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Regardless how he acted in the beginning. Garam’s behaviour when he gave him the rings was just so hurtful, I would’ve locked myself in the room and cried if I were Jaehyuk. And then after behaving like this, he did not explain himself and just blurted things out of anger and then disappeared out of the blue, instead of having a proper conversation about it.
It’s likely that Jaehyuk wouldn’t understand because he lived a different life, and for him he doesn’t care what other people think, Garam thinks that his own trauma is relevant to him when it not.
I really hate that “without me you would’ve been a normal straight guy” trope so much.
Regardless other things that bothered me with Jaehyuk like how he lied about the apartment and he is so madly in love that he would do literally anything for him which is insane-
They need to talk about those things and not pack their entire things and f live ffs

yes jayheok is in love , that's so great for him, but because he is in love , doesn't mean garam's past and trauma doesn't matter, garam has suffered and learned to protect himself, jayheok is a rich boy who grew up with whatever he wants, so now he wants garam, nothing new yes he loves him but so what, he should think bit more deeply about garam's past and instead of solving everything with money, buying house and wanting to be open to everyone but not asking for garam's consent for the same.
Also he has anger issues unlike garam who just goes along with his shit because he loves jayheok(●￣(ｴ)￣●)

I’m not saying Jaehyuk is perfect, not at all. But portraying Garam as an angel in this situation is just not right. having a trauma doesn’t justify any hurtful behaviour, he was acting like this and didn’t even explain anything to Jaehyuk? Jaehyuk has feelings too, and it’s a relationship as you said- Garam needs to explain his behaviour, how would he know what’s he is feeling?
and you’re saying Jaehyuk bought him this apartment without sacrificing anything…. He had no money afterwards and was willing to cut ties with his family (which is very extreme and I would’ve felt uncomfortable with it like Garam) but really if he is willing to sacrifice so much for him the bare minimum Garam can so is TALK

Jaehyuk really do needs to understand a trauma is involved and he can’t just out them like this- they need to talk about it properly and yes Jaehyuk comes from different circumstances that’s why he needs to have a proper conversation about it.
Also Garam isn’t thinking much about what he want through but more of what Jaehyuk will have to go through and that’s not his to decide at all.

"threaten break up" in many irl queer relationships, this isn't a threat. it's a legitimate deal breaker & it should be for them since it's causing both of them sm distress. yes, he was a homophobic dickhead but he was right in saying they should j break up if it's gonna be this difficult. even in straight relationships, people inevitably break up because they're incompatible in several different aspects - living ways, life values, etc. some things can be compromised, while some things can't, & it j depends on the person. for these 2, it's clear that neither of them want to compromise on this issue, & rightfully so. i'm personally out & fine with it, & i wouldn't be with someone who wants to shove me back in the closet either, because it can come with the same anxiety & depression being out can put you in. maybe not the same exact magnitude, but the same effects anyways. what's so wrong about suggesting a break up anyways when it's clear the 2 of you want something at the ultimate expense of the other?

I feel like every one has grace for homophobic dickhead Jayhoek but no grace for garam, he shouldn't threaten break up this is not a game, falling in love is easy and buying stuff is easier, but always expecting things to go his way is just plain selfish and also just announcing garam is in a gay relationship when garam dint consent, I just can't agree that garam is at fault here when jayheok is sex crazed plain selfish asshole

first of all, i don't understand why you keep saying it's a "threat". if it's because he got upset because gr was actually considering the options, then fine, but imo, it wasn't that much of a threat & it makes sense to propose breaking up - smth that they should be doing atp

jh's clearly not the innocent one based on a lot of the chapters prior, but gr isn't blameless. no one is giving jh "grace". if people were giving jh grace, they'd forget everything he's done & deem his character completely forgiven, but more agree his character is shit & that he was wrong, even here. what you're upset about is that people see gr is wrong too. 2 people can be wrong in a fight, especially between couples. jh's bonkers, & gr is someone who always runs away. the only thing gr knows is to run away, sulk, go through his trauma in his head again another 500 times, cry, then things smoothen themselves out

mental illness & trauma is a thing, yes, i have a lot of disorders myself - but you can't expect people to cater to you because of it each time. you can't expect to not find coping mechanisms or to never find a way to heal from it. you can't expect to not wanting to talk to your partner yet always expect them to be understanding to you, then get shocked & upset when it turns into a fight. you can't say you're upset he hung up after putting you in a "tight spot", then regret it when he doesn't answer the phone, yet still have the audacity to want to run away when he's right in front of you the next day

again, jh isn't innocent. frankly, i don't see many that have grace for him in general. it's j that gr is in the wrong too, & in this chapter, it's even moreso. jh was always the one in wrong for outing gr, but gr's in the wrong for only ever running away. he isn't wrong for having trauma, but he's wrong for never moving forward

also, i forgot to add this in - but i j wanted to re-state that jh wasn't wrong in his "threat" or "proposition" to break up, even if it was made in anger. they should break up rn. everything you listed are all reasons why. i don't understand why you're upset jh "threatened" a break up with gr when it's clear you hate that they're together unless it's j cuz people are saying gr's annoying for running away again

You’re absolutely mischaracterising him.
You’re saying he thinks money can solve everything, then why did he buy that apartment and lost all of his money and contact with his parents? And I was looking how to make money so I could take care of his boyfriend???
Like be fr

He even protected Garam with his own body and has a scar on his face.


Yeah, in the beginning it was terrible, but you’re demonising his current self for no reason.
Also if Garam doesn’t like his sex drive he could break up with him…

Even if you don’t like him, which is valid, you can’t just be that blind it’s crazy,

It’s normal to fight and have disagreements, the mature thing to do is to sit down and talk about it and not run away, especially when the other person has sacrifice so much for you.

I feel like you did not read the past 40 chapters at all like

I absolutely agree. I think it’s so immature to think only one of them is wrong. Even if they end up not being together, which is valid, they have to talk and respect one another.

Honestly when jh was about to out them, I almost broke my phone from anger, but at the same time, I couldn’t stand the fact that gr didn’t explain him the ring situation which was heartbreaking to read, he just snapped at him twice and then disappeared. It’s so immature.

He also cannot decide for jh if he wants to come out, just to protect him… that’s his own decision what he is willing to face and who he wants to be, the decision is whether Garam wants to be with him in this process or not, and that’s definitely why I suggested to break up,
any decision is valid.

Well I think when jayheok makes mistakes like you know outing garam it's considered a oh silly mistake by his standards, but when garam is angry oh wow jayheok thinks it's unreasonable, I think jayheok is selfish because he has had everything growing up and garam has worked to get where he is , because he gave garam some comfort doesn't mean he can get way with the asshole ways he has treated garam

I guess , I just can't ever side with jayheok, like there is no valid points where I can see understanding him, thanks for the effort though. (=・ω・=)

Another moron who pretends Garam is a completely innocent angel. Very ironic considering you're bawling your eyes out about how bad Jaehyuk is Idiots everywhere showing us what a shit person they are and how their bias works only for their fav.

I absolutely agree with you Jaehyuk doesn’t know shit about the hardships Garam went through and he had everything easy in is life.
He is stubborn but you can’t say him being with Garam to begin with is a change he is willing to do and is a sacrifice he is willing to do. It’s like you’re completely erasing his character development, again I’m not a fan of his personality but if he were to change completely in one chapter without development it wouldn’t be realistic.

he does understand he hurt him and when he was about to actually talk with him Garam just disappeared…
Also I’m sorry but the situation with the rings was so ??? Like I don’t understand how can one justify it , my jaw dropped to the floor.
trauma doesn’t justify any behaviour.

It’s either both of them change for each other or break up

I feel like you’re completely blinded by hatred, the situation is really immature and both sides are at fault here.
gr with the rings and running away without talking, and jh outing them and buying an apartment without him knowing and literally losing all of his money (i was bothered by how garam just brushed it off)
They need to talk about everything asap

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Last we saw, Jaehyuk's parents all but disowned him when they found out he was dating Garam. So, he's not rich anymore. That's why he's been taking up modeling gigs to pay the bills. Which Garam also disagrees with.

yay another garam defender

let's be real, that is nothing compared to what garam went through and garam never asked for all that , they could have just been a normal couple, but he has to make it extra get a house , use up all his parents money because of which garam got outed to his parents, and garam had to get an earful from jayheok's parents which he didn't deserve

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He definitely should've talked to Garam more, but he didn't do those things for nothing. He got the apartment because Garam wanted to move out of the dorms and was lacking in funds to support his school work. He wouldn't have accepted Jaehyuk's help, so he lied that it was a friend's place. Jaehyuk started working diligently at his parent's restaurant again in order to get in their good graces. I doubt he ever predicted that any of that would've hurt Garam. Just like Garam never would've predicted going to his friend's party would result in his ex scarring Jaehyuk's face. Unfortunate things happen, but I didn't read any ill intentions on Garam or Jaehyuk's sides.

I'm not saying Jaehyuk is perfect, but he's not a monster either. He's been trying very hard to fight for a relationship where only 1 person is giving it their all. That can be really emotionally draining and lonely, so his frustration is valid. Garam has been treating this like a brief love affair that is sure to end someday--that stems from his trauma, which is also valid, but it's further destabilizing the relationship. At the end of the day, the person holding the keys determines if we keep the car running. That person is Garam, and he's choosing to leave the car in park. Garam is the problem in this moment but not the villain. I'd argue they both deserve equal parts grace and criticism.

valid points, but I think jayheok is bit too insensitive when it comes to garam's past, I don't think he has spent enough time understanding what means to be gay and outed as a kid in school and watching your parents being disappointed in you, also I don't think garam treated this relationship as brief , because he got a ring for his bf, but unfortunately he was hit with brick of reality when he met jayheok's parents and this is where he realized how fragile gay relationships are and he recalled his past, yes jayheok has been faithful but does it matter when there is a fear you can't get over that nothing lasts forever, That's why I think he should go to therapy and learn POV of garam and calm down , like why is he always shouting at garam .

Totally agree about the therapy. And to communicate ffs! They both have soul searching to do, and clearly this relationship is biting off more than it can chew rn.

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EXACTLY ITS NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR J-HOES ACTIONS

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I get your point, but couldn't garam at least say a word? That's what's pissing most of the readers off, he could've just broken up. I got stood up just like this by my first love so I know the pain, I would've preferred if he just told me he wants to break up, but no, he didn't talk, not a single word, not even a breath of concern and that's what hurts the most. Jaehyuk is whiny, bratty and angry, but you can't deny that he did his best to love garam, he was a jerk but not a monster, but with what garam did, honestly he could be considered worse. Both of them deserve better, or deserve no one at all cause both of them are immature af.

Okay, I get your Point and I am sorry about your first love , that was a jerk move from that guy, you deserve better.
but I can not agree with you about garam being worse then Jayheok let's not forget about forced sex and also jayheok being so insensitive in the start, yes he changed and guess what garam knows that , that's why he gave him a chance to be his boyfriend, but jayheok doesn't take garam's trauma seriously yes he punished his ex boyfriend but that will still not erase the trauma of getting beaten by your ex's parents and also he thinks his mom is sick because of him( because his mom started drinking because of his outing in School of being gay), all this will not vanish just because jayheok came into his life, forcing garam to come out in front of everyone just because he doesn't care what happens later is just plain selfish and coming to 6 hours of call he was on hold for , I don't think he did that intentionally, if jayheok can shout when he is hurt then garam can behave different way as well , just because he reacted differently then jayheok doesn't mean he wasn't hurt.Garam deserves some grace as well.