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Chiaki@naragathilwithYama March 9, 2015 4:31 pm

I'm from a conserative family. I don't hate being a female, but I do despise being a woman in my family from time to time. One of the reasons why I hate being a female in my household, with loads of cultural expectations of adnorining myself and behaving gracefully and elgantly like a lady, is when i'm having my period. The older generation don't stop for a moment before reminding me that I have a period, therfore I can't touch, sit, or walk on specific things or places in my house. I'm forced to take shower just for the sake of cleansing my body that was dirtied by my period. My mother would tell me, not to touch washed clothes or sit on her bed in fear of it diriting her things. Then my aunt, who watches her tv serial from my laptop wouldn't touch the mousepad and touchscreen, or sit in the same chair I've been sitting, telling that 'I'm fasting". My other aunt would remind me to not to let her son sit or sleep in bed, while I'm babysitting. When he falls asleep in my bed, she would make wash him, his clothes, and even the bed sheets he later sleeps on with her her and her husband. My other aunt grows spices and herbs in the summer. She also remind me to never touch the plants when I'm mentrating. When I asked why annoyed, she asked suprised as if I declared 2+2=3, "Don't you know, herbs will go bad?" I could go on forever. Then there's lastly my brother. While he doesn't consider period on the same level as them, he still act like period as a infectious disease that must dealt with carefully, because of tramuating experience. Accidently he was face to face with a girl's menstraul blood wetted bottom. Because of this, I seriously can't wait till until I live alone. However, with all this. I have to admit that my family loves and treasures me a lot. My mother would cook healthy meals to restor my blood loss. Do you have similar experiences? How does your family react when you're on your period? How do you feel about it? Please share below on the comments?

    tokidoki March 9, 2015 4:43 pm

    Never had that experience, but it sounds like they are trying to make you ashamed of being female, or of having normal bodily functions, which is just plain wrong. All the females in your family have gone through the same thing, so it is hypocritical of them to teach those things, but they obviously must have been shamed themselves for them to have that kind of attitude. You will have your period for most of your life unless you have a hysterectomy (and then you can't have children if that's what you want) Don't allow them to make you feel lesser just because you are female.

    Blue March 9, 2015 4:49 pm

    It's cultural. Some cultures believe that during that time women will dirty or ruin things they come into contact with. I'm an American (you can tell by the flag) and was raised as such so it was never treated that way in my family. We bathe/shower each day/every other day in my family anyways so that has never been a problem.

    I Thot You Was a Toad March 9, 2015 5:57 pm
    Never had that experience, but it sounds like they are trying to make you ashamed of being female, or of having normal bodily functions, which is just plain wrong. All the females in your family have gone throu... tokidoki

    I like this reply so much. Spot on with the insight.

    I Thot You Was a Toad March 9, 2015 6:10 pm

    I want to validate what Tokidoki has said, but take it a bit further. Because when a woman is being indoctrinated by the other women in her family and circle of "friends/frenemies" to feel lesser and ashamed for being a woman, it also comes with the other baggage that she is supposed to put up and shut up about horrible behaviour from others. The menses business is just an excuse. You are being "put in your place" and whether you choose to accept this is going to require effort, sacrifice and vigilance from you, because if you rebel and challenge them—even with something as simple and innocuous as demanding they provide empirical evidence for their superstitions—you know they will try to suppress you. The only way you will be liberated from this is to find your own autonomy.

    tokidoki March 9, 2015 6:32 pm
    I like this reply so much. Spot on with the insight. I Thot You Was a Toad

    Thanks, I hate being told that something that is a natural body function is something to be ashamed of. It is like saying the need to breathe is wrong, or something. Women need to break free from such things, even if it is a cultural thing, as some cultures love to subjugate women, and "keep them feeling lesser". I believe all people are equal, men, women, different races/religions, sexual orientation - etc. If we continue to discriminate, we are no better than ... well, I don't know what, but it just shows that humanity cannot grow up.

    Morcheeba March 9, 2015 8:56 pm

    Uwah that sounds like our northern regions... well it's all superstitions (like that jars with preserved food will explode when a menstruating woman goes near them -> hell yeah, let's play "Carrie" in the storage.. or that food will go bad when a menstruating woman preserves it -> yo, that was my first try cooking)
    Just remember that society decided to rid women of their "hysteria" by removing their uterus in the late 17th century (and they stubbornly kept at it until 1910 in some countries even farther)
    The common root of all these superstitions and old beliefs are simply a deeprooted fear of the female body. There are a lot of things one can complain about when I'm having my period (mood-swings for instance) - but I'm not spreading any miasma. It's not that bad, yet.

    Anonymous March 9, 2015 9:22 pm

    Your story has really caught my attention because my field of studies focuses on religious movements, sects and so on. Your "story" isn't new to me as I have read before several booklets in reply to this practice which is spreading according to the authors I am referring to, in a group formed exclusively by women, upholding some very uncommon esoteric beliefs. I won't name the group because it has its own defenders and I haven't been able to investigate this matter first-hand (it is just hearsay until now).
    However, to avoid any confusion I am not saying that your family belongs to this group (especially that to my knowledge it hasn't spread outside its country of origin). Furthermore, there is no need to shift the discussion to certain societies or cultures.
    I just thought of providing an example which has come to my knowledge based on your request.
    The attitudes you are describing emanate as you are surely aware of from a particular group's (any given group) system of beliefs. Since almost ancient times, we women have been prejudiced and discriminated against because of our anatomy. Even in the saga of Adam and Eve, we women are to be blamed for the original sin. Why are things so then?
    In matter of fact, system of beliefs are created by society, they are the reflection of its social structure which is still patriarchal in so many parts of the world. Some families who emigrate to the West succeed in adopting the values of the recipient society whether in Canada, USA, France, Sweden etc. and some don't. For western countries and governments, this is a major dilemma. Of course, the freedom of creed is to be universally respected and upheld (freedom and respect for Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, agnostics and atheists alike under the banner of a common ideal and citizenship). This is not the problem ... the real problem is reconciling the system of beliefs imported from the country a person originates and the values of the recipient society.
    Some families fail to operate this reconciliation for so many reasons: the language barrier, the fact that they didn't go through a modern educational system etc.
    It is the interaction between the old system of beliefs and the values of the modern society which leads to revolutionizing the former. The interaction shouldn't be limited to the physical aspect of progress (like owning a laptop, or operating some key strokes on the keyboard) but it should go straight to the system of beliefs itself.
    Without being impudent, but the fact remains that your family hasn't started this interaction, this reconciliation process. The women in it treat you the same way they have been treated. It is not an individual hardship but a collective one. Unfortunately by the force of habit, it has been treated by so many women as something normal (this is the resignation process), and while it is not in your hands to change the past and probably much less the present, you can certainly change the future, your future by breaking free from this cycle and when the time comes, providing a better environment for your offspring.

    Anonymous March 9, 2015 10:29 pm

    My mom is from an Asian country (I won't specify where), but she lived with similar problems as you. It really is cultural. I think every woman who lived in my mom's country (or at least her region of the country) dealt with this. When on the period, a woman can't touch certain things or go to certain areas of the house. My mom had to eat separately from her family and wash up in a different washing station. The list could go on. It sounds frustrating, and luckily my mom hasn't placed a lot of those restrictions on me. All I can tell you is that you just need to get through this time while you live with your family. When you move out, live how you want to. I don't think you would be disrespecting your family or loving them any less if you did that. There's nothing wrong with the way you feel!

    Okame March 9, 2015 10:45 pm

    I have no idea what kind of cultural is this....weird!

    Chiaki@naragathilwithYama March 10, 2015 12:16 am

    My family is of Sri Lankan Hindu origin. Sri Lanka is an Asian country that is appears like a tiny dot below India in the map. My terms may be not be accurate as I just translated cultural terms from my language Tamil and because of limted knowledge of my culture living in Canada. I'll use the term family to describe all my mom's siblings' families, mostly the older genertions and not my cousins.
    As many of you said, my family memebrs were also raised like that. I can't draw a certain conclusion that my family consider females as being subordinate to men. While they believe all should maintain education, independence, and monogamy, they have many gender roles. Last time, my little cousin I mentioned babysitting would play imaginary cooking. His parents tell him that cooking isn't for guys.
    The word MOI? used to describe 'a lost cause' of how your mom thinks of you, is how my family members think of me. My mom doesn't ask me to cook meals, and fasting. My uncle is surprised everytime he sees me not wearing earrings. Since I have long hair, it's easier for a lazy one like me to put a tight bun and leave home. In my families' times, and still perhaps now different caste members dressed differently. The female of the Kuravar caste (the untouchable caste, I believe are usually gypsies or hunters) called kurathi are said to wear buns unlike how my families braid their hair. When I leave home with a bun there are questioned looks questioning me "Are you a kurathi or not?"
    My mom yells and blames me that Lakshmi (goddess of wealth) wouldn't stay in a house that have the people who do not dress 'properly.'
    Just yesterday, I was wearing a scarf wrapped around my head which almost looked like hijab. Then again, my mom told me not to embarass her in front of others as my uncle kept asking as a joke "Are you going to join ISIS?"
    My cousins who pretty much spend 3/4 of their lives in Canada, do not have the same views as them and therefore do not question me in the same way as them.
    As a result of this, I struggle to live with the western and eastern beliefs and my culture's beliefs. My families do not speak or read english like a fluent person. As a result, they do not suck in the western beliefs and values, and only suck in the culture that is embodied to a lesser part of the western culture.

    I sometimes find my self questioning me if I'm being too much of ethnocentric (one's culture culture as the most natural or superior way of understanding the world) or cultural relativistic (the idea that all norms, beliefs, and values are dependent on their cultural context, and should be treated as such.)
    Can there be abalance between all this?
    I love my family a lot, and their love for me is unquestionable even in the angriest moments.
    However, I wish I can live alone without expectations that I cannot ahere to being forced upon me.
    Thank you for all your comments. I'm still surprised that some never had the same experience as me.

    I Thot You Was a Toad March 10, 2015 1:00 am
    My family is of Sri Lankan Hindu origin. Sri Lanka is an Asian country that is appears like a tiny dot below India in the map. My terms may be not be accurate as I just translated cultural terms from my langua... Chiaki@naragathilwithYama

    If you are certain of your family's love and support of you, then of course you can find a balance. A sense of humour is essential for this—some jokes to your mom about how, in pluralistic Canada, Lakshmi is more concerned about your wages than your hairdo, for example. But jokes will only hold off the cultural taboos so long. If you don't want to drown in parental fear, autonomy is the ways and means: your own wages, your own place to live (be it ever so humble), your own circle of friends who have nothing to do with your family, a phone with a good voicemail service.

    Anonymous March 10, 2015 5:47 am
    My family is of Sri Lankan Hindu origin. Sri Lanka is an Asian country that is appears like a tiny dot below India in the map. My terms may be not be accurate as I just translated cultural terms from my langua... Chiaki@naragathilwithYama

    "Can there be a balance between all this?"
    Yes there can if the parties concerned are willing to undertake such a task, to do the effort. Your family, the appropriate term here would be "extended family" which includes all your parents' kins and yours, is comprised of several generations [your parents, siblings and yourself can be called a "nucleus family"]. Sometimes, and in so many cases, it is difficult for the older ones to assimilate the values of the recipient society due to the barriers I've mentioned before (language, education etc.). It is not the same with the younger generations who have profited from a modern education system, I am sure that in many cases the descendants of immigrant families have been able to produce a "syncretic culture" which reconcile both aspects of the society of origin and the recipient one.

    The key to do this is to separate between the metaphysical aspect of the system of beliefs and its social (and in some cases economic and political) implications. The term "metaphysical" includes the beliefs tantamount to what deity(ies)/ God to worship, one's vision of what afterlife might be, religious ceremonies, burial ceremony etc. All of these are private issues/ concerns/ choices, and the problem doesn't lay there. The dysfunctional aspect lays within the social implications of that system of beliefs (I used the term dysfunctional to signify the result of its colliding with the values of another society). In your case, your "extended family" is "unconsciously" (?) reproducing the social implications of that system which resulted in a gender-based discrimination.
    To answer finally your question, I wouldn't personally speak of one culture superior to an another, or a religion to another. The "problem" isn't there, it is within the mechanisms generated by each religion/ culture to assimilate all aspects of modernity. This isn't something which a person can do individually, it needs the involvement of all social actors, and through debate and compromise, such mechanisms are triggered. The core of the system of beliefs remains hence intact and change is brought upon its social, political and economic implications.

Chiaki@naragathilwithYama February 11, 2015 12:39 am

the website's logo or background changed from the christmas themed wallpaper to Nyanko-sensei. I just relized it when I noticed that my mangago tab had unfamiliar picture in it. I miss the button that sprinkles snowflakes over the webpage when I click on it.

    .•♛ Empress .Yaoi. ♛•. February 11, 2015 12:54 am

    Yea same here xD
    Also I thought that if I click the mochi icon something would pop out like the snowflakes ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
    Ohh well I'll wait for December it might come back hehe

    Morcheeba February 11, 2015 1:03 am

    Maybe they'll let us go for a "easter-egg-hunt" in a few weeks ^^ since we're obviously a bunch of people who're PLENTY happy to find something ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

    Anonymous February 11, 2015 1:59 am

    I just noticed that too i love Natsume Yuujinchou so much! Its one of my top favorite mangas/animes ☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆

    I Thot You Was a Toad February 11, 2015 2:37 am
    Yea same here xDAlso I thought that if I click the mochi icon something would pop out like the snowflakes ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶Ohh well I'll wait for December it might come back hehe .•♛ Empress .Yaoi. ♛•.

    Something that pops out of a living mochi creature, when you poke it, and scatters across the page?

Chiaki@naragathilwithYama January 26, 2015 5:55 pm

I'm not if this is a side-story or something. It's a yaoi manga, and it appeared to have multiple couples or side-story. There were sex scenes. This side-story focuses on a couple who've been reunited after 5 or some years.
I think the uke or seme (most likely) was from an upper-class or a yakuza family. The seme's family or the uke's family tells the uke to not to involve himself with the seme. The uke didn't seem to be intimidated or scared by them.
I think that was part of the reason why they were separated. I think they meet each other, or one of them see the other one in a public place (my memory says a train station).
The seme had darker hair than the uke, and was of smaller built than the uke (i think). He struck me as the seme in the relationship. The uke is a tall, pale long-haired man and struck me as the seme. I think he was a gigolo, playboy, or slept with a lot of guys.
There was this once scene, I remember. This is after they are reunited. The seme hugs the uke out of happiness after sex or something. The uke loves the seme, but acts like the seme was just a sex-friend. the uke, then says something like 'do you think, you're the only guy I've had in the past 5 years.' The seme gets really jealous but do not hurt the uke, and leaves the room frustrated. The uke is really surprised. Then the seme comes back to the room, and again embraces the uke and says that he'll kill whoever the uke slept with in the five years if he comes across them.
This manga was similar to the mangaka Amasaki Yoshimi, creator of Acid Flower and Takaramono wa Hako no Naka. The uke in Takaramono wa Hako no Naka looked very similar to the seme in the manga I'm looking for.

Chiaki@naragathilwithYama January 21, 2015 3:55 am

I'm not if this is a side-story or something. It's a yaoi manga, and it appeared to have multiple couples or side-story. There were sex scenes. This side-story focuses on a couple who've been reunited after 5 or some years.
I think the uke or seme (most likely) was from an upper-class or a yakuza family. The seme's family or the uke's family tells the uke to not to involve himself with the seme. The uke didn't seem to be intimidated or scared by them.
I think that was part of the reason why they were separated. I think they meet each other, or one of them see the other one in a public place (my memory says a train station).
The seme had darker hair than the uke, and was of smaller built than the uke (i think). He struck me as the seme in the relationship. The uke is a tall, pale long-haired man and struck me as the seme. I think he was a gigolo, playboy, or slept with a lot of guys.
There was this once scene, I remember. This is after they are reunited. The seme hugs the uke out of happiness after sex or something. The uke loves the seme, but acts like the seme was just a sex-friend. the uke, then says something like 'do you think, you're the only guy I've had in the past 5 years.' The seme gets really jealous but do not hurt the uke, and leaves the room frustrated. The uke is really surprised. Then the seme comes back to the room, and again embraces the uke and says that he'll kill whoever the uke slept with in the five years if he comes across them.
This manga was similar to the mangaka Amasaki Yoshimi, creator of Acid Flower and Takaramono wa Hako no Naka. The uke in Takaramono wa Hako no Naka looked very similar to the seme in the manga I'm looking for.

Chiaki@naragathilwithYama January 18, 2015 3:08 am

I'm not if this a side-story or something. It's a yaoi manga, and it appeared to have multiple couples or side-story. This side-story focuses on a couple who've been reunited after 5 years. I think the uke or seme (most likely) was from an upper-class or a yakuza family. The seme's family or the uke's family tells the uke to not to involve with the seme.
I think that was part of the reason why they were separated. The uke is a tall, long-haired man who I thought was the seme. I think he was a gigolo or a playboy. The seme had darker and I thought he was the uke. There was this once scene, I remember. This is after they are reunited. The seme hugs the uke out of happiness after sex or something. The uke loves the seme, but acts like the seme was just a sex-friend. the uke, then says something like 'do you think, you're the only guy I've had in the past 5 years.' The seme gets really jealous but do not hurt the uke, and leaves the room frustrated. The uke is really suprised. Then the seme comes back to the room, and again embraces the uke and says that he'll kill whoever the uke slept with in the five years if he comes across them.
the art looks similar to Takaramono wa Hako no Naka.

Chiaki@naragathilwithYama January 18, 2015 12:46 am

I'm not if this a side-story or something. It's a yaoi manga, and it appeared to have multiple couples or side-story. This side-story focuses on a couple who've been reunited after 5 years.
I think the uke or seme (most likely) was from an upper-class or a yakuza family. The seme's family or the uke's family tells the uke to not to involve with the seme.
I think that was part of the reason why they were separated. The uke is a tall, long-haired man who I thought was the seme. I think he was a gigolo or a playboy. The seme had darker and I thought he was the uke.
There was this once scene, I remember. This is after they are reunited. The seme hugs the uke out of happiness after sex or something. The uke loves the seme, but acts like the seme was just a sex-friend. the uke, then says something like 'do you think, you're the only guy I've had in the past 5 years.' The seme gets really jealous but do not hurt the uke, and leaves the room frustrated. The uke is really suprised. Then the seme comes back to the room, and again embraces the uke and says that he'll kill whoever the uke slept with in the five years if he comes across them.

Chiaki@naragathilwithYama January 17, 2015 9:28 pm

I'm not if this a side-story or something. It's a yaoi manga, and it appeared to have multiple couples or side-story. This side-story focuses on a couple who've been reunited after 5 years. I think the uke or seme (most likely) was from an upper-class or a yakuza family. The seme's family or the uke's family tells the uke to not to involve with the seme.
I think that was part of the reason why they were separated. The uke is a tall, long-haired man who I thought was the seme. I think he was a gigolo or a playboy. The seme had darker and I thought he was the uke. There was this once scene, I remember. This is after they are reunited. The seme hugs the uke out of happiness after sex or something. The uke loves the seme, but acts like the seme was just a sex-friend. the uke, then says something like 'do you think, you're the only guy I've had in the past 5 years.' The seme gets really jealous but do not hurt the uke, and leaves the room frustrated. The uke is really suprised. Then the seme comes back to the room, and again embraces the uke and says that he'll kill whoever the uke slept with in the five years if he comes across them.

Chiaki@naragathilwithYama October 20, 2014 12:54 am

I am looking for a manga that explore or depicts LGBT issues or just lifestyle. I already read IS, Two Weddings and a Funeral manhwa, Claudine, Wandering Son, and Bokura no Hentai, and What did you eat yesterday which does not deals with issues or shows romance development like the mangas listed above, just shows their everyday lifestyle.

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