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I think he’s just mad about the other dude touching Ken bahaha

Haha maybe so! (⌒▽⌒)
Might just be a "you're mine" face

Well you are not alone ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Horus and Seth I think

Actually no one Osiris raped his brother and his son is doing the same and Seth get stripped of his powers then Horus goes to find him and keep him as his sex slave it's not romantic

well that's fucked up.

Wow thank you so much for the replies! Exactly what I needed to know ♡ looking forward to seeing everything play out (minus the tragedy, obv) (≧∀≦)

Thank you for the heads up! I love the lore here - really well built out, so I'm enjoying the plot ☆

Lol, the author stated season 1 is mostly plot based and season 2 will be more BL based and a lot more sex scenes. The couple we’re suppose to eventually root for is Horus and Seth

it's not exactly romance it's BL's definition of romance. Horus rapes Seth doesn't negate that just because he's nice later, because Seth isn't aware of the truth, he just knows Horus rapes him. Then afterwards Horus comes across as just possessive like his father further intensifying the trauma Seth had previous experience and tries to avoid Horus's advances. Seth isn't a saint by any means but he really doesn't have autonomy in much of the story, so it feels like a consolation prize that he'll end up with Horus, when Seth just truly wants to be left alone with his son. I'm actually annoyed the author is spearheaded the romance element because it's just to end that standard BL romanticization of "romance" rather than a plot that is as is acknowledges there's no love lost between each of its characters.

just to add that standard**^^

my issue is the original legend includes homoeroticism as part of its core narrative which is fine but a BL spin to it, however for some reason BL always regardless of the genre feels the need to make everything a romance and HEA. That was the problem that Killing Stalking's creator found by included gay elements to their story and audiences romanticizing the toxicity of it. The BL for whatever reason as a genre doesn't allow for homoeroticism without romanticizing it or tokenizing, like it cannot exist as is as just an element to the story overall. Hence why you can have horror, psychological, tragedy, comedy in a BL yet it always has to include a romance no matter the circumstances for its audience or the audience will project that romance themselves as was seen in Killing Stalking. It doesn't make sense to make Seth eventually fall in love with Horus, if Seth was so angered by his rape and manipulation by Osiris to attempt to watch the world burn, why does Horus get a pass? Even before the possession, Seth hates Horus. This should truly solidify Seth's hatred not him somehow being able separate his animosity enough to fall in love with Horus just because Horus's intentions while good inconvenience and take away as I've mentioned Seth's autonomy and self worth he clings to in righteous anger. If we ignored that then, it stands to reason with that logic Osiris "protecting Seth for is own good" wouldn't that be a valid to forgive him too?You can't just ignore someone raping you just because they didn't mean to rape you and not project that emotional experience on any else but the active participator in your trauma. Seth associates his trauma and hate with those who have actively enforced defiling him, that is Osiris and now Horus. I don't mind the gayness in this story in fact it's great the author has decided to expand on an old myth and give their own spin on it to modernize it. But part of the gayness in the myth is about power and who holds power and dominance not the gender dynamics itself as is much of this current story itself demonstrate. Personally reducing this story to just another romance plot with just the extra steps of toxicity as is customary in BL reduces the value of the plot as it just comes across as pure fan service than actually necessary to the plot. I'd but just as powerful if Horus eventually teams up with Seth or develops feelings sure for Seth, but for Seth to return these sentiments seems wholly out of characters for him as he's been presented. And goes against his entire motivation just to appease readers who would desire a standard BL romance regardless of the central plot and its themes.

I wouldn’t say adding romance elements to a story which is also based on other genres is specific or overdone just in BL. There are many movies, novels, etc which include romance in them somehow. In fact, that’s how most things we watch or read is. But it stands out to us because we mostly read BL or show more interest in this genre at least so it stands out.

I wouldn’t say adding romance elements to a story which is also based on other genres is specific or overdone just in BL. There are many movies, novels, etc which include romance in them somehow. In fact, that’s how most things we watch or read is. But it stands out to us because we mostly read BL or show more interest in this genre at least so it stands out.

My point is there’s no separation of boy’s love as in boys being love in a plot and Boy’s Love the genre prioritizes the romance of men falling in love with each other. It’s all lumped together. So romance isn’t an element to the story, it defines the story of that makes sense. The same issue happens in Girl’s love because it is tokenized. In traditional heteronormative plots you can have romance take place but it’s just as if you’re adding it as a sidenote like you can have a genre mash of romantic comedy or a comedy that includes a romance if that make sense and they’re two different experiences. I don’t know if it’s cultural issue as most Asian countries who this plot is primarily targeted at would not be accustomed to elements of boy’s love as anything other than a specific fetish in itself rather than just a normalized element to a character or individual. It’s like how in the west some plots attempt the idea of two men kissing shouldn’t even give cause to even blink or interracial couple are just people at the end of the day and their race or sexuality doesn’t define their identity. BL’s identity is boys “being love“ at its forefront not boys participating in love or romantic elements. Maybe when it becomes more normalized we may see this difference in experience.

Then if that is the case this author has just chosen to reinterpret Seth’s whole characterization so that it meets the demands of the story she’s writing and that’s fine. But that’s not the Seth of the myth as we know it this is a different Seth entirely. If this Seth doesn’t hold grudges one minutes for his enemy raping but is petty enough to torture and hate his wife by association to the wrong she’s done to him as he sees in relation to Osiris it comes as convenient personally to me this mindset isn’t extended to Horus who’s proximity to Osiris is just as prominent. It’s unbelievable this would be the same person who is this “reasonable”, but works with the narrative for Seth to fall in love with Horus because of his good intentions. I get everything you’re saying and I get the author’s rational in providing the Seth the companionship he’s always desired but it’s inconsistent characterization to desire that from a person Seth would normally feel has wronged him. We consistently see how Seth reacts And acts on grudges repeatedly. Of course there’s complexity but I’m just tired of how the hate to love trope is used in way that doesn’t make any sense for such deeply established animosity to be used a segue a romance that is just a “tamer” version of the antagonist’s obsessive love. It’s so illogical it works for fiction sure but if you’ve wrong someone directly they wouldn’t fall in love with you. In comparison the hate to love trope works if both characters have the wrong impression of each other but haven’t actively sought out to harm each other.

but that's completely ignoring the physical and emotional harm done to Seth by Horus, it's just the excuse of "he hurts me but he really cares" rational that happens in shoju plots all the time. Seth's trauma is just a catalyst for Horus to save him, when Horus is an active participant in that trauma. And that just doesn't sit right me is all. I think this is a great plot overall and i will continue to read it, but like i said personally i'm just over this type of romance because it's customary to BL's romantic validation of love should hurt narratives. I just wish Seth wasn't like every other "heroine" once a love interest is introduced to the mix is what I'm getting at, is anger is pain fuels him and I appreciate that for once it makes him do dynamic and gives complexity to him. When it's just tossed aside in way that makes room for love rather than Seth finding peace in himself it comes across as contrived. That's why i brought up the hate to love trope and how it's handling impacting the realism of the plot. I guess i shouldn't expect a masterpiece but i am disappointed.

his anger and pain fuels him***^^

It’s funny you mention that it been on my list of want to read for some time. Heard great stuff about it plus I’m kind of bored of reading BL as of late the genre is all the same. I’ve even gotten obsessed with some great dark titles like Dorohedoro which I’d highly recommend