... do yoy got unresolved daddy issues? Maybe uncle issues? If so, projecting isn't the way to go. Therapy is

You also apparently “zont play” about sexualising a child… so there’s that

AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I didn't post the fucking comment to be with the likes of you nasty bird brain ass bitches, I said it because I WANTED TEWWW
you keep bringing the ACT up bru HANG THE SHIT UPPPP

Oh my god bruh have you read any book ever
Tei and Shuraka's relationship inherently has a misconstrued power dynamic through not only Tei knowing Shuraka when he was a child but also literally being someone who took care of him for three years. Tei KNOWS that Shuraka has misplaced romantic feelings towards him BECAUSE of their past relationship (from when he was a child) and still allows Shuraka to make advances on him and even HAS sex with him regardless of that. In that moment, nobody was forcing Tei to have sex with him. He could have freely pushed that man off, told him no, and left the room. This man is a trained knight, he is not weak, yet he hardly resisted against Shuraka. INSTEAD, we are given a disturbing sex scene where Tei is shown to be enjoying himself WHILE comparing Shuraka to how he was as a kid AS the artist of this series clearly represents these scenes with compositions that are meant to draw out good emotions rather than yk the disgust we SHOULD be feeling here.

Whether Tei denies these as romantic feelings or not, you'd have to be illiterate to not be able to tell that he was taking advantage of Shuraka in that moment and had the complete free will to stop that from happening, yet he chose not to. This is NOT an impossible conclusion to come to, and if you've passed all of those literary classes that WE apparently haven't, then you would be making the same connection! It is horrifically predatory to engage in something like this when their dynamic is hardly different from caregiver x child so idk what we're missing here

So there is actually a term for this: chronophilia (generic for age ranges) or more specifically puppy love, where the child has romantic feelings for an adult.


Pedophilia is the disorder of liking prepubescent children.

So we figure out you're using the terms wrong like a little illiterate bitch who thinks they know it all AND we find that Tei is responding how he should

Go get therapy

Oh my god bruh have you read any book ever
Tei and Shuraka's relationship inherently has a misconstrued power dynamic through not only Tei knowing Shuraka when he was a child but also literally being someone who took care of him for three years. Tei KNOWS that Shuraka has misplaced romantic feelings towards him BECAUSE of their past relationship (from when he was a child) and still allows Shuraka to make advances on him and even HAS sex with him regardless of that. In that moment, nobody was forcing Tei to have sex with him. He could have freely pushed that man off, told him no, and left the room. This man is a trained knight, he is not weak, yet he hardly resisted against Shuraka. INSTEAD, we are given a disturbing sex scene where Tei is shown to be enjoying himself WHILE comparing Shuraka to how he was as a kid AS the artist of this series clearly represents these scenes with compositions that are meant to draw out good emotions rather than yk the disgust we SHOULD be feeling here.
Whether Tei denies these as romantic feelings or not, you'd have to be illiterate to not be able to tell that he was taking advantage of Shuraka in that moment and had the complete free will to stop that from happening, yet he chose not to. This is NOT an impossible conclusion to come to, and if you've passed all of those literary classes that WE apparently haven't, then you would be making the same connection! It is horrifically predatory to engage in something like this when their dynamic is hardly different from caregiver x child so idk what we're missing here

and unfortunately you enjoy and play ALL day with pedophilic stories/ content

sent twice for some reason mb

queen your a RANDOMM on the internet, you cant bully me please clock in ho

are you 10

bro ur nasty asf an so far gone bru
we know they end up together and the thought of them implying shit like dat WHEN he was a kid is different from the scenario you described with ur teacher

Ah yes the power dynamic between a god king and a soldier who’s forced into an arranged marriage.. this is exactly what the textbooks are talking about … BRO DO YOU EVEN HEAR YOURSELF

wait are you ACTUALLY 10 im confused

like I said before I dont care if y'all dont understand, at the end of the day y'all still gonna tune in even tho the story is based off of a disgusting relationship

So you forgotten fact Tei did push him off. And you forgot the fact that, while Tei is a trained knight, SHURAKA SURVIVED A LITERAL BLOOD BATH. He fought his way up there, too. And you also forgot: THEY PARTED WAYS FOR A SHIT TON OF YEARS. And I think you might be misreading in chapter 9, when Tei mentions "adolescent boy," he's referring to how inexperienced the kiss feels because it's like how someone who has never kissed before would kiss so haphazardly. Maybe you're misreading that??? He never mentioned how he liked shuraka young like a epstein pedo would.

Shuraka is the one manipulating Tei at that moment because he literally hit himself to stop himself from lusting, but still couldn't stop lusting. Prior to these chapters, he was avoiding every romantic encounter he could. But the second he takes pity for one second on an ADULT.

SHURAKA IS AN ADULT
SHURAKA IS AN ADULT WITH HIS OWN MIND
SHURAKA IS AN ADULT WHO STARTED THIS WITH HIS OWN PERVERTED MIND

Tei is COERCED as to have Shuraka not hit his head anymore. if anything you should be arguing for TEI and not pity SHURAKA for COERCING SEX.

ARE YOU VICTIM BLAMING??? HOLY SHIT YOURE WORSE THAN I THOUGHT.

Good for fucking you. But don't be slinging around a pedo label when you're 10,000% fucking wrong and misinformed

If any of you care about reading past like the insane rose tint you guys have approached this story with then there is someone who actually made an amazing point in defense of what we have to say in like December but idk maybe jerimeat is the only one here who actually cares about innocent children here so

I dont think you even know your abcs lil bro

ur such a flonky ass bitch
stanky hoes like you will never understand that this behavior shouldn't be enjoyed. you like the relationship/story despite the fact that its WERIDDDD
im sorry bookie ur gonna forever be a pedo and a fucking loser in my eyes mwahhhh!

Bring it up mf, I got time. The fact you guys are cowering after all this without bringing any actual evidence besides the chapters you mischaracterize AND leave out information, means that none of you were on the side of children to begin with. The fact that you see this and think there must be sexualization against a child means somethings wrong with you. It's why OP is getting ratioed. Cus yell fucking stupid and wrong. Does it hurt to hear? Wanna cry to mommy? Sorry, too bad. That's a tension between a child and a parent, and because you were a child once, and your mom thinks of you as a chold, that means that's pedophilia (by your definition) LMAO

Youre literally weird as fuck for trivialising things like pedophilia, throwing the term around and making things harder for survivors just to get a “gotcha” moment on the internet.. not to mention also sexualising a child in the process like it’s genuinely not occurring to you that youre being the perpetrator of harm in this situation bc you think youre righteous.. yall got access to therapy speech and immediately decide to weaponize it. I hope you rot bruh

not misinformed y'all are perverted and TOO far gone to be helped ...

You literally were just talking about the blush of a child

Says the person with at least 9+ different public erotica in your profile where the MCs were shown as children at some point in the webtoon. Are you a pedo for that too or are we changing definitions?
I hope therapy goes well for you
Better help is download able <3

You were literally just talking about the blush of a child dawg

I liked, 5 different erotica, and probably more hidden

I know my 123s better than you know how you spell "glooms"

OOHHH SHIT! AND IT WASNT EVER MENTIONED BEFORE THIS!!!

its not a gotcha moment y'all bitches are genuinely weird
how DA FUCK am I sexualizing the child when im literally js stating wdf is happening in the story ???????????
y'all dusty ass hoes irritating dee fuck otta me tryna make it seem like im da bad person because YALL like this nasty ass shit
ts wrong and foul and im not finna let y'all slide cs yall dont wanna take accountability

bc it disgusting to even put blush on a child when he's alone in a room with an adult and he touching his fucking face ???

who said we were enjoying it
Literally my first reply was how the author is creating tension and you should hate the child marriage. But continuing to read does not make you a pedo. Why are we going in circles when you can just click off like you should have in the first place instead of humiliating yourself with 2☆ trolls?

Then you're just defending bad writing, I dont know what to tell you. If Shuraka was a bad kisser you could say it simple as that, or come up with ANOTHER metaphor to get a similar point across. The INTENTIONAL wording of calling him an "adolescent boy" doesn't strike you as odd in the slightest? You've read so many books and made so many great interpretations, right? So you DO know that this use of wording IS intentional, right?

Shuraka is an adult and not free of any guilt, yes, I agree. But Tei is also a bit guilty here. I never stated that I was placing the blame on either of these characters, I think you're misinterpreting my point. I am calling this work, in nature, pedophilic. It spreads harmful ideology to it's readers, whether intentional or not, and brings light to atrocities that should be viewed for what they are. The position these two characters are put in is disgusting, yet the author fails to communicate that in an appropriate manner. Is this missing you?

so the entire point of my username is that it's a reference to a character and not the actual word but thanks for trying to correct something that is obviously intentional

Pathological liar alert!!
Ch3, child shuraka invited Tei to sit, and the next panel is them just going "..." not once did Tei touch the kid! I don't think their hands even touched because when Tei accepted the flowers, he put his hands underneath! Shuraka is the one who leaned in for a kiss... get this.m. ON THE VEIL AND NOT ON TEI'S FACE. THERE WAS NO PHYSICAL CONTACT. WHAT STORY ARE YOU READING???

yes and those stories consists both of the main characters being around or if not the same age, and I definitely read those when I was a minor ???
Now you thought this was fucking gotcha moment but its literally not the ml in THIS story is grown adult with a child dat looks no more then 10 ?????

Do you see the hypocrisy
The entire point of the child marriage was to show how corrupt both nations are (so you hate both royalties). It is so obviously intentional

that Tei only assumed a protection/guardianship and that it was INFACT SHURAKA getting mad feelings on his own which BY DEFINITION is NOT Pedophilia which REQUIRES the adult to make advances on a prepubescent child. This is what's called PUPPY LOVE.

Alright now get outta here

ouuu you wish you could see huh ???

Sorry, by trying to bring awareness to a uncomfortably pedophilic piece of media I'M making it harder for survivors? Literally everything you have to say is caked with insults and I don't understand why. You are reading a textbook case of grooming and getting mad at US for pointing it out - Are you sure you care about the victims at all lol

Bro what . So suddenly theres a framework where its okay to sexualise children this is what i mean yall just wanna win internet fights and dont even care if youre harming actual survivors of pedophilia and sexual assault

Not really, your list is bland and cliché. you seem like a genuinely stupid, boring person. I think the only thing we could agree on is that oreos are good. I would pass by you if you ever called out to me on the street. If I were holding doors open for people, I would close it if I ever saw your face. If you walked into the room, I would leave

You are genuinely insufferable and I think maybe the people here take pride in that. Atleast you have something to be proud of.

A blushing child is not weird even if theyre touching an adults face because children inherently cannot be sexual… youre thinking with a predatory mindset which is why you come up with this insane shit

There's a difference between brining awareness and then calling everyone pedos for liking the story (which Does not mean liking all aspects of the story)

So two consenting adults don't matter to you. That's all we needed to know.

you must not have been reading what ive BEEN typing
I been explained that looking past that child/adult storyline inherently makes you be complicit with pedophilic behavior. we already know that they are " intended " to be together SO seeing them interact when the one is a adult and the other one looks like a 9 yr is disgusting
even if nothing is happening its still wrong the author could have made their ages different or shit made them look different

I genuinely need you to talk to people who have been groomed so that you understand what the fuck youre saying and what kind of process grooming is and which methods of manipulation and abuse it involves and what the main objective of the perpetrators are. Youre disgusting

bro get smaller fingerssss

so ur telling me you dont feel a OUNCE of discomfort with a child marrying an adult or their romantic behavior between each other ?
serious question I deadass wanna know how far gone y'all are

And that's BAD writing? Why are you so desperately trying to defend a work that can find no other way to make the viewer uncomfortable than one of the EASIEST tactics of putting children in bad situations, ESPECIALLY when that situation will only later be used to push the main characters gross romance in a way that shows no proper respect for how bad these situations are. There are hundreds of ways to depict corrupt kingdoms, yet this writer chose to take advantage of children to push her gross narrative littered with predatory actions. That is not good writing, and it only serves to discomfort the reader for the couple of chapters where we are shown this marriage.

Again, I am telling you that I am calling this MANHWA pedophilic. NOT Tae. THE MANHWA. THE MANHWA spreads gross ideology that waters down the atrocities of what pedophilia is and constantly connects a grown man in sexual and romantic scenarios to a young boy. It is not treated as something meant to disturb the viewer, but rather works to directly try and comfort the viewer. This is gross, it is pedophilic, and it is disgusting that you continue to try and defend this without considering our points in the slightest.

im stupid and a boring person but you got time to be soooo mad that you respond to a comment on a mangago comment section..
you are the most miserable person ive spoken to on the internet
you think im insufferable but WANT to go back and forth
then you OVERLY fucking corny talking abt closing doors and leaving fucking rooms PLEASE go get a fucking job and do something productive

ALRIGHT now you tryna take away all context and make it seem like a nigga is INSANEEEE
please stop responding and seek help there is literally nothing I can type that would get to understand that this type of content IS NOT NORMAL TO FUCKING READDDDDD

So just a recap;
Nobody condones child marriage, we knows it'd a bad situation for everyone except the power hungry fools

Tei is assuming guardianship to protect Shuraka from killers, Shuraka is confused and relieved he can rely on someone who looks so different from his people

KidShuraka compliments tei a lot and Tei cuts it short. As any adult should

Op and anyone defending OP are weird for thinking anything sexual happened between shuraka and Tei at this time. Children cannot be sexual because of a multitude of reasons: hormones,non exposure,environment, etc. They can however like someone and sa "I wanna marry you" like a crush love or puppy love as in"i want to spend my life with you forever and not chage anything" but not sexual love like "I wanna defile you". That made me cringe writing.

Shuraka pushed Tei away back to his territory if memory serves me right, after the poisoning. So he could have gotten away if this was true pedophilia. But BRO LIERALLY CROSSED THE BORDERF FOR HIS BAE.

2 consenting adults that OP give 0 shots about. Apparently if you were a child once when meeting someone else, yous a ho

OP is a pathological liar along with the other two defenders who misread passages and can't get their own facts right. Funny because they think they're the law

Anyone saying Tei should have pushed Shuraka off are victim blaming. Tei fucking did, but Shuraka was hurting himself and coerced Tei at that point in order not to hurt himself. Also forgot Shuraka survived an ascension war

Yell are the funniest trolls I ever seen
Keep at it. Your parents might say you're worthless but I think you have a rough talent in trolling. Try harder

what the actual fuck are you talking abt

Yes, I do have time
I'm literally laugh crying at all your trolling attempts
It's so funny

It's like talking to a brick wall....

I dont see how IM the troll when YALL chose to reposed to MEEE. y'all are js mad y'all cannot change my opinion
and y'all keep tryna rewrite my words or misunderstand context to fit y'all narrative but I dont care I KNOW y'all deadass wrong ...
THANGYAA

You said: yes and those stories consists both of the main characters being around or if not the same age,"

So you're age-ist when it comes to two consenting adults wanting to do sexual stuff. But when the adult Tei does not want anything sexual to do with child Shuraka, but it's Shuraka pursuing him... AS AN ADULT... suddenly it's pedophilia

Bro maybe you're confusing yourself, you don't even know where you stand

Also, I'm genuinely sorry you read 18+ as a minor. It fucks people up whether they want to admit it or not. You probably have an addiction and your hormones may be fucked if it was at a young age you were exposed. You parents really are neglectful (FYI, there are studies on it. And if you did Care about minors, you wouldn't be flaunting you read that shit as a minor)

Istg these people are not listening dude, I have repeated the same thing what feels like five times TT

Im saying bru, mind u they were so mad that they chose to dislike AND respond ???
but im the troll for defending MY OPINION ?

RIGHT?? YOU came to US lil bro

You posted on a public form and we came with logic. You came with bullshit to egg us on
Keep showing how you're a troll, it's quite telling

Funny, same here
Reminder, ratioed

You talk like you've never been on the internet before dude

You literally said that this is a textbook case of grooming (insane) and its wrong no matter how many times you repeat it

Look at the whiner finally backing out!! And admitting ots your opinion!! For a moment there, I thought you were stating statistics!!! Whew, glad I was seeing things. Someone like you couldn't do research anyways, let alone back up your opinion with actual reasoning.

Get help with your pathological lying and your daddy issues. Both of those combined are why youreseeing guardianship and care for a child as pedophilia

Imagine having a conversation and then whining about how people think your opinion is wrong.

Newsflash mf, that's allowed too
You know what's allowed too? To agree to disagree
Too bad I won't do that unless you do. Because then you'll just admit your low IQ and can't back up your stance

queen respectfully PLEASE shut the fuck up
im NOT confused ..
the story starts off so weird that I literally can't look past dat, so if YOU can, im gonna look at you differently
you dont have to tell me wdf you think is wrong with MEE when you dont know me from a can of paint
and im not addicted to this shit for the last time YOU DONT KNOW ME

I shouldnt have to explain this to you

You talk like you've never met an adult with common sense. Do you live in California by chance? That's where most of those people are. Respect to those who have common sense living there. That respect isn't for you, fyi

wait so are you like 50 and arguing with some people over yaoi on the internet literally 5 hrs before u have to wake up for work or what
dont YOU have kids to take care of??

Well, perhaps you should, becuase 20+ and counting don't understand. Seemslike if a majority doesn't understand, maybe you should explain yourself so people can understand.

Then, tbh, I don't want to know what the mind of a gooner low IQ whiny F-tier troll is thinking about. Might make me lose braincells.

I'm Canadian, how tf did you get cali??? lololol
I think every grown person I know acts a bit more rationally than I've seen you

I posted on a public form because I felt like it, while you responded because ur mad an got ur panties are in bunch ...

are you just trying to maximize your internet slang so you seem hip with the kids now

Honestly, being 50 and having a pension while arguing with aimless people like you is pretty funny, especially when I can get all my good insults out. I'll have more money than you, I'd have a better, robust stance, and people would relate more than some idiot who just flings around powerful labels with terrible connotations.

FYI, I'm 24. I just argue with 10,000% wrong idiots like you cus it's funny. I ain't got nothing to do anyways. Seems like you're the same too since you're still replying, so idk what point you're making

No, I also responded because i felt like insulting you. Because you had a trash take.
Imagine that!!

never said I was backing out, I CLEARY got time for dirty bitches like u
please calm df down ik got u mad but girl relax
I commented what I did bc I felt like I had no intention on arguing with ill minded sexual deviants
and please stop with the diagnosis y'all literally dont know me, I got y'all so tight y'all deadass pulling hsit out y'all assss OMGGGG

"I like never said that Tei had any romantic/weird feelings towards Shuraka as a child. I fully understand that their relationship was purely just caregiver and child. Thanks gangilicious! I DO know how to read!"

Oh okay
So you're the troll here then? Genuine question.

"I like never said that Tei had any romantic/weird feelings towards Shuraka as a child. I fully understand that their relationship was purely just caregiver and child. Thanks gangilicious! I DO know how to read!" FYI, verified lie. He does not think of shuraka as a child when having sex. Ew.

Yeah and I meant it?? Were you not reading the 3 times I said that I said my point wasn't that Tei was into little boys, but that the work was inherently pedophilic?

"I like never said that Tei had any romantic/weird feelings towards Shuraka as a child. I fully understand that their relationship was purely just caregiver and child. Thanks gangilicious! I DO know how to read!"

Hm. Again. Still haven't found where Tei did this
And once again

VICTIM BLAMIMG

He doe, comparing Shuraka to a prepubescent boy during sex is pretty gross yk? Like what I said before, wording is intentional in writing, yk? Even here I didnt say he had these feelings about him as a KID, yk? This scene comes after theyve fully grown up, yk?

we could put you in an echo chamber and you'd be entertained for days

ouuu you ate that one lil thing up stink !
but unfortunately I still think the story is disgusting and if you support it your a PEDO

also, again, I never said these were feelings he had as a kid?? like he literally comes to terms with the fact that Tei is grown up now and "Wants to fall asleep in his arms like many nights before" RIGHT after having sex with him

I'm going to sleep bruh I'll revisit whatever you had to say later
rate my reads 1-10 thanks guys im kind of the literary genius

real wrap it time to go night night, I tried of eating them hoes up !

So... that doesn't make THE WORK pedophilia. Pedophilia is, and I quote from the US Govt: "Pedophilia is defined as a sexual interest in prepubescent children. It is empirically linked with sexual offending against children."

Except. Just because there was a grown ass man in a marriage with a child, borne out of VERY VERY terrible circumstances (which AGAIN happens in bad cultures). BUT the work is not GLORIFYING pedophilia. It is saying just how BAD things have gotten (originally it was supposed to be a girl Shuraka's age, but she was too frail and weak If you read the first chapter).

Instead of following what WOULD have made it pedophilia (aka, preying on shuraa sexually), it actually makes it a story of SURVIVAL as the MC vows to protect the ML platonially. There is no pedophilia, nor any instance of it, nor any implication of it.

And once again, you
"I like never said that Tei had any romantic/weird feelings towards Shuraka as a child." To claim there's pedophilia means you must say an adult lusted after a child. And you also kept saying Tei thought of Shuraka as a child while agreeing to (past ch13) and being coerced (ch9-13) by shuraka. You can't have both of your statement be true.

" I fully understand that their relationship was purely just caregiver and child. Thanks gangilicious! I DO know how to read!" SO you admit there is no pedophilia. Because the INTENT for Tei's nation was to have Shuraka's cancel after seeing Tei. But they didn't cancel because they're confident they could eliminate shuraka with the poisoning stunt. This makes sense and points to SURVIVAL not PEDOPHILIA. lmao.

Keep in mind, it is a translation.

The full context:
"There was an awkward way he grew so aroused from mere kissing, like an adolescent boy."

Basically, he's saying younger people tend not to have the experience and get horny off of the simplest actions. He wasn't comparing Shuraka to a adolescent, he was saying his awkward and "clumsy" actions are that of someone young and inexperienced, despite being so old now. And this makes sense, because Shuraka is younger without experiences and Tei is older with plenty. He has been that before and knows the clumsiness feel.

Comparing this to pedophilia or thinking there's any hint to it... areyou fucking insane? Read the context brother. He wasn't thinking of shuraka's kid self. He wasn't even thinking of sexalizing a young person. He was saying his movements are unexperienced. I think most people could understand the context if you weren't already prejudiced to the story.

when I claim that a work is pedophilic I mean that it unnecessarily connects children to sexual themes in a way to appeal to the reader. You cannot deny that the story DOES do this because of the way that Shuraka is compared to an adolescent boy while making out with someone, how he is immediately compared to him as a child AFTER having sex, and fuck like Tei even SAYS that he wishes they could go back to when he was a kid. This sexualizes him as a child. There should NEVER be any space for mentions of or direct panels of children in scenes that are explicit like that, be it right after or not lol

Its crazy to me that you, at the grown age of 24, cannot understand that MAYBE, in this situation, the READER (and author of the story) is the pedophile. You sure you're listening to what i have to say or is this like fr your echo chamber

fr going to sleep now

Oh my fucking god you literally had no comprehension of the story. reading your replies and that other guy complaining about this story being pedo story are a literal gave away that only the two of you have malicious minds. get off the site and touch some grass

You do realize that you're looking incredibly dumb here, you lack reading comprehension AND you're stubborn pick a struggle omg?? Everyone here that's defending the story isn't even defending child marriage, do you really read their replies? because they all clearly say that this story is an insult to child marriage. You're proving that irl you'd be unable to recognize genuine grooming and just being a caregiver to a kid, just a few chapters of reading would have you realize that the romance isn't here yet... it's in some way trauma bonding and a two people, regardless of their ages finding comfort in eachother, NOT romantically but just as a safe space because of how ass the circumstances they were born or forced into are.

It's literally you crying "pedophilia!" on a story that clearly states how it opposes that very topic. You refusing to actually give effort to intake the information that is being laid on a platter for you makes you real stupid here. We're lit agreeing with you about how pedophilia is bad and how it shouldn't be glorified in stories, we just added that calling one of the gems out here that properly shows how destructive child marriages are (WHICH IS AGAINST PEDOPHILIA OBVIOUSLY), yet you are so eager to call the first few works that deal with sensitive topics like this the very thing it's talking against. Did you skip or struggle studying basic comprehension? Or do you just refuse to learn common knowledge??

DEADASS vro, these two guys are literally the only ones that see this as a pedo story despite all the opposing elements in the story that has been explained to them. They clearly lack common sense and have the mind of a toddler with how they throw labels around mindlessly, fucking weirdos honestly

Fr dude it's like they're eager for it to really be pedophilic with how much they focus on him being a child, these two wannabe smartasses who throw labels really need to get a life

Literally all of you are a hivemind that come and regurgitate the same thing to me and idk HOW many times I have to say that i dont give a fuck about the story being against child marriage, because THIS was never ABOUT the child marriage. It’s insane to come on here and call me stubborn and tell me that I lack reading comprehension skills and then immediately show off YOUR lack of reading comprehension by completely ignoring everything I’ve said in preference for calling me an idiot. You are literally showing how fucking thick your skull is by coming into this argument to tell me the exact same thing the other person was saying, which again, is just in support of bad writing. Not every piece of media that handle topics like this is your messiah, and this one, that goes to spit on all that you claim this story stands for, ESPECIALLY doesn’t.

I have read both their and your points, yet still I can’t understand how you refuse to acknowledge how a story in support of something can STILL act against that thing. You are viewing this matter extremely black and white, yet you claim I’M not literate? Showing one example in their story of being against child marriage does not excuse them going on to outrightly sexualize a child (or the idea of) no matter how much any of you here insist it does. I didn’t for a second think that you guys didn’t agree that pedophilia was bad, you, again entirely disregard my point.

I don’t know how astronomically sheltered you have to be to claim that this is one of the “first few works” to deal with sensitive topics appropriately, which, is not only plain wrong but also another show of hypocrisy?? No story AGAINST pedophilia draws the man who is known to be his romantic love interest (whether in love with the kid or not at that point) cuddling and doing all the weird shit that Tei does. A story AGAINST pedophilia doesn’t frame these gross scenes of a man thinking about the person he just had sex with as a child AS disgusting. Instead, the artist surrounds them with warm colours and flowers, if you READ manhwa then you KNOW that compositions like these are used to set romantic settings.

lol im not reading ol that, your preference does not constitute as fact sybau.

Damn u right

Are you mad because i didnt reply to u

lol you just did and replied my first comment, are you high?

Are you? I was replying to the meow person, not you lil bro

same narrative, litte brain and so out of touch. you'll never gonna win here

I’ll never gonna win here?

You’ll never gonna win

They frl want this to be a grooming and pedophilic rape story like… one of them even talking about shuraka blushing and touching teis face or whatever like girl are you perhaps a pedo yourself cause what thafuhhhk are you seeing

I’ll never gonna win here?

I will never gonna win?

This site constantly tricking me that’s so embarrassing this is an automatic loss

So you're complaining about how people don't see your points, but we are. You just don't like that you're wrong. Do you think the DOJ is pedophilic (there is no definition for this specific word, although we can derive it from pedo: aka the nature of being a pedo or like a pedo, and PEDO means to LIKE underage children, so the story MUST be endorsing pedophilia to be pedophilic) when it shows the corruption and the atrocities done to young minors? In the same way they're not pedophilic for exposing corruption, this work is not pedophilic because it doesn't show any lust to Kid Shuraka.

I already explained Tei is comparing the AWKWARD MOVEMENTS, key word: MOVEMENTS, not Shuraka himself, as a kid. He's literally saying he's inexperienced. The context of I think ch11 = bro is clumsy and new to this. I'm sorry generalizations are off the table for rational thinkers. There's a point where simplifying things too much makes things wrong.

Also read what you wrote:
"Tei even SAYS that he wishes they could go back to when he was a kid. This sexualizes him as a child."

But you also wrote:
"I like never said that Tei had any romantic/weird feelings towards Shuraka as a child. I fully understand that their relationship was purely just caregiver and child. Thanks gangilicious! I DO know how to read!" Idiot much???

You apparently can't read context clues. Tei wishes he could return to a time where Shuraka is a kid so he didn't have to do all this sexual stuff with him and just protect him. That was ALL the relationship was BEFORE Shuraka even came back as an adult. There was no sexual innuendo, no touching, even back then. He was simply a knight forced into a relationship he was initially so confident that would have been annulled, but Shuraka's country is crazy af. So Twi wants go back to that simpler time. He says THROUHOUGH THE STORY MULTIPLE TIMES he doesn't even think this is love, just abandonment/lonely issues. Dint you ever wish you never had to pay taxes as an adult? Or you wished you never had to pay rent? Or you could see your grandpa again? Those are the type of feelings.

Therefore the fact that you generalized and said:
"There should NEVER be any space for mentions of or direct panels of children in scenes that are explicit like that, be it right after or not lol" means you read absolutely nothing and you are going off of literally the shit in your ass to make your arguments.

Maybe you should fucking read instead of skimming. It might help you get a better job than flipping burgers at McDonalds.

Good luck, because if you're older than 20, you're at a fucking loss

You're right, I don't think I understand the mental gymnastics:
"THIS was never ABOUT the child marriage." - Gloomz
Okay, we got that part out of the way. It's not about the marriage, but you COMMENTED on a thread where the whole issue was that. You know you're not the OP, but the OP said "there is no reason for them to meet as a literal child," to which they scream pedophilia, which their little brain needs to do some more research.

In your case, this is a case of changing the subject slightly to fight your narrative. You want to say the story is pedophilic for 2 instances in the story, both of which happen during a kiss and/or after sex, where Tei compares Shuraka to an underage boy.

Here's what you say:
"because of the way that Shuraka is compared to an adolescent boy while making out with someone"
"how he is immediately compared to him as a child AFTER having sex"
"Tei even SAYS that he wishes they could go back to when he was a kid"


See, these all seem pretty bad unless you actually read the fucking text on the picture.
1. Chapter 11:
"His tongue squirmed about AWKWARDLY. He was clumsy at even holding his breath each time our lips touched, and there was an AWKWARD air about the way he grew aroused from MERE kissing, like an adolescent boy."

We find what's called a similie, a comparison using like or as. And what's the comparison to? Not to Shuraka, but his CLUMSY, AWKWARD ACTIONS that remind him of a BOY WHO SQUIRMS AT THE SLIGHTEST TOUCH (aka not someone who has CONFIDENTLY experienced sexual experiences). Tei was not comparing Shuraka to a child. It's like saying, "Bob is acting like a child" and someone as ignorant as you comes along and thinks I'm thinking of that person as a literal child. No, the connotation is that Bob is acting immature and selfish, LIKE A CHILD.

Additionally, Tei even thinks "He's all grown up now" in chapter 12. Chapter 15, Tei says, "I'd taken it for granted that he'd have experience with men before," further reinforces the juxtaposition between an awkward, inexperienced BOY and confident, experienced MAN. Not to mention, Tei would know the fucking difference based on his war experiences detailed in Ch16. Ch17, "I did not realize he would be so unversed in the ways of lovemaking."

2. Your second and third point, I don't even know where to find. Chapter 12 says, "I wish to fall asleep in the shelter of your embrace like years before," but that's Shuraka saying that?? And pay attention to the wording: SHELTER aka PROTECTION of your embrace, the very thing Shuraka HIMSELF may have fallen in love with and chased all these years? Tei didn't even groom him as a kid. Shuraka found that naturally and chased Tei back.

The only other mention Tei does of the child Shuraka or any child is "newborn pup" in chapter 15, when he's lapping his dick like it's a lollipop so timidly, like scared to hurt or how he didn't know how to suck a dude off.

The next instance is ch18, a non-sex chapter where he feels lonely and reminisces how he was always at shuraka's side to protect him.

Idk what fucking webtoon you're reading, but clearly you're not reading the same one I am.

"doing all the weird shit that Tei does" you mean rejecting Shuraka at every kiss and advance he can? Didn't you just victim blame Tei for not pushing Shuraka off, stating he's "a trained knight" but conveniently forgetting Shuraka survived an ascension war?

God you're pathetic. Keep whining about how you're somehow morally right for not knowing how to fucking read.

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/our_home_full_ver/ found a bl where they met as kids but one is 10 years older
And gloomz's fear happen as the MC recalls the ML as a kid, even has the kid overlap and has a healthy reaction to it, saying he feels guilty and turned off. Rightfully so cus that was weird

Now gloomz, fucking compare ch11 here to ch22 here. Notice how Tei didn't compare Shuraka to a literal child like this one did.

I'm not mad that I'm wrong, people genuinely aren't seeing what I'm writing before deciding to say something themselves. Do you know how to read, Namya? If so, you clearly don't care to read the comments of the people on your side, way too focused on hurling insults at me! I have stated more times than I can count that I am not claiming that any of the characters in this story are pedophiles. I have had to repeat more times than I can count that I never CARED about the child marriage, and that the story carrying the theme of openly showing it's dislike of that didn't excuse everything else the writer has written for the plotline. Yet still, people continue to try and sprinkle in their two cents on this argument that is ALWAYS the same thing. "Actually, you're illiterate and this story can't be pedophillic because it clearly shows that it's against child marriage. Tei never had sexual or romantic feelings for Shuraka as a kid, you're a weirdo for thinking he did." As if that's the argument ending point that apparently fucking everyone here thinks it is. I can't understand how you seriously COULD be reading people repeating themselves again and again and somehow place the blame on me simply being mad when I have never actually shown outwardly shown anger. Throughout this entire discussion, I have tried to keep a level head. But every word that I type out seems to get you seething, so perhaps you're just biased?

You can't excuse everything this work does by saying that it "exposes the corruption and atrocities done to young minors", and AGAIN, you can't say that I EVER said that it was pedophillic because of this, since I have been REPEATING to SO many people that I DONT THINK IT'S THIS. I'm going to repeat again for you that the only instances of Shuraka being sexualized as a child come post-timeskip. I never touched on how disgusting child marriage is, and I never cared about how this story handled it. While it's certainly not the most perfect way to represent a situation like this, the story is in clear opposition to child marriage; but this does not excuse everything else written. This is not black and white, things that claim to be supporting something can still work against it. If I make a donation to a women's rights foundation, and then turn around and advocate for abortion to be illegal, does the first action excuse my second one? This should be a pretty simple answer, even someone like you can find the right one.

Your desperation to defend the use of the word "adolescent" is, to be frank, stupid. Clearly, you are not a writer, you hold little respect for literature or the consumption and discussion of, and you continue to prove to me the lengths you will go to defend the sexualization of minors. Your defense of the author and translator's choice of words (Especially in a medium where the use of specific words have never been more intentional) is disgusting. You fail to recognize that the use of such descriptors to depict an awkward or inexperienced action is outwardly predatory and intended to draw in readers that entertain themselves on content like this. The great thing about language is that there are multiple words to describe a similar thing, multiple words that DON'T compare a character to a young boy. A sane and competent writer would not intentionally choose the word "adolescent" in a sex scene KNOWING it's connotations, this was an intentional choice made by either the translator, or the author originally. Something that is PREDATORY, there is NO room for mentions of children in sexual situations. If you cared about media literacy like you SWEAR you do, you would stop trying to correct my point with the excuse of describing an awkward action. Good writers don't have to excuse their writing like this, the thing about words written on a screen is that they can speak for themself. This is either a defense of poor writing, or a defense of predatory actions, pick your poison.

Many defend the artist's use of composition, one which is clearly meant to depict something in a positive light. I don't even know what to say to this, the complete disregard for the fundamentals of art and the different popular ways in which artists in manhwa go about influencing their readers' emotions feels outright disrespectful. If you can read this and not agree that there was zero attempt (from the art teams side) to draw out negative emotions in what, by your defense, should be a rape scene, then you simply just show little to no consideration for the arts and the techniques which artists use. There are plenty of stories with artists competent enough to depict uncomfortable scenes as, well, uncomfortable, and I believe the artist of this series could do the same; they simply just chose to depict this scene in a positive light.

Bringing up context clues to defend one of my examples is really funny. No, seriously. Especially when you refuse to acknowledge the context of my words (which you constantly attempt to use against me.), and understand the several times in which I have said that the sexualization of Shuraka as a child after growing into an adult does not mean that I think TEI was into Shuraka like that when he was a boy. That being said, yes Namya. Let's consider the context of this scene. First of all, it does not matter to me whether or not Tei thinks any of this is love. You need to stop bringing up this point, because love and sexual desire are different things–and, again, my focus is on the choices that the author of this story took to sexualize children, NOT Tei. Mid sex scene, the author feels the need to have Tei call to attention that Shuraka is "all grown up now", now sure, this IS a simple observation on how this isn't the boy that he used to know, but... This, again, connects Shuraka to who he was as a child. This shows that during sex, not only did Tei let himself think of Shuraka as a child, but it gently nudges the readers' minds towards being reminded of that same child. Barely 14 panels later, right after we are shown ACTUAL sex, there is a cutaway to a child. It does not matter if this scene of the child does not depict him in a sexual light, it does not matter if Shuraka wasn’t meaning it sexually when he brought it up(Could be questionable since we know that this character has romantic & sexual feelings for Tei.), the author still decided to place a panel of a full child after those of people having sex. If you cannot look at this and agree that it is perverted to place a panel of a child right in the middle of the aftermath of two people having sex, then it is useless for me to argue any further, as you only prove my point. The context in which a child is put there does not excuse the child being there, I’m sorry if you think otherwise.

You may try and defend this by calling me a degenerate for letting my mind go in that direction while reading, to which I can assure you it did not, but this would also be a really poor deflection??? I am simply pointing out things the author has used to influence the readers into a certain direction, this does not take a trained eye to see! I am saying this manhwa is predatory towards its readers, and I am telling you why I think so.

You’re really confusing me with the thread I commented on that saw an issue with the whole child issue plot? Like, are you talking about this one, or…?? Because when I came into THIS thread, it was not about that. All they had said was that there was a gross pedoplot, and I agreed. And again, Tei thinks that Shuraka is “all grown up now” in chapter 12, yes, but that’s literally while they are in the middle of having sex… This only supports MY point.

Yes, I mean it when I say that Tei does weird shit. He knows that Shuraka holds these emotions towards him, he has all of these thoughts about what he thinks is love or not, yet he still does not set any clear boundaries with him about what they can and cannot do. Sure, this is an arranged marriage that Tei is also a part of, but Shuraka makes it clear that he cares about Tei and that Tei has the room to voice his own opinions on a matter–yet still, Tei initiates the entire thing of him giving Shuraka head instead of trying to present him with alternatives, Tei chooses to force Shuraka to drink water through kissing him instead of simply handing him the cup, or trying to get him to drink from the cup by pouring the water into his mouth??? Sure, if you think that the first sex scene between Tei and Shuraka was forced by Shuraka and that Tei is a victim of rape (Which he would have to be, seeing as he did not give his consent.) then Tei IS a victim… But this does not make anything the story presents to us good. This creates a gross dynamic between a victim and his abuser, one that the story only goes on to romanticize without even bothering to address the unconsensual aspect of. It shows someone falling victim to abuse without the abuser receiving any repercussions for it, not even from the narrative. There is not a single scene where Shuraka is viewed as disgusting by Tei for what he did, there is NOTHING in the text that suggests that what Shuraka did was wrong, yet you still try to use this point to defend the story?

From the start of this argument, you have continuously come in and typed out long paragraphs emphasizing the same things without taking into consideration our points. You keep finding the perfect excuses to brush off everything we have to say while hurling unnecessary insults at us and refusing to speak to us on the same level as we are to you. Instead, you have been going out to OTHER threads to attack me, to talk about me more, and to act as if you are on the high ground here. Every word you type is literally oozing in your own self confidence and the high you get off of personally insulting strangers online, yet you still choose to continuously bring up age? For being the age that you are, you are horrifically immature. You cannot engage in a discussion respectfully, and you allow critiques of a work that are completely separate from you as a person to impact you so deeply that you feel the need to type a response, not GET any response, come back multiple hours later, type another response, not get a response AGAIN, and then STILL come back another multiple hours later. You came to the discussion seething, and still, you continue to spread needless disrespect about a topic that will receive scrutiny if you explain it to anyone NOT into gross pedo content.

Because most people in the comments enjoyed this work, we did not go into their spaces, we did not insist that they stopped reading the story. We created our OWN space to talk about our ideas on this topic, and instead, you found yourself agitated by something you never had to interact with in the first place, and immediately came to us with your guns blazing. You continuously show little control over your emotions, frankly, it's embarrassing.

I also dgaf about other manhwa, why do you have to run to something MORE predatory to defend your point??? lol thanks for letting us know that you read 22 chapters of pedophilia tho

Keep making yourself look like a fool, queen. That Manwha is #1 on the site at the time of reading. Additionally you forgot to reply to the comment where I literally quoted all of what you were saying. Go reply to that <3

To clarify, the manwha is not pedophilic. The older MC (30years) had no romantic feelings at all for the ML (20 years) until this ML started getting piss drunk. And even then, he denied it until ML confessed in the car. So keep exposing how you don't read.

Alright that was my bad, I didn't read the wall of text and emotion. Let me try to reply to this thoroughly before work.

To be honest, yeah, I don't care what the other people are doing. If you're hurt by comments slinging around words that aren't even slurs, you haven't been on the internet long enough. Get off the internet or ignore it if you think you're so righteous, because unfortunately it is a common part of internet culture.

2nd paragraph is unnecessary. In the one where I quoted you saying everything plainly, I disregarded the child marriage part entirely.

3rd paragraph. Yes I will say it is poor translation. The language used is: 회사인에게 욕정을 품은 모든 게 서툴던 소년의 실수였다. Which could POTENTIALLY translate to (I'm not a Korean speaker) "It was all a mistake of a clumsy boy who had a crush on a company employee." via Google or "It was the mistake of a clumsy boy who harbored lust for a company employee." via DeepL. You can try it now because you have the original korean. But notice the language. Tei isnt comparing shuraka to an actual child, this is language of masculinity like I was trying to say last time. A "boy" carried the connotation of someone underage, OR someone who is still an adult but hasn't seen the world yet. A man could mean an adult, OR someone who is confident and knows the world.
https://newtoki469.com/webtoon/55055202?stx=%EB%B0%B1%EC%95%BC%EC%9D%98+%EA%BD%83%EA%B8%B8&toon=BL%2FGL there's the link, but if you don't trust the raw link, just search newtoki. Frankly, it's very narrow-minded of you to just focus on one word and the situation when Tei is very clearly saying Shuraka is inexperienced. He also very clearly says it is a mistake around these chapters.its also funny that, while Tei pushes him off, he only does this because he sees it as caring for Shuraka in there chapters because again, the man was hitting himself. So yes, translator error. Bad writing. That's my poison. Original Korean was better.

4th paragraph. Your opinion. Become a writer. Are you studied in composition? Do you have a popular manwha you authored? Have you read every book in existence that does this as well? If other people enjoy it, then I don't care if YOU say its distasteful. THIS IS A TOPIC CHANGE ON YOUR PART. Tei is definitely coerced, making him the victim. And to me, this is sexual assault on Shuraka's part.

I'll reply to the 5th and rest of the paragraphs after work. I got 3 mins to get ready.

Okay. 5th paragraph now.
"sexualization of Shuraka as a child" I really don't know how you're seeing this. Like actually. Maybe I have a more innocent mind than you?

"right after we are shown ACTUAL sex, there is a cutaway to a child" Right after they are done with the act you mean. So the physical release of lust and emotions are DONE. POST NUT CLARITY. Then, it shows then hugging. The next text says "SHELTER of your embrace" (from Shuraka, aka seeking protection from the scary fever/confusion). The picture of him as a child indicates the protection and safety he had. There's no picture of a child having sex nor a child in a provocative position, nor anything sex related. Plenty of children seek the comfort of their parents when they're anxious or scared by going to their bed. His next words are even, "it's so cold now (so please stay with me)". THIS LEVEL OF PURITY. It is horrifying that YOU see this as sexual. I'm pretty sure this is what most readers see this akin to. I'm pretty sure the author wants the readers to know Shuraka, despite going through shit and blood, still finds Tei as a source of serenity and this is why he seeks him. NOT to link a sexual experience to that of a child. Otherwise, we would see WAY WAY WAY more overlap and propaganda.

Also, Ch12. Please cite the areas so I don't have to go searching. I don't have nor want to memorize this shit.


"Tei let himself think of Shuraka as a child" it really doesn't. Like, it REALLY. So let's back up and put it in context. Shuraka forces himself on Tei and coerced him into sex because he kept hitting himself in Ch11. Hence the wording "mistake (Tei says he must hasten this before Shuraka regrets/makes a mistake earlier), clumsy, awkward, etc.". Once again, supports that the wording not talking about a CHILD but the DEMEANOR and TEMPERMENT of a CHILD who is IMMATURE and IMPULSIVE and SELFISH.

In ch12, Shuraka asks for consent finally like an adult and not an impulsive bitch motivated by lust. THIS is what he means by all grown up now. He even backtracks and says, "maybe he know what he wants."

"...perverted to place a panel of a child right in the middle of the aftermath of two people having sex" Is it in the middle, or the aftermath? Choose. If it were in the middle of sex, that would be highly disgusting. This is post-nut clarity and or tiredness (sex is highly exercising AND hes sick, tiredness is more plausible) washing over, and Shuraka is wishing for old times again where he felt protected by Tei. Hence the fucking flash back. You're looking way too far into it. Would it be sexualizing a child if say, 2 adults had sex and right after, thought of their children after? Or thought of the times they were kids and looking back at old times? Are you really going to be that disgusting to overlap such a thing like that?


6th Para. "author has used to influence the readers into a certain direction" literally only you are seeing it this way. Everyone else on your side saying it's pedophilia is talking about the child marriage and the acts happening during it. You're the only one reading this disgustingly, pervertedly far into a relationship that is pure and yearning. It does not take a trained eye to see this, but it does take a self-righteous gooner OR possibly a scarred victim to see what you're seeing.

7th Para. "Tei thinks that Shuraka is “all grown up now” in chapter 12, yes, but that’s literally while they are in the middle of having sex" clearly you are not reading the chapters. So, in sex, couples can chat. Couples can reminisce and reshape the direction of the act. And when Tei says this, Shuraka is asking for consent to which he previously didn't when he impulsively pushed Tei down and grinded on him and kissed him desperately. Can you see a difference between these two behaviors? Because Tei and most of the audience can.

8th Para. To your point, I did find it weird Tei did give mouth to mouth water. But also we did just do a time skip before then, and Shuraka is sweating red faced in bed. Shuraka is acting weak and shit, and Tei probably found it better to be hands on since Shuraka wasn't moving from his position the entire time Tei nursed. However, he DID push him away. He DID tell him to calm down (11). He DID try to prevent Shuraka from hurting himself. If he left, Shuraka would only resort to pain as he has proven just then to reign in his desire. And Shuraka is now using his words against him to COERCE him into sex. Therefore, using the words in ch 12, he wants to bring this to a swift end. It fucking worked since Shuraka fell asleep at the end. Yes, Tei is the victim as we have established. However, now he gives consent halfway through, lessening the crime.

But now, things get hairy. The reason he doesn't seem disgusting is because Tei is also into this. First he sees it as a duty to release Shuraka to keep him sane and not hurt. But the next time they have sex, he is more open and willing. In fact, he initiates it in Ch14. But do you know why? It's because he starting to realize Shuraka truly does want him and Tei wants Shuraka, too. Not only has he been wishing Shuraka to be in good health since the beginning, his entire life trajectory got set in motion toward him. Bro is down bad. That's why most of it isn't weird.

What I find weird is that you don't call Shuraka as weird as Tei and only switch up your wording when I told you Tei pushed him off in those earlier replies. You prove time and time again you aren't actually reading the chapters. You blame Tei for not doing xyz as "the adult" here, but funnily enough, YOU'RE the one thinking of Shuraka as the child in this dynamic for not pushing Shuraka off. Why isn't Shuraka weird for coming onto Tei from a simple "kiss" (Tei was just trying to get him to drink water as weird as it was)? Why isn't Shuraka weird for constantly pursing a man that wants him to find someone else? Seems pretty one sided. FYI, Shuraka doesnt find Tei weird either. Huh. Dont know why you didnt bring that up, either. But, that's besides the point.

"there is NOTHING in the text that suggests that what Shuraka did was wrong" Yeah sure just keep ignoring Tei keeps calling this a fucking mistake and how he doesn't want shuraka to make a mistake with him. Did you know? Mistake is synonymous for doing something wrong.

I lost count paragraph:
"You keep finding the perfect excuses to brush off everything we have to say" Do you want to know why? Because none of you are reading the story. The fact I have to give you context to the story. The fact I had to tell you Tei did push Shuraka off, or off topically, the fact you didn't even read the other manwha and immediately assumed it was pedophilic without reading anything. Assumptions, assumptions, assump-- How about we actually just derive our opinions from the story itself and not jump to "omg sex scene? Now a kid?? I didn't read the text but this means sexualizing!@@ lying with a kid!!" None of these are excuses... if I'm literally grabbing the text from the manwha while YOU keep grabbing shit from your mind.

" other threads to attack me" I didn't name you, but yeah, you can think of it that way if you want. What are you gonna do about it? Report me for saying the truth? That you're wrong? I've had people block me for saying things. I didn't want my voice to be silenced like then. But you can think of it as that if you want.

"For being the age that you are, you are horrifically immature." Thanks!!! It's almost like... omg... I'm acting like a child!!! Oh shit, we were talking about sex! Does that mean you're sexualizing me ???? Joking.

"You cannot engage in a discussion respectfully" Respectfully, OP called 323 and more people who read or like to read this story pedophiles.Respectfully, this is a damaging title and a label that can ruin lives. Respectfully, they posted it publicly with a hee-haw manner. You decided to jump into something charged. The OP kept using Gen Z lowercase language making it unserious, as well as calling everyone who defended their own opinions pedos. Obviously, if you want to come in throwing fire, you're going to get fire. Were you not going "lolz" and "omg pedo" with OP as well, or am I mistaken looking back?

"Because most people in the comments enjoyed this work, we did not go into their spaces,", OK, but you did.
Mango has both the Question and Experience panels separate from the series which they could have taken their opinion to. Instead, they came to the series comment section, public to all, including those not logged in. This opened them up to scrutiny. Additionally, nobody is barring you from telling your opinions online. You're free to be wrong about your opinions and/or nor engage with people who go against you and simply spam your opinion, just as people are allowed to disagree with you. I don't even know why you're writing this fucking paragraph when you came into a space where people are reading the damn chapters. That means you ENTERED A SPACE where PEOPLE WANT to READ IT. KEEP LYING TO YOURSELF LMAO

"We created our OWN space" you mean OP publically ragebaited people by attacking them with the pedo label on a public forum on the comment section of a mostly positive community. Yeah keep telling yourself tthat. X, Instagram, Hate for Blossoms Dedicated Thread, those would be your dedicated spaces to spread your dislike. The comment section of a series is a neutral zone. It is NOT for you to claim and it never has been.

"You continuously show little control over your emotions, frankly, it's embarrassing" the fact that you have to say this to another troll is funny as hell. Honestly, i might pin this to my profile. I want to say, I have been laughing and cackling the entire time no joke. Honestly, internet arguments are what give me energy. Gives me something to do besides a boring ass 9-5. You'll understand soon when you enter the workforce.

Also, I did forget to clarify
"you have been going out to OTHER threads to attack me," I made 1 thread about the MIA OP, not you since the child marriage did not have anything to do with what you were talking about, and replied to other people who were commenting about the same situation and was like "Yeah lmao that's crazy" damn. Me agreeing and also quoting the very thing that made all your shit collapse in 1 second using facts is attacking you. Mmkay. If it didn't matter to you who had what opinion, it wouldn't bother you because, you know, you're apparently right. And also, you went to those threads too, without being name dropped. So it's kinda your fault for engaging with it too. With brings me to:


"you found yourself agitated by something you never had to interact with in the first place"

IRONY LMAOOO