I'm not speaking about the Manga that include yaoi, but rather the actions of the people who read them. Do you find the fandom to be usually enjoyable or share like views, and find it quite gross? Coming from my point of view, it's beyond tragic and disgusting to see usually younger girls fetishizing gay males for their own desires and sexual needs. Usually overlooking the rapey themes, and romanticizing things that are quite illegal and lead to unhealthy relationships. And also, how do some of ya'll think it's cute to text like "uwu, this seme is so ლ(´ڡ`ლ) doki doki. I can't wait for the underaged uke to get fuckedヾ(☆▽☆)I luv gay sex!1!1!" (I've actually seen comments like this)
YA'LL CHILL, DON'T FEEL ATTACKED BECAUSE I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION. smh
It's cool it you read yaoi manga, go right ahead. This is rather a thread on how you feel about your peers and their actions. I rather so pointed out the yaoi extremists who tend to be annoying and bitter when your opinion doesn't line with theirs. I stated in my personal opinion on how I often see the community perceived and the problem I have with it. You are entitled to your own ideas and I'm not here to bash you for that, so please do the same. I just wanted to know if you enjoyed the fandom usually or did not. Sorry if you took it wrong, and saw I didn't properly explain myself before.
Uhhh, well. Each to their own I say. I have the ability to separate real life from fantasy. I know right from wrong. Although I don't read the hardcore rape stuff (I just can't, it's scary) I do read shounen ai and soft yaoi (e.g. isaku natsume has really good fluffy stories)
I Make it a point to not judge other people's tastes (not saying you are!) But if you don't like, don't watch. Comments do to get a bit cringe, yes. Generally speaking, i find the Fandom to be more open minded than most people I meet in real life.
I know people are gross, including you. Doesn't help that straight girls still like to fetishize gay men smh Pleasestopthot
I get it, but what is this post going to solve? We are all loathsome in some way or another, and this post, like all the others pertaining to this issue, will not stop people. Anyways, I hope you find relief.
I get it, but what is this post going to solve? We are all loathsome in some way or another, and this post, like all the others pertaining to this issue, will not stop people.Anyways, I hope you find relief. @Anon
I wasn't trying to stop people? My caption wasn't "STOP ALL FUJOSHI!1!1!!1". I just stated my opinion, just as I was allowing other people do to. People are allowed to have a diverse group of opinions.
"Coming from my point of view, it's beyond tragic and disgusting to see...girls...desires and sexual needs."What it all boils down to. How much hentai have you read? Have you read the comments? @Anonymous
I have a problem with hentai as well, and that was not what I was adressing in this question. Again its my point of view
I completely agree...'course, I don't fetishize "things that are quite illegal and lead to unhealthy relationships"; I tend to avoid such comics. So yes, I find the general fandom "quite gross".
I wasn't trying to stop people? My caption wasn't "STOP ALL FUJOSHI!1!1!!1". I just stated my opinion, just as I was allowing other people do to. People are allowed to have a diverse group of opinions. Pleasestopthot
Huh. Interesting. A post that will get buried along with all the others. I guess your voice was heard? Is the purpose to shame or to have a discussion?
Huh. Interesting.A post that will get buried along with all the others.I guess your voice was heard? Is the purpose to shame or to have a discussion? @Anon
It was rather to see the diversity in the community. But you know, I'm just a post buried in all the others. Cuz' you know, my opinion is only to shame!1!1
I completely agree...'course, I don't fetishize "things that are quite illegal and lead to unhealthy relationships"; I tend to avoid such comics. So yes, I find the general fandom "quite gross". Faux Pas
I'm completely cool with people with the mind set that you lead on. I'm just speaking more so on what I've seen from the yaoi extremist who tend to be so god forbid annoying
I'm completely cool with people with the mind set that you lead on. I'm just speaking more so on what I've seen from the yaoi extremist who tend to be so god forbid annoying Pleasestopthot
honestly i agree with u. for once i kinda want to be able to read a story about a gay relationship without ppl in the comments screaming about 'semes and ukes' like no real gay relationship is that simple and tropey. fetizing gay people is basically u treating them as objects and not actual people. u can read gay romance without having to fetize lgbt people and its doing the opposite of 'being accepting' because ur still not treating us like real people. do u ever hear someone speaking about straight relationships the same way 'yaoi fangirls' talk about gay relationships? our relationships are for us. not u. and especially about the rapey/unhealthy relationship aspects that the 'fangirls' squeal and romantize makes me super uncomfortable and the fact theyre treating this stuff like its okay and the fact that its becoming popular with barely anyone pointing it out (coughs coughs k*lling st*lking ect) makes me not want to be reading this stuff. i hate it when i begin reading something that starts off cute but then it gets rapey ect and im unable to read it anymore. (dont get me started on pedophilia) the manga/manhwa that i find that are actually wholesome and healthy i cherish and i wish those get more attention rather than the problematic and bad ones so that the ""tropes""" would just die because if anything the popularity is encouraging the fact that its okay to be romanticizing things like that and u can argue its fiction all u want but to some people who see this stuff and see that people think its okay and obsess over it will give them the idea that treating/doing these things to others is an accepted thing and they get wrong justification (idk if any of this made sense i tend to ramble without knowing how to word things)
honestly i agree with u. for once i kinda want to be able to read a story about a gay relationship without ppl in the comments screaming about 'semes and ukes' like no real gay relationship is that simple and t... @anon
RT. (You worded this very well, and I completely understood it)
I too feel that those who fetishize rape and overlook serious flaws in yaoi mangas are gross and was not trying to defend my views because they were not seemingly aligned with yours. I guess my point is that these kinds of people surround us, and despite best efforts, we cannot change how gross humankind essentially is. I was not trying to be bitter, just pointing out something bluntly. Have a nice day.
Some people always go around thinking only straight girls read yaoi. Sigh generalization is such a bad habit. =3= Pacgirl
Just like how fujoshis tend to generalize gay males? I stated that from what I've usually seen. I never said that it was 100%. Status also show that a large percentage of people who read yaoi are heterosexual females. Look it up if you need proof
Pleasestopthot, I belive that you opinion is right and wrong, people should be able to say what they want to say without consequence unless they are saying something like what you mentioned previously, ( thing along the lines of "fuck me dude who is about to fuck a minor, DADDY") ( something absurd). But my overall opinion is that as long as your not hurting anyone or offending anyone I would say carry on screaming at fake people to fuck. But also remember the grown adults who enjoy yaoi that take pride in reading it, they shouldn't stop because of one 13yo screaming "fuck me daddy". (Also take into account the active members in the yaoi community that analyze and have a opinion worth listening to).
Pleasestopthot, I belive that you opinion is right and wrong, people should be able to say what they want to say without consequence unless they are saying something like what you mentioned previously, ( thing ... QuanTaun
I too feel that those who fetishize rape and overlook serious flaws in yaoi mangas are gross and was not trying to defend my views because they were not seemingly aligned with yours. I guess my point is that th... @Anon
This thread was just made to rather point out that such things do go on in the community, regardless if it changes or not. But it is not impossible to relize what's wrong within this tiny yaoi fandom and work to change it, seeing as it not meant to be humankind nature. Yes, the population is quite unhuman and morally wrong, but that wasn't the point of my question. I hope you have a nice day also, and thank you for explaining kindly what you though.
lmao me again (the one that went on the long ass rant) @the other anon telling us to "just get over it" like. gee i wish i could but i keeps shoving itself in my face that i cant. the point of talking about these things is that so people can understand where we who have a problem with it are coming from. a lot of people arent aware of how this is affecting others and hopefully we can educate them. if we just left it alone and "just let it go" then the behavior will never stop. its not a matter of critizing people but just letting them know "hey some of this stuff ur doing is not the best."
Pleasestopthot, I belive that you opinion is right and wrong, people should be able to say what they want to say without consequence unless they are saying something like what you mentioned previously, ( thing ... QuanTaun
In the bottom of the thread I stated that my opinion above was only geared at those who do seemingly fetish real gay men because they can't find the difference between books and real life. It can cause harm, seeing as gay males have a come out to say that fangirls have often harassed them and caused them to be generalized because of 13yr Olds telling them to fuck. There is an amazing group of adults who properly analyze the storyline and genuinely read it for the connection and not always the smut. I'm 100% with people reading yaoi, but if it's to the point that you can't look in the comment section without some obsence naughty remark. Which is were I do tend to get annoyed, but I'm not the person to scream at them lmao. I do agree with points of your opinion, and I thank you for expressing it kindly!
lmao me again (the one that went on the long ass rant) @the other anon telling us to "just get over it" like. gee i wish i could but i keeps shoving itself in my face that i cant. the point of talking about the... @anon
Yes, it's just a though that needs to be known. That such behaviors do harm the gay community more negatively than they probably previously though. I've already gotten shit for my opinion, and it quite sad that people tend to shut those out who try to differentiate.
Just like how fujoshis tend to generalize gay males? I stated that from what I've usually seen. I never said that it was 100%. Status also show that a large percentage of people who read yaoi are heterosexual f... Pleasestopthot
Yes I am aware of that. XD Don't worry I was just teasing you since you reminded me of a cetain anon. Anyway on a serious note. In terms of yaoi I've read hentai and yuri and thres always the issue of a small group of people fetishizing human romance. I know you didn't want to address it but the simularisties (such as the type of comments you speak of) are hard to ignore. In my opinion I don't care as strongly about those specific comments, they are cringy but I care about the read more.
It bothers me when I'm reading a shounen ai that's fairly (not entirely but more than most others) innocent but then I go into the comment section and you'd think it was a twisted yaoi Harada doujin (it's not). Comments wanting the guy to get raped to "spice" (their words) it up, wanting him to be paired with a stranger twice his age over his same age best friend who he is actually in love with, and then the foursome crowd who can't handle seeing a group of friends without wanting them all to fuck. I wish they would stop. I just take comfort knowing the author would never make the comic like that. It's got its problems but it's not that messed up and hopefully it never will be.
It bothers me when I'm reading a shounen ai that's fairly (not entirely but more than most others) innocent but then I go into the comment section and you'd think it was a twisted yaoi Harada doujin (it's not).... @Anonymous
Yeah, I definitely agree. I do enjoy shounen-ai and it's very disheartening to see amount of comments it tends to get which only follow the manga for some hope of sexual deviance.
Yes I am aware of that. XD Don't worry I was just teasing you since you reminded me of a cetain anon. Anyway on a serious note. In terms of yaoi I've read hentai and yuri and thres always the issue of a small... Pacgirl
Oh lmao, sorry if I got too defensive. I've gotten shit for my opinion so much and it's to the point it's impossible to remain being civil lmao. I do agree though, some form of fetishizing is going in in nearly every community, it's just I adressed yaoi seeing that it does tend to be more severe than yuri and hentai (they do get some nasty, rank ass comments though.) And the community on here does tend to learn towards yaoi on mangago
Oh lmao, sorry if I got too defensive. I've gotten shit for my opinion so much and it's to the point it's impossible to remain being civil lmao. I do agree though, some form of fetishizing is going in in nearly... Pleasestopthot
It's cool. :D Yeah but I also feel like it depends on the website. For example there aren't much yaoi websites that people know about, they exists but simply aren't as popular as mangago. Usually those websites have matured commentary. But since mangago is so popular and easy to find, the younger groups just need to search "yaoi manga" in google and they'll find this. Which I theorize is the reason mangago has typically a younger audience. And if you search yuri manga the first search you get is "mangafox" and then mangago as the fourth option.... (Poor yuri manga so neglected) Hentai manga it's "nhentai" if anyone's wondering. They're harder to find (well yuri is) but yuri is usually mashed together in hentai websites for some reason so I guess that's why there's no apparent yuri site. ;-;
I completely agree...'course, I don't fetishize "things that are quite illegal and lead to unhealthy relationships"; I tend to avoid such comics. So yes, I find the general fandom "quite gross". Faux Pas
uh, aren't YOU the one who used to read shota? wtf? are you back tracking?
honestly i agree with u. for once i kinda want to be able to read a story about a gay relationship without ppl in the comments screaming about 'semes and ukes' like no real gay relationship is that simple and t... @anon
EXACTLY, rape is not funny, I have never read a pedophile type yaoi but Ik they exist, sex is fine but when it gets to the point of sexualizing children and rape, it's too far.
What does that have to do with the question at hand, jm? The shota I read mostly involved adult characters who were simply drawn in a "shota" style, and I didn't read it because I fetishized illegal and unhealthy relationships... They were around the same age, and they weren't in relationships founded on sexual assault and the like >.>
At least use your main account to speak your mind...
honestly i agree with u. for once i kinda want to be able to read a story about a gay relationship without ppl in the comments screaming about 'semes and ukes' like no real gay relationship is that simple and t... @anon
Fetishing (?) any kind of people is not ok regardless of anyone's sexuality. It's the same as any straight guys fetishing women. The same as any straight women fetishing guys. It doesn't happen only to gay communities.
Some fans are just immature, and cannot differentiate between reality and imagination. This kind of people will always exist, regardless of whatever kind of genre they are fans of.
I understand that some stuff (eg. rapey stuff) are not for everyone. It's not exclusively happen in yaoi community. It happen in straight (?) community too. There's a reason why hentai exists. This stuff also common in shoujo mangas too, even in straight romance novels.
One user once mentioned that rape fantasy happens because of the fantasy of wanting someone to want you so much that they force themselves onto you is appealing, especially to someone who has low self esteem and probably has never been desired by someone they are attracted to. I can accept this kind of explanation, since i know it's possible.
My point is all of what you mentioned also happen other types of genres too, not exclusively occured in yaoi. Sorry for rambling. I find it difficult to accept that only gays feel they are victimised because of this issue.
Fetishing (?) any kind of people is not ok regardless of anyone's sexuality. It's the same as any straight guys fetishing women. The same as any straight women fetishing guys. It doesn't happen only to gay comm... @Anonnn
Honey, read what everyone has said before bringing up a topic that has already been answered
Yaoi is basically gay porn made for woman and EVERY porn fetishize something, because porn is about that, about fetishize. Hentai, for example, fetishize woman/girl. As a woman of course I feel bad when woman are treated like object by guys in manga, so what do I do? I don't read and ignore, simple as that. And please that's not all fujoshi who likes rape stuff so stop saying everyone is like that, all right?
Oh lmao, sorry if I got too defensive. I've gotten shit for my opinion so much and it's to the point it's impossible to remain being civil lmao. I do agree though, some form of fetishizing is going in in nearly... Pleasestopthot
I think because most hentai and porn websites have stricter registration (?). Most are paid websites, so it's unlikely that immature brats are watching/reading and commenting.
Tho I don't agree that fetish in yaoi is more severe. I think that it is equally severe in yuri and hentai
What does that have to do with the question at hand, jm? The shota I read mostly involved adult characters who were simply drawn in a "shota" style, and I didn't read it because I fetishized illegal and unhealt... Faux Pas
lmao what. you're definitely back tracking. and if you didnt know, if they're in hs, they're illegal, therefore you're reading shit with underaged kids fucking. a while ago you were just preaching how you don't like to read stuff like that... smh. also pleasestophot said they didn't like it when people comment stupid shit like how theres no fucking and they want to see it, and you agreed that it was stupid. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that you've probably been one of those people that ship people in non yaoi books and was disappointed there was no sex scene in a story.
and also, this IS my main account. just because i don't put shit in my reading list doesn't make me anymore fake. :)
Yaoi is basically gay porn made for woman and EVERY porn fetishize something, because porn is about that, about fetishize. Hentai, for example, fetishize woman/girl. As a woman of course I feel bad when woman a... MyUsername
lmao what. you're definitely back tracking. and if you didnt know, if they're in hs, they're illegal, therefore you're reading shit with underaged kids fucking. a while ago you were just preaching how you don't... narumaki
I said most of them they were adults, not frickin' high schoolers. I /do/ ship people in "non yaoi" books, regardless of there genders or sexualities. Irrelevant much? And I don't read non-yaoi books for sex scenes. I read them for the frickin' plot. Not everyone's a horny teen.
Honestly, if i want a good laugh, i'll read those comments. Otherwise, i just ignore them. People are annoying, especially immature middle school kids. So, i suggest, instead of tainting your eyes and brain with whatever in the comment section, just skip them entirely. There's no need to waste your time and energy doing something so fruitless
Fetishing (?) any kind of people is not ok regardless of anyone's sexuality. It's the same as any straight guys fetishing women. The same as any straight women fetishing guys. It doesn't happen only to gay comm... @Anonnn
did i ever say it didnt happen in other communities?? i am fully aware it doesnt just happen to gays. im trying to say that its not okay in any context to situation whatsoever and many people are ignoring the issue and some have the mentality that things like that are okay because theyre gay. i agree with u wholeheartedly but dont take words out of my mouth saying that im saying this only happens to gay people exclusively bc it doesnt. i was just centralizing the point bc that is what the discussion was about. why cant i complain about an issue that affect me personally (a gay guy) without someone going "well it doesnt just happen to u" because ur just shutting out something that i wanted to point out that affects me. i understand people using some of these things as a coping mechanism but it doesnt mean that its healthy to have this image in ur head. and with the whole "immature" thing see one of my previous comments saying that we need to teach them because some of them are unaware that certain behaviors are not okay so that they at least know and can go on from there.
I stated that I had already received a similar opinion and answered it. Complaining has a different tone and would be more negative, Google the word if needed.
come on guys, can you really n
September 3, 2017 5:32 pm
she's talking about the people who like manga with pedophilia and rape, where the uke is raped by seme but STILL he falls in love with the dude who is supposed to be facing charges for doing so
honestly I personally cannot take rape scenes in most yaoi manga seriously...sometimes the feelings just don't get to me or sometimes the characters aren't likable at all, and since i don't, i still read such manga to see development( most don't have that) but im definitely against it in real life i just dont take it at heart when the characters feel empty to me, though the rape in hidoku shinaide got to me, i still kept reading it because i read comments saying it would get better later
I understand there are people with different fetishes and stuff, ive also seen comments on pedo yaoi manga (most are doujinshi as ive observed and it did feel weird while reading one)saying it is twisted or something along those lines staying neutral and also have seen a few saying they enjoyed it, and i also want you to consider the possibility that they might be the same as me, they dont connect to the characters and dont take it seriously and they are fine as long as it is in a manga, but they also are against such things in reality everybody needs a getaway from this unfair life we all live and I also understand if you don't understand (sorry i dont know how to put it XD English ain't my first language, and the lack of punctuation because im using my phone)
if im not wrong, op is also trying to say that girls who label every other guy as gay,label them with another guy just because they touched each other, and the trend that has since died (i hope so) in yaoi world, "i reallllllyyy want a gay best friend because i looooovveeee gay people and i know that we will be bffs forever!!! because i read and love yaoi!!!!" are disgusting, and yes they are because you don't just want a guy because he's gay, they are humans, they can also murder you for all you care, because they are humans! and sadly a small percentage of these people still exist think about how you would feel as a gay person when someone likes you only because of your sexuality and not for your personalty People who still want a gay best friend simply because he's gay(don't try to hide it by saying you want to support lgbtq everyone can see through that shit now) please stop this bullshit and delete your system32 folder Idk if im right about what youre trying to say so ive also added in my thoughts(￣∇￣")
she's talking about the people who like manga with pedophilia and rape, where the uke is raped by seme but STILL he falls in love with the dude who is supposed to be facing charges for doing sohonestly I person... @come on guys, can you really n
Yeah I get ya. I'm also quite apathetic and I rarely connect with the fictional characters in books, unless the book is good nor do I put myself in a characters shoes. To me sometimes manga is just weird looking humans. (because they're not anatomically correct sometimes especially shota or Loli don't get me started XD) Though rape does get to me sometimes.
I'm not speaking about the Manga that include yaoi, but rather the actions of the people who read them. Do you find the fandom to be usually enjoyable or share like views, and find it quite gross? Coming from my point of view, it's beyond tragic and disgusting to see usually younger girls fetishizing gay males for their own desires and sexual needs. Usually overlooking the rapey themes, and romanticizing things that are quite illegal and lead to unhealthy relationships. And also, how do some of ya'll think it's cute to text like "uwu, this seme is so ლ(´ڡ`ლ) doki doki. I can't wait for the underaged uke to get fuckedヾ(☆▽☆)I luv gay sex!1!1!" (I've actually seen comments like this)
YA'LL CHILL, DON'T FEEL ATTACKED BECAUSE I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION. smh
It's cool it you read yaoi manga, go right ahead. This is rather a thread on how you feel about your peers and their actions. I rather so pointed out the yaoi extremists who tend to be annoying and bitter when your opinion doesn't line with theirs. I stated in my personal opinion on how I often see the community perceived and the problem I have with it. You are entitled to your own ideas and I'm not here to bash you for that, so please do the same. I just wanted to know if you enjoyed the fandom usually or did not. Sorry if you took it wrong, and saw I didn't properly explain myself before.
People are gross.
Get used to it.
I know people are gross, including you. Doesn't help that straight girls still like to fetishize gay men smh
Uhhh, well. Each to their own I say. I have the ability to separate real life from fantasy. I know right from wrong. Although I don't read the hardcore rape stuff (I just can't, it's scary)
I do read shounen ai and soft yaoi (e.g. isaku natsume has really good fluffy stories)
I Make it a point to not judge other people's tastes (not saying you are!) But if you don't like, don't watch. Comments do to get a bit cringe, yes. Generally speaking, i find the Fandom to be more open minded than most people I meet in real life.
you sound like like a certain someone on here
And that is?
I get it, but what is this post going to solve? We are all loathsome in some way or another, and this post, like all the others pertaining to this issue, will not stop people.
Anyways, I hope you find relief.
so if anyone reads and loves shoujo... they're fetishizing straight people...? your logic makes no sense.
Howe dumb are you? Did you not read what I said? Google it hunty
"Coming from my point of view, it's beyond tragic and disgusting to see...girls...desires and sexual needs."
What it all boils down to. How much hentai have you read? Have you read the comments?
I wasn't trying to stop people? My caption wasn't "STOP ALL FUJOSHI!1!1!!1". I just stated my opinion, just as I was allowing other people do to. People are allowed to have a diverse group of opinions.
I have a problem with hentai as well, and that was not what I was adressing in this question. Again its my point of view
hi ヾ(☆▽☆) i am a fujoshi soo i know i am roten but i dont rape
I don't have a problem with people with you But rather just people that try justify rape and abuse in manga
I completely agree...'course, I don't fetishize "things that are quite illegal and lead to unhealthy relationships"; I tend to avoid such comics. So yes, I find the general fandom "quite gross".
Huh. Interesting.
A post that will get buried along with all the others.
I guess your voice was heard? Is the purpose to shame or to have a discussion?
It was rather to see the diversity in the community. But you know, I'm just a post buried in all the others. Cuz' you know, my opinion is only to shame!1!1
I'm completely cool with people with the mind set that you lead on. I'm just speaking more so on what I've seen from the yaoi extremist who tend to be so god forbid annoying
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i dont *like rape ... seriously what did i write there
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honestly i agree with u. for once i kinda want to be able to read a story about a gay relationship without ppl in the comments screaming about 'semes and ukes' like no real gay relationship is that simple and tropey. fetizing gay people is basically u treating them as objects and not actual people. u can read gay romance without having to fetize lgbt people and its doing the opposite of 'being accepting' because ur still not treating us like real people. do u ever hear someone speaking about straight relationships the same way 'yaoi fangirls' talk about gay relationships? our relationships are for us. not u. and especially about the rapey/unhealthy relationship aspects that the 'fangirls' squeal and romantize makes me super uncomfortable and the fact theyre treating this stuff like its okay and the fact that its becoming popular with barely anyone pointing it out (coughs coughs k*lling st*lking ect) makes me not want to be reading this stuff. i hate it when i begin reading something that starts off cute but then it gets rapey ect and im unable to read it anymore. (dont get me started on pedophilia) the manga/manhwa that i find that are actually wholesome and healthy i cherish and i wish those get more attention rather than the problematic and bad ones so that the ""tropes""" would just die because if anything the popularity is encouraging the fact that its okay to be romanticizing things like that and u can argue its fiction all u want but to some people who see this stuff and see that people think its okay and obsess over it will give them the idea that treating/doing these things to others is an accepted thing and they get wrong justification (idk if any of this made sense i tend to ramble without knowing how to word things)
Some people always go around thinking only straight girls read yaoi. Sigh generalization is such a bad habit. =3=
RT. (You worded this very well, and I completely understood it)
I too feel that those who fetishize rape and overlook serious flaws in yaoi mangas are gross and was not trying to defend my views because they were not seemingly aligned with yours. I guess my point is that these kinds of people surround us, and despite best efforts, we cannot change how gross humankind essentially is. I was not trying to be bitter, just pointing out something bluntly. Have a nice day.
Just like how fujoshis tend to generalize gay males? I stated that from what I've usually seen. I never said that it was 100%. Status also show that a large percentage of people who read yaoi are heterosexual females. Look it up if you need proof
Pleasestopthot, I belive that you opinion is right and wrong, people should be able to say what they want to say without consequence unless they are saying something like what you mentioned previously, ( thing along the lines of "fuck me dude who is about to fuck a minor, DADDY") ( something absurd). But my overall opinion is that as long as your not hurting anyone or offending anyone I would say carry on screaming at fake people to fuck. But also remember the grown adults who enjoy yaoi that take pride in reading it, they shouldn't stop because of one 13yo screaming "fuck me daddy". (Also take into account the active members in the yaoi community that analyze and have a opinion worth listening to).
My fuck, I can't type for shit.
This thread was just made to rather point out that such things do go on in the community, regardless if it changes or not. But it is not impossible to relize what's wrong within this tiny yaoi fandom and work to change it, seeing as it not meant to be humankind nature. Yes, the population is quite unhuman and morally wrong, but that wasn't the point of my question. I hope you have a nice day also, and thank you for explaining kindly what you though.
lmao me again (the one that went on the long ass rant) @the other anon telling us to "just get over it" like. gee i wish i could but i keeps shoving itself in my face that i cant. the point of talking about these things is that so people can understand where we who have a problem with it are coming from. a lot of people arent aware of how this is affecting others and hopefully we can educate them. if we just left it alone and "just let it go" then the behavior will never stop. its not a matter of critizing people but just letting them know "hey some of this stuff ur doing is not the best."
In the bottom of the thread I stated that my opinion above was only geared at those who do seemingly fetish real gay men because they can't find the difference between books and real life. It can cause harm, seeing as gay males have a come out to say that fangirls have often harassed them and caused them to be generalized because of 13yr Olds telling them to fuck. There is an amazing group of adults who properly analyze the storyline and genuinely read it for the connection and not always the smut. I'm 100% with people reading yaoi, but if it's to the point that you can't look in the comment section without some obsence naughty remark. Which is were I do tend to get annoyed, but I'm not the person to scream at them lmao. I do agree with points of your opinion, and I thank you for expressing it kindly!
Yes, it's just a though that needs to be known. That such behaviors do harm the gay community more negatively than they probably previously though. I've already gotten shit for my opinion, and it quite sad that people tend to shut those out who try to differentiate.
Yes I am aware of that. XD Don't worry I was just teasing you since you reminded me of a cetain anon.
Anyway on a serious note.
In terms of yaoi I've read hentai and yuri and thres always the issue of a small group of people fetishizing human romance. I know you didn't want to address it but the simularisties (such as the type of comments you speak of) are hard to ignore.
In my opinion I don't care as strongly about those specific comments, they are cringy but I care about the read more.
It bothers me when I'm reading a shounen ai that's fairly (not entirely but more than most others) innocent but then I go into the comment section and you'd think it was a twisted yaoi Harada doujin (it's not). Comments wanting the guy to get raped to "spice" (their words) it up, wanting him to be paired with a stranger twice his age over his same age best friend who he is actually in love with, and then the foursome crowd who can't handle seeing a group of friends without wanting them all to fuck. I wish they would stop. I just take comfort knowing the author would never make the comic like that. It's got its problems but it's not that messed up and hopefully it never will be.
Yeah, I definitely agree. I do enjoy shounen-ai and it's very disheartening to see amount of comments it tends to get which only follow the manga for some hope of sexual deviance.
Oh lmao, sorry if I got too defensive. I've gotten shit for my opinion so much and it's to the point it's impossible to remain being civil lmao. I do agree though, some form of fetishizing is going in in nearly every community, it's just I adressed yaoi seeing that it does tend to be more severe than yuri and hentai (they do get some nasty, rank ass comments though.) And the community on here does tend to learn towards yaoi on mangago
It's cool. :D Yeah but I also feel like it depends on the website. For example there aren't much yaoi websites that people know about, they exists but simply aren't as popular as mangago. Usually those websites have matured commentary. But since mangago is so popular and easy to find, the younger groups just need to search "yaoi manga" in google and they'll find this. Which I theorize is the reason mangago has typically a younger audience.
And if you search yuri manga the first search you get is "mangafox" and then mangago as the fourth option.... (Poor yuri manga so neglected) Hentai manga it's "nhentai" if anyone's wondering. They're harder to find (well yuri is) but yuri is usually mashed together in hentai websites for some reason so I guess that's why there's no apparent yuri site. ;-;
uh, aren't YOU the one who used to read shota? wtf? are you back tracking?
Just because someone used to do something doesn't mean they can't change.
EXACTLY, rape is not funny, I have never read a pedophile type yaoi but Ik they exist, sex is fine but when it gets to the point of sexualizing children and rape, it's too far.
What does that have to do with the question at hand, jm? The shota I read mostly involved adult characters who were simply drawn in a "shota" style, and I didn't read it because I fetishized illegal and unhealthy relationships... They were around the same age, and they weren't in relationships founded on sexual assault and the like >.>
At least use your main account to speak your mind...
Fetishing (?) any kind of people is not ok regardless of anyone's sexuality. It's the same as any straight guys fetishing women. The same as any straight women fetishing guys. It doesn't happen only to gay communities.
Some fans are just immature, and cannot differentiate between reality and imagination. This kind of people will always exist, regardless of whatever kind of genre they are fans of.
I understand that some stuff (eg. rapey stuff) are not for everyone. It's not exclusively happen in yaoi community. It happen in straight (?) community too. There's a reason why hentai exists. This stuff also common in shoujo mangas too, even in straight romance novels.
One user once mentioned that rape fantasy happens because of the fantasy of wanting someone to want you so much that they force themselves onto you is appealing, especially to someone who has low self esteem and probably has never been desired by someone they are attracted to. I can accept this kind of explanation, since i know it's possible.
My point is all of what you mentioned also happen other types of genres too, not exclusively occured in yaoi. Sorry for rambling. I find it difficult to accept that only gays feel they are victimised because of this issue.
Honey, read what everyone has said before bringing up a topic that has already been answered
Yaoi is basically gay porn made for woman and EVERY porn fetishize something, because porn is about that, about fetishize. Hentai, for example, fetishize woman/girl. As a woman of course I feel bad when woman are treated like object by guys in manga, so what do I do? I don't read and ignore, simple as that.
And please that's not all fujoshi who likes rape stuff so stop saying everyone is like that, all right?
I think because most hentai and porn websites have stricter registration (?). Most are paid websites, so it's unlikely that immature brats are watching/reading and commenting.
Tho I don't agree that fetish in yaoi is more severe. I think that it is equally severe in yuri and hentai
I know, you want to know people's opinion. So don't complain when i give mine
lmao what. you're definitely back tracking. and if you didnt know, if they're in hs, they're illegal, therefore you're reading shit with underaged kids fucking. a while ago you were just preaching how you don't like to read stuff like that... smh. also pleasestophot said they didn't like it when people comment stupid shit like how theres no fucking and they want to see it, and you agreed that it was stupid. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that you've probably been one of those people that ship people in non yaoi books and was disappointed there was no sex scene in a story.
and also, this IS my main account. just because i don't put shit in my reading list doesn't make me anymore fake. :)
True
I said most of them they were adults, not frickin' high schoolers. I /do/ ship people in "non yaoi" books, regardless of there genders or sexualities. Irrelevant much? And I don't read non-yaoi books for sex scenes. I read them for the frickin' plot. Not everyone's a horny teen.
Honestly, if i want a good laugh, i'll read those comments. Otherwise, i just ignore them. People are annoying, especially immature middle school kids. So, i suggest, instead of tainting your eyes and brain with whatever in the comment section, just skip them entirely. There's no need to waste your time and energy doing something so fruitless
Was I complaining? No, I was not
did i ever say it didnt happen in other communities?? i am fully aware it doesnt just happen to gays. im trying to say that its not okay in any context to situation whatsoever and many people are ignoring the issue and some have the mentality that things like that are okay because theyre gay. i agree with u wholeheartedly but dont take words out of my mouth saying that im saying this only happens to gay people exclusively bc it doesnt. i was just centralizing the point bc that is what the discussion was about. why cant i complain about an issue that affect me personally (a gay guy) without someone going "well it doesnt just happen to u" because ur just shutting out something that i wanted to point out that affects me. i understand people using some of these things as a coping mechanism but it doesnt mean that its healthy to have this image in ur head. and with the whole "immature" thing see one of my previous comments saying that we need to teach them because some of them are unaware that certain behaviors are not okay so that they at least know and can go on from there.
Yes, you are
I stated that I had already received a similar opinion and answered it. Complaining has a different tone and would be more negative, Google the word if needed.
people don't seem to have a problem with it since it's "not real"
im not about to lie; I am a "fujoshi" (I hate using that word for some reason)
I don't know what's wrong with me
For me , I'm apathetic towards the LGBT community; theyre just human in my eyes
I just have this problem with women, considering the fact that I, too have a vagina, (and I accept the fact that I do) but I hate women.
They really know how to ruin a relationship and always blame it on the boy. They are always so dramatic
That's why I prefer shonen ai n stuff
K bye
she's talking about the people who like manga with pedophilia and rape, where the uke is raped by seme but STILL he falls in love with the dude who is supposed to be facing charges for doing so
honestly I personally cannot take rape scenes in most yaoi manga seriously...sometimes the feelings just don't get to me or sometimes the characters aren't likable at all, and since i don't, i still read such manga to see development( most don't have that) but im definitely against it in real life
i just dont take it at heart when the characters feel empty to me, though the rape in hidoku shinaide got to me, i still kept reading it because i read comments saying it would get better later
I understand there are people with different fetishes and stuff, ive also seen comments on pedo yaoi manga (most are doujinshi as ive observed and it did feel weird while reading one)saying it is twisted or something along those lines staying neutral and also have seen a few saying they enjoyed it, and i also want you to consider the possibility that they might be the same as me, they dont connect to the characters and dont take it seriously and they are fine as long as it is in a manga, but they also are against such things in reality
everybody needs a getaway from this unfair life we all live and I also understand if you don't understand (sorry i dont know how to put it XD English ain't my first language, and the lack of punctuation because im using my phone)
if im not wrong, op is also trying to say that girls who label every other guy as gay,label them with another guy just because they touched each other, and the trend that has since died (i hope so) in yaoi world, "i reallllllyyy want a gay best friend because i looooovveeee gay people and i know that we will be bffs forever!!! because i read and love yaoi!!!!" are disgusting, and yes they are because you don't just want a guy because he's gay, they are humans, they can also murder you for all you care, because they are humans! and sadly a small percentage of these people still exist
think about how you would feel as a gay person when someone likes you only because of your sexuality and not for your personalty
People who still want a gay best friend simply because he's gay(don't try to hide it by saying you want to support lgbtq everyone can see through that shit now)
please stop this bullshit and delete your system32 folder
Idk if im right about what youre trying to say so ive also added in my thoughts(￣∇￣")
Yeah I get ya. I'm also quite apathetic and I rarely connect with the fictional characters in books, unless the book is good nor do I put myself in a characters shoes. To me sometimes manga is just weird looking humans. (because they're not anatomically correct sometimes especially shota or Loli don't get me started XD) Though rape does get to me sometimes.