thought I was gonna love it. Hated it.
Was the opposite for me!
I envy you you! cause i'd rather love it than hate it, but I can't. whyyyyy (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
It wasn't like it was top quality, (Say.. Let Dai) but I knew it wouldn't be in the first place so I guess I just let the humor get to me.
Also, I noticed that you rated Spicy & Sugary one star. The art style and description intrigued me, so I've been thinking of reading it. Was it really that bad?
I think I made a mistake when rating it ahahahah I didn't hate it, I'm gonna edit and give it 3 stars. I love the art, I just thought it had too much dialogue, but I enjoyed the story. (and I didn't know it was a side story/sequel to other story). But I do recommend it!
because I'm from Brasil, and this is licensed in the USA, which means I can't buy this when I want (and if I buy it online, my dearest country will make me pay taxes: 60% of the value of the product). So I think that it must have a way for me to read, I really get the licensed thing and shit, but it's not licensed in my country, so it's sad that I may never read the end of this story. By the way, Brasil editors never work with yaoi, the only manga that it was ALMOST yaoi and was translated here was Gravitation. So congrats for the americans who can buy this freely. And people from outside of the USA: I get your pain =/
Exactly. I'm glad someone else understands. Here in Portugal they never release yaoi or shounen ai either. They've only released a couple of manga and they're all shounen or really popular shit. I hope some kind soul makes summaries (though I'll understand if nobody does). For now I'll keep buying the magazines and volumes in Japanese whenever I can.
Maria, I just read a comment here saying that this manga may be released in digital form for 6$, which can be paid with paypal. so we can have a little bit of hope! This was we can at least finish reading this manga, cause I don't think I can sleep peacefully without knowing the end of this manga! (⊙…⊙ )
correction: *this way we can at least
... how people can be disgusted by the taste of their own cum in a kiss. Really? Isn't sex about exchanging fluids among other things? I am an adult woman who had relationships, who already made/received oral sex, and NEVER the other part refused to kiss because of "their own taste". Neither men nor women.
In the moment you dont care but after some people kinda think....so this is what i taste like....?ok.well,alright.
*life continues*
I think guys are more likely to refuse a kiss after oral.(my opinion)
well, everyone isn't Lady P0ny?...(￣∇￣")
When I think exchange I don't think about getting compensated with my own cream. Some people just have preferences. There's no right or wrong way to have sex until laws get involved really.
When I say "exchange fluids among other things" I mean: you sweat, you lick, you get licked, you do oral, you receive oral, you give love, you receive love (depending on the case). It's not like he took the semen and made the other drink. He swallowed it and kissed the person he loves. Isn't this normal? I know there isn't right or wrong, and I have no idea if you guys have experience or how old you are... But Sex isn't the cleanest thing in the world... For me it's a natural thing to kiss the person I'm having sex with, and if it tastes likes body fluids, isn't this normal? natural?
yeah we get it you've had sex a lot, but everyone has their own preferences, I also don't think it's gross and I find it natural and normal (I even kind of like the way I taste lol) but long story short people have grown up in different places with different cultures and different parents in a different environment and a lot of the time their logic does not coincide with yours or with other people's. That's just how it works. It's not something you can influence. If we all agreed on everything and thought of the same things as normal and natural we wouldn't have elections, or opinions, really.
maybe because he's virgin and it's his first time doing it, ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
I agree! I mean the person doesn't have any problems letting other person swallow or lick but nonono don't touch my lips with it-and he will most likely go down on him ....so I don't see the problem-I mean if you were down on Me and I love you -I would love you to kiss me <3
thank you for getting my point!! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I'm on the other side of this fence. If my partner gives me oral, we're done kissing. I dislike the taste of mine or anyone else's. Some people like it, but not everyone. I am one of those that dislikes it, so I can understand the character's reaction. Yuuuuck!
the sports department people are really rude. And his father is the WORST for making his child work so much at home, almost not having time to study, and then saying HELP MORE? wtf? I wanted to slap his face.
I'm tired of getting happy over new releases just to realize that is ANOTHER extra and the story is still stuck （￣へ￣）
chapter 2 was painful and hard, but I think the worst already happened and from here on it will be softer (▰˘◡˘▰)
but man i would kick his .... for what that boy did.
I with u on that! #－.－)
same..i was soo pissed...
me too! I thought it was only heartwarming stuff and the I saw that, I was like WHYYYYYYYY???? (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
that Itakura already had relationships with men. I swear I thought he was the "I THOUGH I WAS STRAIGHT SO I TRIED GOING OUT WITH WOMEN BUT SOMETHING WAS OFF" type ahahaha but I'm glad I was surprised, I like surprises too hihi
not because of the threesome, in this case everybody said ok so I'm fine with it, but I think that Hiroi should step out of this relationship, cause Take isn't happy at all! He is so much more in love with Mine than Hiroi, and Mine also loves him but doesn't seem to accept this (that's how I see it). If Hiroi loves Take as a friend, he should know when to stop being selfish and help those two get together without him. I think that at some point of the story, Hiroi showed that he doesn't love Mine, he just wants to test if again Take will be chosen over him. It hurts so much to see Take suffering in silence. I love Take.
I share your point of view ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
I get your point, but Hiroi do love Mine. At the begining it wasn't but he slowly fell in love, it was demonstrat by the author many time from his action... To me that is...
It's true that Take-chan is attracted to Mine-chan, but I don't see him loving Mine-chan more than Hiroi. If Hiroi were to leave, Mine-chan would be too heartbroken, and I think he'd chase after him. As a matter of fact, Take-chan seems to treat Mine-chan like crap most of the time. What part of that is love? He even refuses to be nice to him, because he knows it would make Mine-chan happier, and I don't think he could handle that.
Hum if you look at the reply from "NocturalGreyhound" three topics below, you'll get a better explanation XD
hmmmm you have a point!
About Take treating Mine bad, I see as he loves him but he is afraid of Hiroi noticing that, so he treats him coldly so Hiroi AND Mine won't notice his feelings. Just like kids who picks on the people they like cause they are afraid of showing their real feelings. But what you said about Hiroi leaving and Mine being heartbroken makes a lot of sense (I think my love for Take blinded me on this one ahah) and that is good, cause it makes me think even more about the whole story ahahah But about Hiroi loving him, I just can't see it in the story, what I see is that Hiroi is a selfish possessive person, and Mine is just like a toy (or maybe is because he is a sadist so I'm still thinking about it hehe). Anyway, thanks for the reply, it made me see some stuff from other view!
it really is a good explanation ahahah thank you!
high five! (●'◡'●)ﾉ
(but about Take kissing him only cause it feels good I totally disagree, I think he couldn't contain himself anymore, he was already crazy about Mine)
yeees!I'm agree....I Totally love Take u.u..don't want to see him suffer ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
WE HAVE THE SAME OPINION... AGAIN!!! ╮(￣▽￣)╭
ahhahaha we are kindred spirits! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
I 100% agree. I really want Take and Mine to be together (╯°Д °)╯╧╧!
true.
Sorry, Mine doesn't love Take that way. It's been obvious from the start. The author has also confirmed this. The author has made it obvious that Mine likes Take more only for his body and the sex. Take also loves Mine because Mine loves Hiroi more and only sees Take as a friend. If Mine were to love him more, Take would probably lose interest and stop liking him. Take was also shown to like the fact that when Hiroi and MIne are in their 'own lovey dovey world' and ignores him. I really don't understand when people say Take is sad or Mine loves Take but doesn't admit it. Were we reading the same manga? The one that regularly gets sad more is Hiroi actually, especially when he finally realise why he is feeling that way(because he really likes Mine). Mine is happy being loved by Hiroi. Take is happy when he has both of them together, never once saying how much he wanted Mine alone or was sad that Mine loves Hiroi?? So I don't get this 'poor Take' people keep talking about.
It's good and all but if they got together. The only thing that would hold them together is the sex? Throughout the manga they didn't have a single proper conversation unless it's about Hiroi? Is this how people think relationships are built on?
You can interpret if you want that Take is being cold on purpose so that Hiroi won't think that Take loves Mine or anything but there is nothing from the manga that confirms this. It's actually just Take's natural reaction to Mine. Because he was like this even BEFORE he started liking him. Just that he BECAME worse when he started like Mine. Which is really not a good sign for a r/s between them. Take is emotionally stunted because he has always preferred 'saving energy' instead of dealing with what he likes and doesn't like. Mine does not understand Take and doesn't try to understand him. The only understanding they have is their love for Hiroi. This really doesn't seem like a good basis for a r/s and I doubt it would change since neither are willing to.
Especially since Mine is too in love with Hiroi to try to understand more about Take and Take doesn't care if he's understood or not and reacts in a very violent way in things he doesn't understand. It's scary to even think of a relationship between them.
Actually it was quite obvious that Hiroi was starting to love Mine. He was never jealous in any of his other relationship even when his gf tells him they start to like Take more. When seeing Take and Mine kissing during sex, he has flashbacks to when his girlfriend said 'you don't share the people you like' which he didn't understand at the time but FINALLY understood when it came to Mine. Making it quite obvious that he really cares and likes Mine. Because he didn't understand the concept of what his previous gf said to him but now he does because he really likes Mine. It is not a matter of possessiveness or just how he treats a toy.
And Hiroi is a selfish possessive person??? The start was that Mine shared all his favourite things with Take. ALL. I'm sorry if he was a selfish possessive person. First off, would he share everything he liked with Take? Second, why would he tell Take it's ok to have sex with Mine if he isn't there? Is that how a selfish possessive person acts? He also always tries to make Mine understand the type of person Take is. And this is when he was already starting to feel jealous? I truly see Hiroi as very selfless. He could have easily said yeah, he's horrible to turn Mine away from Take, it wouldn't take much because Mine always wants to be alone with Hiroi anyway. The only time he can be seen as even a little bit of selfish is when he has sex and directs Mine and Take but Mine likes it when he's being praised by Hiroi? And Hiroi even let Take have sex with Mine first if he wanted to? I think your bias for Take really blinded you to everything else. I'm wondering if we read the same manga.
I truly see the most sad one as Hiroi because he is the one who is the most insecure about his r/s with the both of them. Eventhough it's clear that Mine loves him and doesn't love Take. Just that Take is better at sex, that's all. And he's also afraid Mine would take Take away eventhough Take always said to himself that if Mine were to love him more, he wouldn't feel the same about Mine anymore.
I don't see Take as sad because he never once showed it. Not even in thoughts or facial expression or behaviour. He is truly happy to have the both of them and that's enough for him. His reasoning: If Hiroi is happy=he is happy. If Hiroi were to go, he would feel uncomfortable and unhappy. Even in the end, he was happy to have both of them there?
I don't think it's fair to say that Hiroi's love isn't real yet say that Take's love is real. Because Take's love iS JUST because Mine loves Hiroi more and ONLY treats and sees Take as a friend. EVEN the authors said so. That's why he repeats that if Mine were to fall in love with him more, he would lose interest. Yet Hiroi's love is fake?
That was a nice observation, thanks a lot for your reply! Even tho I may not agree with you (I would have to read again cause it's been mangas ago ahahaa), but I can see that you really thought everything about the story and took your time to write this reply, and that makes me glad! Next time I read this manga (it gave me a heartache), I will re-read your reply. Thank you! (●'◡'●)ﾉ
Yeah it must have given you a heartache to see Mine get beaten up by someone who's really in love with him.
this author always makes me cry my eyes out.