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Andreita October 26, 2018 7:58 pm

God dammit! everything was going well until that guy started talking shit about bisexuals. I seriously don't understand why a lot of mangakas seem to think that it is fine to demonize us, in way too much BL bi people are presented as cheaters, sluts and players, and that is extremely hurtful.
We bisexuals already have to deal with a lot of shit from heteros and even within the LGBTQ+ community because of those harmful stereotypes.
I'm sorry if this is a bit too ragey, but I'm so tired of people still using those stupid stereotypes, like wtf does the mangaka mean with "Bisexuals will choose the easiest option (heterosexual relationships)"!?, thats so ignorant and biphobic I want to scream.

    Lizzie October 26, 2018 8:03 pm

    And then you have the "straight" reaction - which is basically the same.

    I can get Minato's friend's view though, he's been burned before, so he paints them with a broad brush.

    Andreita October 26, 2018 8:15 pm
    And then you have the "straight" reaction - which is basically the same. I can get Minato's friend's view though, he's been burned before, so he paints them with a broad brush. Lizzie

    yes, I do understand the friend's point of view, he had a bad experience with a bisexual, but that still doesn't justify him painting all bisexuals as his ex. That is really harmful, and it is just spreading misinformation.

    jessik October 26, 2018 8:30 pm
    yes, I do understand the friend's point of view, he had a bad experience with a bisexual, but that still doesn't justify him painting all bisexuals as his ex. That is really harmful, and it is just spreading mi... Andreita

    Is true, it's not good to paint all bisexuals the same just because of one person but people tend to be wary of others after a bad experience, is not fair but after going through something like that you start to wonder what if with others is the same, I'm not only saying this because of bisexuals, but people in general

    luomingming October 26, 2018 8:33 pm

    i think (and i definitely could be wrong) that it's more cultural? because in japan being outwardly gay is still rare and not as accepted as in other places so it's saying for japanese men they might take the more "comfortable" path. that's kind of how i took that conversation rather than them painting all bisexuals with a wide brush.

    Andreita October 26, 2018 8:49 pm
    Is true, it's not good to paint all bisexuals the same just because of one person but people tend to be wary of others after a bad experience, is not fair but after going through something like that you start t... jessik

    I understand that, but there's a difference between you being wary of future experiences involving similar circunstances, in this cause dating a bi person, and spreading misinformation to other people based just on that bad experience, which only causes harm to people who have nothing to do with what happened to you.
    And I do understand that those words might also come from a place of hurt because of what happened, but still, it just hurts more people that haven't done anything.

    Andreita October 26, 2018 9:02 pm
    i think (and i definitely could be wrong) that it's more cultural? because in japan being outwardly gay is still rare and not as accepted as in other places so it's saying for japanese men they might take the m... luomingming

    I thought about it too, seeing how in a lot of depictions of asian culture, people seem to have a lot of pressure to get married and have kids, but then looking at it from that point of view, those kinds of stereotypes are even more damaging, because they create this false ideas that completely erase the possibilities for bi people.
    Like, if you have that horrible pressure to conform to the norms but you still try and break from them and date someone of the same sex, if you already have this preformed notions about bi people eventually leaving you for same one who they can marry and for someone who they can have an "easier" relationship with, the you will most definitely not give them the time of day if they come onto you, because why bother risking everything for someone who is going to throw you away eventually.

    Gragill October 26, 2018 10:41 pm

    Stop being so bitchy. It's a fictional manga for a reason. If you get a BL manga with such a context get to you, it is you who's being harmful to yourself.

Andreita September 19, 2018 3:47 am

Seriously, I have way too many conflicting emotions inside me right now, like I'm shocked, and so extremely frustrated and angry and so so sad, like I literally cried when I saw the bite... I just can't right now... like no... just nope

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