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The funniest contradiction. :D :D

Because when Mikhail grabbed Fei's face, he saw a face full of resentment and bitterness. It was too much to take so he pushed him on his knees to avoid it.

I didn´t get that.. Thanks.

Finally confirmed not canon. It was kinda obvious when Mikhail and yuri appeared at the onsen actually but at least now we know for sure.

But in the onsen chapter it is implied that aki and fei were emailing each other. Maybe author just want the readers to know that fei and aki still contact each other after the hongkong arc....

The onsen extra looks symbolic more than canon, and yeah, it's implied aki and fei were in contact through e mails, texts, also in Fei's novel there's this implication.

I can't believe how many idiots out there actually believed the onsen extra was canon. There is an actual interview in print where Yamane-sensei says she did it as fanservice since fans were asking for a threesome. However, there are canon bits interspersed in it: like Aki and Fei comunicating and Mikhail and Yuri' appearances, for me at the time that was foreshadowing on sensei's part. Mikhail has already turned out to be back in the game and one of the major key players, as for Yuri....I have never belived him to be dead. That eyepatch is from getting shot in the eyeball by Asami for sure, LOL.

I lowkey worship the onsen part

It might be canon in the future, a great sandwich ah mye gad!

But what is the reason?

If they do it then Asami would be cheating on Aki which would diminish my opinion of Asami completely so i would not like to see it. AXA relationship has been slowly developing over the past 10 years and a situation like that would put it back 10 years again . If it was an AU then yeah maybe possible but still unlikely to happen.

Too much sexiness for mortal eyes

I don't believe you love Aki. If you did, you wouldn't wish for Asami to cheat on him, not after all that Aki has been through and how hard it was for him to trust Asami. You don't love Fei, either, or you wouldn't wish for a one-night-stand with the man he wasted seven years of his life obsessing over. Now when Fei has finally moved on, you want something that will wreck his life again. If you're just here for the hot sex between the bishies just admit that. Don't pretend you care about the characters when what you're wishing for would hurt all of them.

You are not alone. I often imagine a AxFxA sandwhich, that would be hot as Hell. Btw, pay no attention to those who would put you down for it. You can imagine anything you want to. :)

I'd be glad to risk blindness to see it!

Love will have sexual desire, Asami as long as love FeiLong will try to close to his body and mind, it will happen.
I believe that Asami will make fans understand what love is, how to love a person.
They will bring beautiful love.

It would make no sense at all to the storyline as it is now but I doubt you care about the storyline anyway.

If you want smut, just look for a fanfic. It would actually be very telling if that actually happens in the story, and not in a good way.

I love the story as YA has written it and I see it as cannon. I don't believe the author intends any long term, intimate relationship between Asami and Fei. However, what an individual imagines within their own mind is up to them, and there is no harm in it. :)

Well it sounds from the original comment the poster wants it to be depicted and not just in the mind so I'm just saying it really doesn't fit in the storyline. If all they wanted was to imagine then who's stoping them.

Totally Agreed with you, imbalance in the fanbase as well as in the story, It's progressing in well pace, the one-night-stand,One-Time will ruined it. also I'm not seeing any setting of it.

The comment does read that way. While YA has provided fan service before I don't think she's going to do anything that would significantly disrupt the primary story. The only way to pull something like that off is with a "dream" side story.

I can think of another way...

How, please? Oo

Did you find a plot bunny?

?!

I'm guessing the other way is killing off Akihito? I'd say you're being extreme, but something something desperate times desperate measures

Drugging/bash on the back of the head > tie up > etc etc

I'm guessing you missed NW's stipulation of pulling it off by "not doing anything that would significantly disrupt the primary story".

Or, you just chose to ignore it.

You know I was thinking, it used to be that if you wanted smut you'd be told to read some yaoi manga, how times have changed if now people direct others to fanfics for that (￣∇￣")

Not a good idea (⊙…⊙ )

No need to kill anyone off here, that would be what's too extreme. What if it were simply that Akihito asked Asami and Fei to have sex so he could watch and satisfy his voyeuristic tendencies? Then there would be no need for head bashing...

But then that would be OOC for Akihito... unless its a dream of course.

Come on, boys! There would be many ways to create a romantic scene between Asami and Feilong without hurting the main story. Akihito may have a nightmare and dream of a betrayal of Asami; or Sensei could draw a flashback set years before the main pair. And if I should be honest, though Asami had a romantic relationship with Fei in HL, I would not have seen any problems with Akihito (which Asami knew seven years later). What is the truth? Simple: YA does not want to draw any picture of the two because he knows that this would be non-canonical and that even in his dream would damage the fandom. Finder is not a novel, it's a comic. In a comic the images are fundamental. Sensei does not want to encourage AxF in any way. I think it's okay. But I think she should launch a partner for Feilong (in the comic, not in a novel) to make it clear that Feilong does not want Asami anymore in a romantic way. Asami's feelings are clear: he wants Akihito. But now in fandom prevails the idea that Feilong will always love Asami. This is the main reason why AxF fans still exist. They are looking for a Fei charge that will never come. This is my opinion.

I am in agreement with you. Feilong love story is yet to be written. I don't know if it will be since this is Asami and Takaba. Feilong grew up and long ago moved beyond. People forget he blamed Asami for his father's death according to Feilong and the bullet wound he carried not leaving him.

exact. Fei's story has not been written and it is not said that will be. But I think if Sensei would even draw a single page, a single kiss between Fei and Yoh, or Mik etc. AxF would disappear altogether. I hope this happens, it would not be a great effort and would take nothing away from the main pair. Also remember that even if Finder ends, Sensei could draw short chapters and extra, without commitment or deadlines by entering whoever wants: AxA of course, but also Feilong x?, Mik x? etc...

true. One good panel of Yoh and Fei would do it . I believe that the real prob. is beyond just A and Fei but the people who have gotten used to getting attention for those posts, they will to cont. to troll. Bec. of them this page has attracted trolls . example he's ugly" under a post abt. Asami. It is easy to ignore yes. It has also fractured the page. You can't have a conversation abt. anything bec. it turns into a debate abt. against Fei Tababa fans. that is the way certain folks refer to each other and others by the posts. There are few Viewfinder fans and little posts abt. plot or story any more. That's my feeling

the only way to eliminate trolls is to ignore them but unfortunately I see that this does not happen. But I do not talk about trolls. I speak of those who really and without bad intention still hope for a relationship between Asami and Feilong. Of course, I do not condemn them: everyone in his fantasies can do what he wants. But I'm sorry for them because they will experience a very strong disappointment

I ask you in all honesty she has been writing this for 15 years . Never any completion of the act. They are never going to Why, bec, Asami and Feilong are 2 sides of the exact same coin., who would never give up an inch of their power for the other. Why would they?

I agree with you. No one would ever surrender to the other. It is no coincidence that Feilong has passed the feeling for Asami when he becomes equal.

I agree with you there is no coincidence that Feilong has long ago passed that feeling . Y. A. puts him on his feet in FNR. He seeks out Yoh not Asami. he is texting Takaba,yet people still chose to overlook Feilong's growth.

Asami's innermost feelings are the same as Yoh's inner thoughts to FeiLong(in Fei's novel).

So, meaning?

Asami's loves Feilong is what this poster is saying, that is the meaning behind the words.

What FeiLong thought was not equal to truth. He didn't really understand Asami.
Just like he didn't understand the real reason why Yoh left him. Only Yoh's inner monologue is the truth.

No one knows what you are saying. Asami was not in FNR. has nothing to do with the novel. The novel takes place between Fei and Yoh. Asami and Yoh don't share one brain and 2 bodies. I;m ending here.

Actually, Fei Long knew exactly why Yoh turned down the chance to return to his position and he even expected that Yoh probably would refuse it even as he made the offer.

It's true Fei doesn't understand Asami (who does?) but Fei realized on the casino ship that Asami loved Akihito.

Fei was so hurt by this realization that he briefly hit the point that he wanted to die, which is why he tried to provoke Asami and Asami's men into shooting him (as a bonus, Asami would perish as well). Fortunately Akihito intervened.

Seeing the truth before his eyes devastated him, and it was because of THAT that Fei didn't kill Yoh for his betrayal (since he could see Yoh grappling with the same kind of anguish). Yoh was in a similar mindset when he handed his gun to Fei Long and asked him to kill him.

The whole intent of the final chapter in the NT arc was to resolve the question of "do Asami and Akihito love each other?" This is even stated by YA in her End Notes in Vol. 5. Volume 6 picks up with Asami and Akihito beginning their relationship.

The final chapter in NT also gave some closure to Fei Long (Yoh's resolution came later in FnR).

I'm not saying that FeiLon realized he didn't know.
He certainly thinks he knows at the moment.

You can try to summarize the original and you'll see what I mean.
"Fei's view on Yoh's departure" VS "Yoh's inner monologue"
In the novel, Yoh did a lot of inner monologue and gave ample explanation. But these are things that Feilon didn't know.

And then manga: "F's view on Asami's departure" VS "Asami's inner monologue"
Unlike the novel, Asami in the manga does not have any inner monologue to explain himself.
But the author gave us a lot of clues to help understand..."EMPATHY"
......

Feilon didn't know why Yoh betrayed him, but he didn't ask, and Yoh didn't explain it. Yoh didn't ask for forgiveness, but he preferred to die under F's gun. The reason is that he loves Fei, so why does he suggest Asami steal Fei's deed? Can you understand that Yoh did everything because of love?
Anyway, I just want to say that Fei Long's view is very limited. Like his inner monologue "a person's heart is so difficult to understand..."Now he didn't really understand, he understood wrong.The author is just showing the inner entanglements between them, and the answer hasn't been officially announced yet.

So you're trying to say that what we see about the manga and the novels is actually the partial (and not complete) version of any of the characters that interact with Asami but not the whole thing? sounds interesting.

In the introduction and end of the novel, the author's explanation has been very sufficient. But many people only look at translated novels, and do not pay attention to the introduction/ explanation of other places.
This is not a story in the manga, she created this new story to show the inner entanglement of the characters. And this new story is adapted from manga. And her original intention is not to let Fei and Yoh complete the sexual relationships, but she compromised. Do you know why she must explain? Because this part of the modification is somehow confusing the reader. She had to make a reasonable explanation beforehand, and she just wanted to prove that she didn't deliberately confuse the reader.
She's just creating a parallel world with empathy. You can try to think about the prototype of the story.You'll find it's really interesting.

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"But these are things that Feilon didn't know."

What Fei didn't know: he doesn't know that Yoh intends to return to his side as his equal. How he's going to pull that off, I don't know. "Yoh in power" would be interesting. Who knows? Maybe he'll be the one to save the day in this current arc.

"Feilon didn't know why Yoh betrayed him"

Fei's not stupid. He realized fairly quickly that Yoh had been Asami's man all along. This was even talked about in FnR.

"so why does he suggest Asami steal Fei's deed?"

Yoh was working for Asami and despite his feelings for Fei, he was still loyal to Asami. Yoh could've just arranged for Akihito to "escape" and just delivered to Asami in the first place, but he apparently was beginning to struggle with that loyalty. After Akihito's first attempted escape, he was more closely watched so Yoh needed to come up with another solution. Stealing the deed gave Asami leverage in securing Akihito's safe return. In the end, Yoh remained staunchly loyal to Asami; he risked his life, destroyed his relationship with Fei and the Bai She, and even accepted that Asami might kill Fei... all to return Akihito to Asami.

Btw, YA provides an outline for the novelists. The inner dialogue of the characters is in their voice, not YA's. I'm not sure how much input YA has after its written, but I'm going to guess "not much" since there are a few glaring inconsistencies in which background information in FnR does not match up with what is presented in the manga. Then again, novelizations (or the inverse of book-to-screen) often create AUs.

I agree with you on many things except on two:
1- Asami would kill Feilong
2 - Yoh accepted Fei's death

Akihito stands between Asami and Fei but I am convinced that Asami would not come to kill Feilong because I believe Aki's conviction that the two men did not want to die or kill was the truth as communicated by YA.
2- I think Yoh just did not arrive in time to prevent the clash as Asami failed to prevent Yuri from shooting. Yoh tries to find a solution that can save Akihito and Feilong. A diplomatic solution. Asami could have killed Fei before.

Asami and Fei are two sides of the same medal. Same goals, same darkness, enemies, demanding parents. They even shared Akihito (physically, not sentimental). Asami should have killed Feilong for having kidnapped Aki. I believe that Asami and Fei are bound by something strong that is not love or passion. Something Asami knows and Fei does not know. I suppose, a bond between their parents (Toh and Asami's father?), Or a kinship relationship. I have this feeling. They are not just companions of weapons.

I always think of a phrase I've never been able to interpret: "It's neither love nor passion, then what is it burning in my heart?" Who feels this phrase: Feilong? Asami?
(vol.2 ch 5 page 2)

Yoh asked for forgiveness when he gave Fei the gun, Feilong forgave him by not taking his life.

It does not have to be by blood of kinship. That Toh situation was pretty intense. that could have bound them in a kind of band of brothers way? Having to kill your own father to save your own life. One of them having to shoot Toh, blood spilled like that can build a kind of bond on it's own.

this is not just this. Asami is too indulgent with Feilong. The situation with Toh was intense but only for Asami. I mean that Asami killed his ally after all (Toh), Feilong does not see Toh as his father, he does not live Toh's death as a problem: his tragedy has already been consumed with the death of old Liu

the relationship between Asami and Feilong is enclosed in the answer to this question. But I do not know the answer. What is a strong feeling enough to burn in the heart, without being love or passion? Hate? Vengeance? Certainly not friendship. I do not know. it is an ambiguous question for anyone who pronounces it. (I think Asami, but it is not discounted)

I didn't say Asami would kill Fei Long. I only mentioned that in Asami's discussion with Yoh, he'd threatened to get revenge on Fei for what he'd done, no matter how things turned out. Yoh had no way of knowing whether or not Asami would actually kill him if pressed, but yet he still carried on with his duties.

There's no question that neither Asami or Fei wanted to kill the other. That was a key point in their contentious relationship. I still think Fei looked like he was ready to die at Asami's hand on the ship (much like Yoh was ready to die at Fei's hand).

Yes, the trading of the deed for Akihito's life was the best possible solution. However, once things went south, Yoh's first priority was Akihito's life, not Fei Long's. I dunno... maybe he assumed that Fei would be well protected by the Bai She (haha... fail.)

Now that I understand your thinking better, I think I agree with you completely

if yoh had simply delivered Akihito to Asami, Feilong's reputation would be compromised, and Fei would have weakened too much in Baishe. The compromise makes time and allows Fei to have an excuse to give Akihito to Asami without losing his face. I think Yoh has tried to protect Feilong in his own way. I remember that Yoh's position is very risky: Asami understands that Yoh is timid because there is a link with Fei, he asks him: "Are you sure you do not want to stay with Feilong?" Seven years are a long time ... "Asami understood all. But he accepts why he does not want to come to an extreme confrontation with Feilong. Yoh also runs risks with Asami. Do not forget it. Asami threatens him: "If takaba does not come back, your seven years at my service have been useless." Dangerous.

I conclude by saying that in my opinion, perspective is to be overturned. Yoh loves Feilong and chooses to save Akihito as the last mission to Asami. But he knows that true betrayal has been done against Asami. We recall that Yoh has been working for Asami for ever. He is a Japanese man. He should only give Akihito to Asami. Ever thought of Feilong's security (in theory his "work") is already a betrayal.

Honestly, Yoh's logic made no sense to me. By forcing Fei Long to trade Akihito for the deed, Yoh weakened Fei's position even more, prompting one of the Bai She to suggest a takeover once the trade for Akihito was complete.

I never thought to interpret Asami's statement "seven years you've spent will all been in vain (if Takaba doesn't make it back safely)" as a threat toward Yoh. I think he meant the seven years of Yoh working with Fei Long would've been wasted.* If anything, that seems like a vague threat toward Fei. But I can see how you could read it the other way.

*My evidence comes from Yoh's statement beforehand when Asami asks why he didn't report what Fei had been planning earlier, and Yoh stammers "I.. I know, but I never expected Fei Long to go this far..." THEN he walks it back, "...but this is not a matter involving the organization; it's a personal matter between you and Fei Long over which I have no..." (Asami cuts him off before he can say more).

I think it's as if Asami wanted to say "be careful, the seven years you have dedicated to me and of whom I am satisfied, they do not count anything for me if something happens to Akihito ... who is the most important thing now" ; something like "I trust you ... but do not mistake on Aki ...

You are all talking about your understanding, and the important thing is the original, not the result of your understanding.

And what if she were right?

Feilong , when Asami came to Hong Kong, sent assassins to greet him. They fought when they met. Felong bro. takes it out on Fei , who leaves the house and winds up with Asami.( they have already had a few fights they fought together.) Asami tells him Toh wants him , They meet Toh Fei says no. Fei tells Asami he has routes of his own that his family does not know abt. setting up a deal Asami tells Fei he is a man who will go his own way he wont go with Toh. that are attacked again by Fei's bro. they have not even gotten to the end yet.

It is clearly not saying that I'm right. It is my interpretation, my vision of events, which could be completely wrong. But I find it useful and enjoyable to compare my feelings with that of other readers and to know different points of view

a very interesting disc. It was enjoyable to compare.

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Yoh said he didn't come to ask for forgiveness.
When Yoh said, "If I am to die, Id rather die by your hand..."
Fei said, “honestly...you and [everyone] else...[Is this your way of putting an end to tings]?”

Yoh's answer is "This is the only way, for one whose heart was stolen by you."


A is the same as Marie,
All refused to explain, not to seek forgiveness, but rather to end everything with death

For this vision of events, Sensei needs to be an extraordinarily good narrator, but I'm not sure she is. She might be really good but to subvert completely a story she needs really, really, really good skills.

She has already subverted this story. Have you read the first chapter? Developing that into the long-running series we have now took really really really good skills. If you think just anyone could have pulled that off, you're' talking out of your ass. As usual.

Hi Lady, maybe your comment does not refer to me. I'm the anonymous one who talked about Yoh. I could have mistaken my interpretation of Asami's "threat" to Yoh, but I do not think that thing overturns the main plot after all. I'm not the same person who speaks of inner monologues etc ... indeed because of google translator I did not understand that discussion unfortunately so I did not comment on anything. I would like to know your point of view about Asami / Yoh / Feilong's actions on the ship. I know you're a Fei x Yoh fan like me. I just came up to point out some cues about the analysis made by "J".

Ok. Sorry, I thought you were the person with the idea Sensei is writing and drawing something completely different from what it appears to most. I like Fei & Yoh as a couple, their personalities are complementary from my point of view.

And maybe they are already together at this point of the story (this is my guess) ^_~

I know that the presence of many anonymous makes it difficult to understand who is talking and writing, but unfortunately I have read many insults and various attacks, in my opinion very serious, so I prefer to remain anonymous. I apologize for this, but I'm a guy who is bad if he should be insulted.

"bad" means "sad"

it would be wonderful to find out that Yoh is back in Hong Kong and that Feilong and Yoh are together. But if it is so Yoh must appear from next chapter: it would be strange if he left Fei alone in danger!

Finally, I conclude with a consideration on the main thrust. I would never want to see Asami and Feilong together. I admit they are beautifully designed and attract many fans, but the couple would not like it: boring, predictable and distressing. Incompatible in character and both dominant (semen or uke, no matter. They are both dominant). Obviously, I speak of a non-canon couple, as I have no doubt that Finder speaks of the love between Akihto and Asami. Only Akihto and Asami.

"semen" = seme

Yeah, maybe. My idea is that Yoh is the person who's giving Fei secret info and maybe the same person who calls Fei to warn him about the men following him to Asami's hideout. Oo. Could it be? *0*

Let's hope! By the way ... where are the Feilong men? They leave their leader in danger? I imagine the next chapter is crucial!

Yeah. Maybe Fei went inside alone (only with Yoh waiting for him outside *0*) and the only men there (not counting Asami and Fei) are Asami's underlings (with many of them dead by now) and their enemies *0* *0*
Yeah, next chapter is crucial, can't wait for it!!

Trash.

Lol... he does give off that vibe.

I'm okay with it too ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
This is one of the few threesome mangas that I like.

Me toooo.. So much reason why i like this threesome yaoi but i cant put it into words hahhhha